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21% seems like a lot, and I don’t have a white grandparent or any European family .

This is from a twitter user and addresses an interesting point about mixed peoples genetic relation to europe.

It's a pretty common and simple concept that many people here already understand. If you mix two people of more or less related ethnicities it affects how genetically close they are to said ethnicity. In the case here when taking european ethnicities, they are most closely related to west asians and very european shifted central asians, followed by north africans. They are further from noticeably mixed(as in 20%+ east eurasian including ancient ancestral south indian and sub saharan african admixture) part west eurasian ethnicities and groups such as south asians, horn africans, central asians, and most modern latinos(who are mixes of european, sub saharan african, and indigenous amerindian). Europeans are very far from east eurasians such as east and southeast asians, aboriginal and papuan people, polynesians, and amerindians, and the farthest from sub saharan africans.

Therefore if someone is a mix between west asians or north africans for example, they will plot noticeably close to european ethnicities on a pca. Ashkenazi jews and north caucasian(as in the caucasus mountains, not scandinavian people, scandinavians are very much europeans) ethnicities are great examples of this, both are mixes of west asian and european groups and are still quite close with european ethnicities on a pca. The image here uses a moern example of a spaniard for european and syrian for west asian, and they also plot among the border area of the southern italian and greek mediteranean island areas.

On the other hand as illustrated in the image above, european and say amerindian or mulato/lightskin(sub saharan african and european) mixed people will be noticeably more distant from europeans genetically. Even a small amount of admixture from these groups can shift someone noticeably away from europe genetically due to how distant these people are from europe.

Lastly I don't want to turn this into a purity debate or anything of the sorts, especially since phenotype does not equal genotype, although there is a strong correlation. This is often why you will see many europeans mixed with west asian or north african ethnicities just "appear european" or white, but that tends not to hold up for someone mixed with east eurasian or sub saharan african ethnicities. For example looking at many celebrities, mainly european mother west asia or north african father, like Bella Hadid, or even Zayn Malik(european and part south asian) nearly all of them are "white/european appearing" especially if their non european parent is as well. On the other hand the average mexican is somewhere around 40% european and 60% amerindian, but no one would say that the average mexican looks european, you'd be hard pressed to even find northern mexicans with higher european admixture, where people would say that.

These results were very surprising for me!

Firstly, I don't know who my biological paternal grandfather is. My mother also doesn't know, and my grandma refuses to talk about him. I am guessing that those 12% Italy come mostly from him, and mostly of those 11% Western Europe too. My maternal grandma has very strong indigenous traits, but my mother and her sisters of the same father all look much paler and are the tallest of the family.

Also, I was expecting more Iberia than only 47%. Since I didn't know those 25% of my paternal grandfather, I had absolutely no clue of what ancestry he could be, but I definitely was not expecting Italy and (probably mostly) Germany.

And I was also very surprised to see that most of my indigenous ancestry was Andean! But as I thought a bit more about this, I realized it makes a lot of sense, since my whole family is from the Missões region, in the border with Northern Argentina, which has stronger Quechua influence. I am curious about the Amazonian part though, since it only refers to "Amazonia" and not exact peoples.

I wasn't expecting the African ancestry to be so low, less than 3% Mandé. My paternal grandfather had the darkest skin in the family and identified as Black, but I guess I just didn't get those genes from him.

A bit of Sefaradim Jewish was expected, but not a whole 5%. Basque was unexpected. Fennoscandia was a bit of a surprise as well. Sardinia was as unexpected as the whole Italy part. Maghreb was very surprising, but understandable, after all.

My dad's second generation British Pakistani. His parents are from Azad Kashmir, but I don't know for sure if they're only Kashmiri. My mum's from Warsaw, Poland originally and she's 100% Polish as far as she knows.

I'm not super close to either culture really. In terms of how I look, people say I don't look Pakistani, and I also don't really look Polish according to Polish people. I suppose I'm my own thing 🤷‍♀️

The results are basically what I would have expected. I just don't know where the Anatolian came from.

I’m kinda surprised to see that much Bosnian,Croatian etc bc all of his ancestors are from Greece and Turkey. 0% Greek with just 0,2% Macedonian made feel thinking ab accuracy since he is half Balkan Turk from Greece (Macedonia and Thrace regions) what do you think ab this situation?

These are my results for reference my dad is from Puerto Rico (born and raised) and my mom is from Mexico (born and raised).

I thought they were pretty interesting wasn’t expecting ancestry to be as broad.

Edit*** forgot to mention I was born and raised in California

Growing up, my family always said I was “Indian”-like, from India. Never made any sense as no one else in my family claimed to be so. So I decided to put the hearsay to rest. 0% Indian, but some other cool stuff definitely showed up!

Pic of my Hair Texture With Gel in my Hair 💈

Records show most of my family came from Switzerland, Slovakia, Italy and Greece in the late 19th century early 20th. Also we know who came based on word of mouth and don’t really need records. Also traced an ancestor who came to the US in the late 1600s who was Irish (no Irish dna). My Swiss side married in with some old stock Americans but looks like a small chunk of me.

I hope everyone who owns an E-M81, E-V65, or U6 will participate. I want to find my relatives.

I’m wondering where exactly the Swiss southwestern German /Western Austrian history, and the Dutch and northern German History in America takes place. People talk about the general German migration, but where did these distinct groups go, and what did they do in America? My Paternal Grandmother was born in 1944 so it would have been some years ago. Either way, These results are Super Cool!

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