2-day New Forest backpacking route from London – recommendations?

I'm looking for a 2-day backpacking trip in the New Forest, ideally travelling by train from London rather than driving.

A few requirements:

  • 2 days / 1 night
  • Around 4–5 hours walking per day — roughly 15–18 km/day would be ideal
  • I'd like it to feel like a proper backpacking trip, with plenty of open Forest, heathland and woodland, rather than lots of roads or built-up areas
  • Ideally point-to-point or a loop, rather than simply doing the same route twice
  • Campsite with proper toilets and showers
  • Ideally accessible by train from London
  • Happy to finish at a different railway station from where I started
  • I'm not looking for anything technically difficult or particularly hilly

At the moment I'm considering something based around Brockenhurst, with either Hollands Wood or Long Meadow as the overnight campsite.

One possible idea I've seen is:

Day 1: Brockenhurst → Rhinefield / Blackwater → campsite
Day 2: campsite → Bolderwood / heathland → Brockenhurst

But I'm not sure whether that's the best way of seeing the Forest, or whether there are better options using another campsite/station.

What would you recommend? Particularly interested in routes that give a good feeling of being away from civilisation while still keeping the walking to around 4–5 hours per day.

Thanks!

Edit: Planning on going during the first 2 weeks of October

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u/bonzo_bcn — 10 days ago

Considering a JetBlack VICTORY — is it actually reliable long-term?

I'm looking for a smart trainer and I'm currently deciding between the JetBlack VICTORY and the Wahoo KICKR CORE 2.

The VICTORY is very appealing, particularly because of the features and price, but I've been reading through this subreddit and have come across quite a few posts about various issues — connectivity/dropouts, firmware problems, power reporting, noises, hardware failures, etc.

Obviously, people are more likely to post on Reddit when something goes wrong, so I'm conscious that this may give a distorted impression.

For those who have owned a VICTORY for 6–12+ months, if you had the choice between the VICTORY and a KICKR CORE 2 at roughly the same price, which would you choose purely from a reliability/long-term ownership perspective?

I'm not particularly interested in extra features — my priority is basically buy it, connect it to Zwift, and have it work reliably for years.

Thanks!

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u/bonzo_bcn — 16 days ago
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Singer 201K + 20D silpoly garments — how can I make sewing easier?

I have a Singer 201K and I'm planning to start making some garments (jacket, trousers) from 20D silpoly.

I know the usual recommendation is to use a 60/8 or 65/9 Microtex needle, but I'm wondering what other things I can do to make sewing lightweight silpoly as easy and trouble-free as possible.

In particular:

  • Is a walking foot attachment worthwhile on a 201K for 20D silpoly, or is it unnecessary?
  • Does using tissue paper under/between the fabric make a significant difference? I'd really prefer to avoid having to mess around with tissue paper if possible.
  • Are there any particular presser feet that make handling slippery/lightweight fabric easier?
  • Are there useful machine settings/tension adjustments I should make?
  • Are there any other inexpensive upgrades or tricks that make a noticeable difference?

My main goal is to spend my time actually sewing rather than constantly fighting the fabric or setting things up. I'm not looking to optimise every last gram or achieve industrial-level perfection — I just want a setup that makes sewing 20D silpoly reasonably straightforward and repeatable.

I'd particularly appreciate advice from anyone who has actually sewn silpoly/silnylon garments on a vintage Singer.

Thanks!

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u/bonzo_bcn — 2 months ago

Iceland divide extended

We completed this route last week, here's the trip report:

# The Iceland Divide

The plan was to decide our direction of travel based on the wind forecast, but when I checked the buses I realised the bus from Vik to Reykjavik didn't run on Mondays or Wednesdays — the days we would most likely finish the route. So the decision was made for us, and we crossed our fingers for the favour of the weather gods.

## Day 1 — 3:02:42 h, 57.44 km, 334 m

The bus was a bit of a faff, but we finally arrived in Vik at around 5pm. After sorting the bags and changing clothes, we set off on the long-awaited journey. The first 40km are on the Ring Road — we didn't know it at the time, but that would be the highest speed we'd travel at until the last day. After two hours of riding we took the turn onto our first F-road, where we found some facilities and filled our bottles.

We rode for about 90 more minutes on an easy-going track — European-style gravel. It didn't feel remote at all; every few minutes we passed a farm or a house next to the road. Even so, we had no choice but to camp right beside it. I think we heard just one car the whole night.

## Day 2 — 5:51:59 h, 63.47 km, 1,297 m

Excited and in high spirits, we set off early. The goal was Landmannalaugar and its hot spring. In theory this was meant to be the hardest day, since we had to climb from almost sea level up into the highlands — later we found out it wasn't.

We took the F208, since the F210 had a lot of water on it and rangers advised avoiding it. The F208 didn't disappoint. We were leaving civilisation behind, but it still didn't feel remote — there were a few houses in the first kilometres, and later we passed some bikepackers, a campsite, and quite a few cars.

The scenery was stunning: a wide, green, open valley with broad rivers flowing through it. Some of the climbs were steep enough that we walked them, giving our backsides a rest. There were a few easy river crossings, the sun was out, and I couldn't quite believe we were using sunscreen — we'd never had such good weather on any of our trips. I wondered if something was amiss, or if this was the calm before the storm. After all, this was the Iceland Divide, and so far it felt like the easiest bikepacking trip we'd ever tackled.

