u/akiryra

Ukrainian with ~10% Ingushetian according to Vahaduo using modeling with G25 coordinates. Do you think this is authentic ancestry, or a misread for another populace?

Some context, I'm from the Carpathians in Ukraine on the border with Poland. I can trace my family to Galicia until at least the 1870s. I'm huge into genealogy so I actually noticed the Ingushetian a super long time ago when I first uploaded my files to GEDmatch. My GEDmatch identified the Ingushetian. Then when IllustrativeDNA came out, they identified it as well. I got into Vahaduo / G25 about a year ago after purchasing my coordinates from Davidski, and my modeling also identifies the Ingushetian.

My only other "abnormalities" are ~1% Broadly East Asian according to 23andMe, but obviously that is Siberian or Tatar, and 1.5% Northern West Asian. There is other tinier Caucasian populations as well in my G25 coordinates like ~2% Akhvakh and ~2% Georgian. Everything is still there in my Ancients. I also had a 2-3 genetic groups linking myself to Moldova pre-23andMe update. I am unsure if Moldovans have a greater influx of DNA coming in from the steppe.

I know this is a huge one: Do I have any matches in the area on any DNA websites? I do, but it's impossible to know if they're Ukrainian or not. It may also be so distant that it wouldn't show up via matches. A lot of Ukrainians have also settled / lived in the Caucasus throughout history. Many of my matches are Armenian in that area, some from the Russian / Cossack parts, and some Chechenia. So little people in rural Eastern Europe take these types of tests so it can be tricky.

I brushed off the Ingushetian for awhile because it's a tiny amount, but now I'm super interested. If it is a misread, what could it be a misread for? Is it just common admixture for Ukrainians to have?

Sorry for any bad English.

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u/akiryra — 1 day ago

Ukrainian with ~10% Ingushetian according to Vahaduo using modeling with G25 coordinates. Do you think this is authentic ancestry, or a misread for another populace? I also have a side question about genetic groups relating to 23andMe's update.

Some context, I'm from the Carpathians in Ukraine on the border with Poland. I can trace my family to Galicia until at least the 1870s. I'm huge into genealogy so I actually noticed the Ingushetian a super long time ago when I first uploaded my files to GEDmatch. My GEDmatch identified the Ingushetian. Then when IllustrativeDNA came out, they identified it as well. I got into Vahaduo / G25 about a year ago after purchasing my coordinates from Davidski, and my modeling also identifies the Ingushetian.

My only other "abnormalities" are ~1% Broadly East Asian according to 23andMe, but obviously that is Siberian or Tatar, and 1.5% Northern West Asian. There is other tinier Caucasian populations as well in my G25 coordinates like ~2% Akhvakh and ~2% Georgian. Everything is still there in my Ancients.

I know this is a huge one: Do I have any matches in the area on any DNA websites? I do, but it's impossible to know if they're Ukrainian or not. It may also be so distant that it wouldn't show up via matches. A lot of Ukrainians have also settled / lived in the Caucasus throughout history. Many of my matches are Armenian in that area, some from the Russian / Cossack parts, and some Chechenia. So little people in rural Eastern Europe take these types of tests so it can be tricky.

I brushed off the Ingushetian for awhile because it's a tiny amount, but now I'm super interested. If it is a misread, what could it be a misread for? Is it just common admixture for Ukrainians to have?

Side question about 23andMe: I had 2 genetic groups in Moldova, and the update removed them. Do you think they're genuine, or a fixed mistake? I have matches within the genetic groups. It shocked me how many matches were in this tiny area (Lower Raut) lol.

Sorry for any bad English.

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u/akiryra — 2 days ago

Ukrainian with ~10% Ingushetian. Authentic?

Some context, I'm from the Carpathians in Ukraine on the border with Poland. I can trace my family to Galicia until at least the 1870s. I'm huge into genealogy so I actually noticed the Ingushetian a super long time ago when I first uploaded my files to GEDmatch. My GEDmatch identified the Ingushetian. Then when IllustrativeDNA came out, they identified it as well. I got into Vahaduo / G25 about a year ago after purchasing my coordinates from Davidski, and my modeling also identifies the Ingushetian.

My only other "abnormalities" are ~1% Broadly East Asian according to 23andMe, but obviously that is Siberian or Tatar, and 1.5% Northern West Asian. There is other tinier Caucasian populations as well in my G25 coordinates like ~2% Akhvakh and ~2% Georgian. Everything is still there in my Ancients.

I know this is a huge one: Do I have any matches in the area on any DNA websites? I do, but it's impossible to know if they're Ukrainian or not. It may also be so distant that it wouldn't show up via matches. A lot of Ukrainians have also settled / lived in the Caucasus throughout history. Many of my matches are Armenian in that area, some from the Russian / Cossack parts, and some Chechenia. So little people in rural Eastern Europe take these types of tests so it can be tricky.

I brushed off the Ingushetian for awhile because it's a tiny amount, but now I'm super interested. If it is a misread, what could it be a misread for? Is it just common admixture for Ukrainians to have?

Sorry for any bad English.

reddit.com
u/akiryra — 2 days ago

Ukrainian with ~10% Ingushetian according to Vahaduo using modeling with G25 coordinates. Do you think this is authentic ancestry, or a misread for another populace?

Some context, I'm from the Carpathians in Ukraine on the border with Poland. I can trace my family to Galicia until at least the 1870s. I'm huge into genealogy so I actually noticed the Ingushetian a super long time ago when I first uploaded my files to GEDmatch. My GEDmatch identified the Ingushetian. Then when IllustrativeDNA came out, they identified it as well. I got into Vahaduo / G25 about a year ago after purchasing my coordinates from Davidski, and my modeling also identifies the Ingushetian.

My only other "abnormalities" are ~1% Broadly East Asian according to 23andMe, but obviously that is Siberian or Tatar, and 1.5% Northern West Asian. There is other tinier Caucasian populations as well in my G25 coordinates like ~2% Akhvakh and ~2% Georgian. Everything is still there in my Ancients.

I know this is a huge one: Do I have any matches in the area on any DNA websites? I do, but it's impossible to know if they're Ukrainian or not. It may also be so distant that it wouldn't show up via matches. A lot of Ukrainians have also settled / lived in the Caucasus throughout history. Many of my matches are Armenian in that area, some from the Russian / Cossack parts, and some Chechenia. So little people in rural Eastern Europe take these types of tests so it can be tricky.

I brushed off the Ingushetian for awhile because it's a tiny amount, but now I'm super interested. If it is a misread, what could it be a misread for? Is it just common admixture for Ukrainians to have?

Sorry for any bad English.

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u/akiryra — 2 days ago