u/a-Supernova

Can someone please explain this problem I have? To clarify, the problem with the options of different reactions for the Ai is sometimes just blatantly a trope but it's tolerable, the problem is when it actually has a good response it changes the pronouns. I already mentioned on earlier posts that I want the pronouns to be "he/him (or a pronoun corresponded to the character's gender)" instead of "you" because then it forces the feeling of being IN the situation rather than watching it and the problem I have is basically the thing's right hand man. Basically, when it does have good grammar and story telling in the response or actually carries out the actions you wanted the Ai to do it always changes from "he/him" to "you" and I hate that.

Let's say a person went into an alley in a hurry to open a portal, ALL the previous responses clearly have "he/him" but when it gets to the climax the Ai goes "*chases you down*" instead of "*The man rounded the corner and ran towards him (or “ran towards the owl” usually it uses these small referrals to make it more refreshing) to stop him from summoning the gateway.*" and that's really frustrating because then you have to edit it and at that point a person can scrap the Ai and make up the story on their own.

How do you guys make your characters, not like the way I referred in an earlier post like "name, appearance, clothing (etc)" but what do you make your characters from? And how to have the determination and motivation?

I have a problem where I tried making my own, I've made a lot of characters over the span of a year or two, like somewhere 200-300 evident in my notes app because that app counts the letters. At first I always relied on Ai, specifically gemini, and no it's not the "hey gemini create a random character," I use it to piece the details together. As in I get the ideas and gemini fits them together, the problem is that they over exaggerate the vocabulary (example: "she possesses an hourglass figure" instead of "her physique consists of a slim and subtle curved figure" — this is because I hate exaggerating physiques like how would they fight if their hips are wider than a two-door doorframe), take details from previous chats (for example let's say the previous chat was about a vampire in a royal family called "Nexus" and when I make an entirely different character they say "this anthropomorphic animal from the Nexus family… (etc)" even though I never mentioned a nexus family in that new chat to begin with), and they always tend to generate images or half-ass/create their own characters even after explicit instructions.

I've made about two characters with only using my own skills, the only time when I need to use Ai is to fix grammar, rephrase certain areas and make the vocabulary more compact to let the definition of the words do the work instead of the sentences themselves. The problem in my side is that I have a difficult time in making original characters because it always ends up being to similar to another character.

Can the developers for the sake of my and other's sanity PLEASE exclude the tropes!? Literally, what is it with "you aren't a fighter. You're a survivor" like it cringes the hell out of me and that makes it less fun to try and make a story! Not only that but ESPECIALLY on my Jason Todd chat bot, it always starts with them meeting in some alley even though I didn't even provide any alley interaction examples, and why do they bullshit their way through with the context like it's seriously frustrating! And the Ai kept the spotlight on him 24/7, I literally made a character where their family is from old money, like the type of money where their names are in museums, and it keeps making it where Jason is in the throne not the persona's parents, thrones are supposed to be for monarchs or for those of regal status not someone like Jason because he wouldn't waste his time on sitting in a throne! And what is it with the Ai changing the history of something like my persona has a scar but they said it's from self-harm like wtf. I'm genuinely tired of this and for the love of God fix the damn problem where they change the character like let's say a character has fur but the narration goes "*lingers on their smoother ivory white skin*" like SERIOUSLY if anything the Ai is focusing on it's OWN fantasies!

Please tell me the next update is within the month! I don't know for how long I can handle these tropes in every chat anymore, it feels like we're back in 2020😭

Like seriously, how the actual FLIP does my character always do the most stupidest things, not like the "jump of bridge" thing but like the prompts generated for them is absolute dog water! My character is supposed to have selective mutism, and based off of their backstory they basically lived under a rock, and when they got out of boot camp early because his parents transferred the whatever to someone else he mutters the person's name! Like the drill instructors were dragging him to the gate and he was like I don't know the exact prompt but he had NO way of knowing because he was outside without his phone! And what is it with the seperate asterisk actions like "-jumps up -vaults over-" (the "-" is supposed to represent the asterisks) like PLEASE it's literally cringing the hell out of me! And please make it where they stop disregarding grammar and character information, I GENUINELY can't take it anymore! 💀😭 And can someone please explain why the Ai is obsessed with the alley intro like each new chat with my Jason Todd character it's always like "-leans against brick- -adjusts shirt-" like why THAT, and why is it always "adjusts (accessory)" it's literally a toddler taking interest in their dad's car keys before losing interest and with that happening all over again🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪🫪

I don't know if I covered this on previous posts but if I did it's probably partially. So I'm assuming in the upcoming update the persona thing would be improved and I have a suggestion about it I've been dying to talk about.

What it's about is solving the problem of sacrificing details to make it sound right. But what if you, referring to the developers, can make seperate sections dedicated to specific parts of the persona to have a fair amount info for each and individual aspect. Like it could be set as Name, Appearance, Attire, Skill/abilities, Lore any other you see as fit for an extra section. This not only helps reduce or even prevents the Ai from making stuff up, especially if the user's persona is heavily set in warframe's lore or in any complicated lore, but it also can make users have more opportunities to make more creative backstories. It gives them the best chance at fully describing the character's appearance and attire seperately, giving them a chance at making their already exotic characters even more unique.

This will with out a doubt help talkie surpass their competition by implementing mechanics users searched in Ai chat apps since forever.

What do you guys do when interacting with characters, like personally for me it's usually accompanied with music just to boost the mood. Not THAT mood, but like if it's your regular chaotic day like visiting the I.M.P. (Immediate Murder Professionals) then I'd listen to music that relates to the energy.

And how do you guys utilize the character description? What I do is fully use every letter I can, although I do admit I use Ai to generate descriptions but it's very effective, gemini was my original character description generator but they kept disregarding instructions like "stop using the twilight vocabulary" or "reduce the amount of letters" but does the exact opposite and I switched to Claude (I think that's how you spell it). What I do is keep everything as like general as possible, so instead of referring to a furry as cute I'd just describe the appearance, like thick fur, or the type of snout and legs. In fact, specifically on my Jason Todd character I even made sure that the armor had the same function it had in the game, aka the electrochromatic (I tried to spell it) detail where the armor went from blue to red. But even when I mentioned he didn't have any facial hair or scars other than the J scar the Ai just likes to get turned on by exaggerating everything like "A big THICK beard and a clean SHAVEN head"