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The simple fact that shes played more and any seasoned old BW mains know that there was an extended period of time Mantis was hated and always told to switch so.. present day, it would've been damage boosted palooza

The devs cooked in terms of the dont let her cook agenda

Hey fellow Adam's.

As the title suggests..

I played on console, 500+ hrs in Black Widow, peaked C1 3 times.. top10 BW on console 3+ times..

Obviously everyone has their opinions but to make this simple.. 1 of the key reasons I loved old BW was she required you to have your brain on 100% of the time.

Now? You can have your brain off and shoot when before that didnt bring value. Now it does..

Well, Adam is similar to old BW in terms of brainpower. Heck, he was my go-to before he could fly. He was already my go-to when BW was banned or the occasions I didnt feel like playing chess in my mind for a whole match, Adam was still chess but not to that degree.

Now.. BW can be a braindead shooter and I hate it so much along with other things.

Not here to vent tho. Couldnt expressed myself better but its hot where I live and I just dont feel like typing perfect communication right now.

Ex BW main just saying hey, you got a new main here!

Title really sums it up. I wont allow the world to forget the crime they committed by putting their own shortcomings on a hero that was amazing to play in a hero shooter

Some streamers even acknowledges what is impressive about the player playing Black Widow.. sadly no one else can do what those clips show

And yes. Some of those clips were early in the game when BW could 1 shot more of the cast wtih a dmg boost and basically, you also get to see thw truth behind the masses when they owned by a Black Widow and that is the thing that I hate with this community.. their own shortcomings and frustration going against a skilled human being on a "bad" hero just does something to their soul because they couldnt or wouldnt do it themselves and they dont honestly admit it.. they just project their feelings of their own performance and skill with BW, on BW

Ultimately... causing her rework

Sorry but I will never point the negative side of it out because the same people who didnt and couldnt do what XLEK was showing are the same people who really love the rework [most] and they come here talking trash about old BW.

No one who can do good with BW talks trash about her. Literally... why would you when you can dominate with her?

I digress. Thank you XLEK for documentinf the real on BW & Thank you widowsbaby for commenting to dont go back and forth with em.

I'll do my best to do that less widowsbaby but I will never stop mentioning how the trash BW players are the ones who got her changed because they were trash AND couldnt handle seeing great BW clips or going against a great BW because it makes them think of how much they themselves "cant" do it

Maybe the match inspired them to give ir a try and then they spend 10 mins in the range or in a match trying to replicate it but faiking and gives up and calls her trash again.. I digress again

Check out that video!

That video wasnt a good representation of myself or anyone. I wasnt speaking for anyone but myself so people shouldnt wrap any other Widow main here because these were my actions, not theirs.

After knowing she was getting reworked, seeing it, the opinions the BS, the desire to keep what I really grew to appreciate about the "worst hero" and then my 1st ranked match felt like the lid exploded

I raged and posted my rage. Sorry for the foul words. Doesnt excuse the behavior but I am fed up with the BS rhetoric but as many have said.. at the end of the day, nothing I could do about them choosing to do what they do or feel how they feel.

So, foolish of me to go react that way. Have been letting it get to me but no more! Sorry yall 😅

To all the Widow mains.. the actual ones.. I love yall. Simply off of experiencing the grind that brings us together.

The hate this disgusting community gives, the pressures of your own self to want to oerform, the aiming fundamentals you discover that exists when grinding her, the management of your metet, the tech we learned, positioning IQ, awareness, tracking ults, doing crazy things like running into an invis ult to pop urs then headshot her...

No matter where you were in terms of skill.. anyone who actually mained Widow from either S0 - S 8.5, yall are a rare breed of players. Black Widow was the #1 hero with the most skill expression. 100% of her require skill and anyone who embraced that challenge became better players all around and that part is a fact

Even the people who arent as cool with me as they are with others here. I love yall too. Because of the fact that we walkes the same journey.

What S0 - S8.5 BW forced out of us in order to find value will continue to serve us with this new BW.

Shes more of a run and gunner now. No more long range uncontested shots. No more long range well placed shots. No more coming from spawn still getting value shooting into the cart fight up ahead.

However, now that she has inf sprint.. I personally was against this because I already knew & envisioned well seasoned players like ZLEK, DeemerZ, even people here like Ohdanny, Jesae, Waffix, etc... most likely will be running lobbies because the potential is crazy because of how hugh her skill expression was.

Now that her skill expression has diminished, but only shows up in her ult form sniping wise, he other things like meter management, positioning, target priority and etc will still serve us in this new run and gun playstyle. As a matter a fact we'll already be leagues ahead of others because they gotta get used to it or get right if they do..

