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When a unit with random movement has the skirmisher rule are you able to change their direction during that units move?

So for example if I roll 6 total on my 3d6 random move with skirmishers, can they move forward 2 inches, stop, then start moving 4 inches to the left/right?

If a tomb kings model with the Dry of Dust special rule gets hit with a flaming attack that does Multiple Wounds, do you roll a D6 for Dry as Dust for each individual wound taken?

So for example, a Chaos Lord with the Mark of Tzeentch gets flaming attacks. He hits a Tomb King using the Ogre Blade and rolls a 6 for multiple wounds. Does the Chaos Lord player then get to roll 6D6, and every 4+ is one additional wound?

“Until your next Start of Turn sub-phase, the target enemy unit suffers a -2 modifier to its Initiative characteristic (to a minimum of 1), a -2 modifier to its Leadership characteristic (to a minimum of 2) and cannot use their General's Inspiring Presence special rule. This spell may target an enemy unit engaged in combat.”

If you cast this spell on the enemy General itself, or a unit that the enemy General has joined, does this spell effectively turn off the enemy General’s Inspiring Presence? Since the target unit “cannot use their General’s Inspiring Presence special rule” and the General is the unit/part of the unit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerOldWorld/s/KgXQTcyxLO

I made the above post yesterday and half the people who replied disagreed on how the rules work. Most counter arguments were simply “that’s dumb” or “that’s too complicated,” not pointing to any actual rules as written that refute my interpretation. To be clear, I don’t actually like this interpretation, but I believe it is correct. It actually nerfs my own play style and I haven’t played a game using this interpretation, but ignoring the rules for vision arcs makes me feel like I’m cheating. I will explain my reasoning, and I want to know if you guys think GW should make an FAQ on this subject to clarify the rules, since so many disagree on the interpretation.

You can check the previous post to view the discussion, but basically all I’m saying is that an individual non-skirmisher model that wants to shoot a target can not do so if the target is not within the individual model’s vision arc, even if that model is part of a bigger unit with other models that do have the target in their vision arcs. This would mostly apply to long, single rank units of infantry shooting at a single model, such as a monster, at a very short range (see the diagram I made in the previous post).

After you determine a unit can see the target unit it wishes to shoot, you must check line of sight for each individual model.

“In order to shoot at something, a model must be able to draw a line of sight to it. Often, not every model in a unit will be able to draw a line of sight to the target. Therefore, when shooting with a unit you must determine line of sight for each and every model in the front rank… To check a line of sight between models, stoop down to look from the model's point of view…”

“If a straight, uninterrupted line can be drawn from within the model's vision arc to any part of the other model, there is a line of sight.”

Therefore, a target not in a model’s vision arc = no line of sight for that model = that model cannot shoot at that target. This seems like common sense but apparently it’s not.

By the way, I think the rules also state that cover only applies on an individual model basis and not necessarily to the entire unit.

“Line of sight may be partly obscured by terrain features or by other models. In such cases, the other model or unit is said to be 'in cover'. To check if a model or unit is in cover, stoop down to look from the first model's point of view… Models shooting at a target in partial cover suffer a -1 To Hit modifier… Models shooting at a target in full cover suffer a -2 To Hit modifier.”

So if a single model in a larger unit wants to shoot at a target that is partially obscured from that singular model only, it takes a -1/-2. If the rest of the models in the unit have full view of the target, those models suffer no penalty for cover.

I know these interpretations seem over complicated, but I genuinely think this is how it is intended to be played. A lot of people disagree which is why I want to know if anyone else thinks this needs an FAQ. I personally think the rules need clarification if this wasn’t intended. Thanks!

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I’ve never used it and am a bit confused on how this spell works.

“If the target friendly unit is not fleeing and has not already moved during this Movement phase, you may immediately remove it from the battlefield and replace it anywhere completely within 12" of its original location.”

Where is “its original location” measured from? The center of the unit, the edges of one of its ranks/files?

And what about skirmishers? Does each skirmisher move up to 12” individually? Or do you measure 12” from any individual model and move the rest of the models to be within that range? Can the skirmishers change formation when they move with the spell?

One more thing. Travel Mystical Pathway states “The target friendly unit cannot move again during this Movement phase.” How does this interact with Arcane Urgency, which states “If the target friendly unit is not fleeing and has already moved during this Movement phase, it may immediately move again.” If I cast Travel Mystical Pathway first, does casting Arcane Urgency second allow the unit to move again?

Thanks.