Of course, we still gotta see how things go but I'm doing my best to look at the positives whule already expressing my negatives about this.

Shoutout to waffix, that video & bible verse helped me move on from what I loved about her. Now I'll do my best to find a new love within her and I already have. Love the things that still exist about her and its less to do with her kit and more to do with the qualities we've gained because of her S0 - S8.5 version.

Personally, I only really mess with yall fr. Fuck the main community. NOT ALL BUT most have treated me like shit so yea, fuck em.. until shown otherwise,

like for example, the folks who show up also wanting a BW rework but at the same time respecting us & what we love about her & what she does have to offer. So basically, real people 😆

Just had this thought while in the practice range. Would be a niche buff 🙇🏾‍♂️

How I feel the devs should buff Widow in a way thats utility focused:

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Firstly: She has a rifle that does 120 per hit, 240 headshot, and fall off ranges firing from hip fire or not charged ads shot. Batons that do 70 dmg per sec. She has a sprint. A super jump. And a two part ability into 1.

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• She actually has 6 pieces of utility: Rifle, Batons, Sprint, Super Jump, Kick, Grapple stun. Technically 5 because kick-grapple is built into 1 and only after connecting the kick does the other ability activate.

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• Her ult is aoe based. 120 - 170 damage burst of plasma that slows anyone in the plasma by 55% & leaves anyone hit by the initial blast debuffed for 4 seconds

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So far, utility heavy. So we see thats the devs vision. Instead of biting the hand that feeds, by gutting / changing what they created.. lets **add** to whats here. And this is where the list of buffs begin. Also, these ideas are a mix of mine and others through all my time maining BW and seeing ideas here in tbe sub since S1 and on

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☆ Batons now slow enemies by a low percentage for .5 seconds or however short to where skill is required to take advantage of the slow. Anyone hit 3 times with Baton gets electrified. This debuff puts a meter on the enemy for lets say 3 - 5 seconds and if they absorb enough damage by anyone it'll fill the meter causing an AOE electrocution in the area with a damage of 25 & stunning all enemies in the electricity for less than a second. When electrocuted, enemies get shocked for 3 seconds as a result. Shocked grants the game engine a chance to randomly zap you, which interrupts any action of yours except anything already in the game that grants invulnerablility. Getting zapped will have its own uniuqe animation and it last 0.1 - 0.3 seconds.

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Anyone thats electrified who gets headshotted by BW before the meter disappears causes a slighty larger electrocution AOE and 15 extra damage to the electrified target who got headshotted. Anyone thats electrified who didnt get electrocuted thats within 2m of electricity when the electrocution happens causes a chain reaction electrocution that does 10 damage and is has a smaller AOE. Chain reaction electrocutions do not apply shock.

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☆ New passive: Hanging Whenever BW is near a ledge she can hang on it with 1 hand. The game registers the hang as a stance. Hanging consumes meter the slowest. When hanging she can shimmy side to side which consumes slightly more meter than hanging. While hanging she has 3 options:

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2. Let go, its own animation but quick and smooth

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3. Super pull. Acts as a super jump but isnt as high as super jump. Consumes a bit more meter than super jump.

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☆ New ability: Grapple hook Can only be used to hang on a ledge or to grapple to a teammate. You get 2 grapple hooks that recharges every 7 seconds. Grants you 25 armor when used & depletes 3 seconds after grapple hook ends. When using grapple hook to get to a teammate, it grants them 25 armor

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☆ Sprinting consumes half of what it consumes now. So basically, sprinting takes less away from your meter

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What yall think about this? And dont take this the wrong way but im not interested in how you'd make changes.. im interested in your opinion about these ideas

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EDIT: Idk how the 1st option from Hanging stance got deleted but the one I missed = She can pull herself up with one hand while being scoped or unscoped when pulling herself up, allowing her to 3rd person peak on a higher platform

As the title suggests. Early on in this game I randomly found a twitch channel that was live and was doing tournaments. During that time there were way more people and had lots of ranges of players from Plats to One Above All's.

To get to the point, I'm making this post if anyone's interested in joining a Discord that hosts community ran & community led tournaments for Marvel Rivals.

I'm in it, and so are other folks who I've met through that. Lots of people in there are very much into the comics and discusses the lore through chat, discord & live on twitch. Its also LGBTQ+ friendly. The people there mostly are cool. There's few crashout type folks too but they are welcomed as well because if you overstep or be disrespectful, you will 💯 get called out.

If you're interested lmk I'll dm you the discord link and if you have more questions I'll gladly answer them to the best of my knowledge. And if you dont care then scroll past & continue not caring 🫡