We reached a valley where we could see the mountains surrounding Landmannalaugar; we were getting close, and the excitement grew with every kilometre.

Landmannalaugar was extremely busy — it was, after all, mid-August. We set up camp and headed straight for the hot spring; I could have spent the rest of the day there. We went back after dinner for a second soak, and by then it was much quieter, as most of the day visitors had already left.

## Day 3 — 6:35:49 h, 78.69 km, 1,011 m

We made an early start to avoid the incoming traffic to Landmannalaugar. The first kilometres wound through stunning lava-field landscape; we were riding a different section from the official Divide route, to avoid a busy road. The track wasn't as easy-going as the previous days — very rocky terrain that made progress slow. Some of the drivers we passed took photos of us, and one even shouted "I take my hat off to you!" — if only he'd known this was meant to be the *easy* section.

We had a short, traffic-free road section with a light tailwind pushing us along — it was all going too smoothly, and we knew there had to be a catch somewhere. We turned right and the wind hit us head-on. Still, the sun was shining and the wind wasn't too strong, so all in all we were still in luck.

A few kilometres later we turned left, leaving the tarmac for an F-road towards Þórisvatn. The washouts slowed our progress, since we couldn't build up enough speed to float over them. A few cars passed without slowing at all, leaving us in a cloud of dust each time — I'd expected a bit more consideration from 4x4 drivers, but in general none of them slowed down or asked if we needed anything.

This section felt like a mix of Death Valley and Mordor — never-ending straights through black sand and rock, like riding across the Moon. It wasn't an easy day; saddle sores were starting to set in. After more than six hours we reached the Versalir hut. It's privately owned, so we camped behind one of the buildings, sheltered from the mild wind.

## Day 4 — 7:09:49 h, 73.26 km, 1,029 m

During the night I could hear drops hitting the fly — the world was back to normal, and the bad weather had finally caught up with us, though it wasn't quite pouring.

Rain continued through the morning. Once again we didn't follow the official track, which runs along the right side of the lake; ours ran along the left. With a mild headwind and rain, we carried on pedalling through Death Valley/Mordor under a grey sky, aiming for Nýidalur.

The view of the lake to our right was stunning. Washouts kept slowing us down, but once we rejoined the official track the terrain got worse — sand, rocks, and washouts made our saddle sores worse and our progress even slower. It was starting to feel more remote; we only passed a few cars and three backpackers all day.

We reached an airstrip, so we assumed Nýidalur couldn't be far, and it wasn't. There, we asked about the river crossings and topped up our water, as the ranger told us it was fairly dry from that point on. The first two crossings were very low, but she warned that by the time we reached the third, 20km away, the level might have risen. So we planned to camp just before it and attempt the crossing early the next morning.

That's what we did. It also happened to be the day of the eclipse — a bit cloudy, so we didn't get a full view, but it was good enough. That evening we needed our head nets, as small flies swarmed around, annoying rather than biting. I also took a few photos of the river so I could compare the level in the morning.

## Day 5 — 9:49:51 h, 109.01 km, 1,160 m

We woke at 6am to attempt the crossing at 7am. The level was lower than the evening before, but not by much — knee-high, with a current strong enough to make it a real challenge. We struggled to stop the river from pulling our bikes downstream, and in hindsight we probably didn't cross at the best point. We should have carried the bags across first and then the bikes — it would have made things much easier.

We didn't know it yet, but this was going to be the longest day of the trip. The plan had been to ride 70–80km, camp, and do a shorter day afterwards before the climb to Askja.

After the crossing we saw only two cars, one of which asked about the river conditions — they'd turned back the day before and were trying again. These would be the only people we'd see until late evening; the trip was starting to feel genuinely remote.

We left the Death Valley/Mordor landscape behind. The terrain was still rough, but now alternated between lava fields and green stretches — a welcome change of scenery. Again we took a different route from the original Divide, staying further from the Vatnajökull glacier in the hope of better views, though in the end it was too far away to really appreciate.

There were a few easy river crossings, then the landscape shifted again — more of a desert, reminiscent of Tatooine; we half expected R2-D2 and C-3PO to appear on the horizon. That didn't last long before we entered a very sandy section. By then we'd ridden around 70km, so we tried to pitch the tent — but I hadn't brought proper sand stakes, and even with only a gentle wind we couldn't get a decent pitch. I couldn't face the little-rock/big-rock method, and worried that camping there would leave everything coated in fine black sand. So we decided to push on for the hut at the base of Askja instead — the supposed highlight of the trip.

A week earlier, this section had been closed: *"F910 is closed south/west of Holuhraun until further notice. A river has eroded beneath the road, making it impassable. Work to reroute the road has started."* Luckily the rerouting had been finished, and we could head towards Askja. The first stretch was a mix of sand and rock — without the rerouting it would have been impossible to cross. It ended in a long, Baja-Divide-style sand section. We initially followed the car tracks, but when a couple of vehicles came up fast behind us, we moved aside to let them pass and discovered the sand was firmer off the tracks — so that's where we rode from then on. By this point saddle sores were a serious issue; we'd been riding for nine hours with still one to go.

After the sand we entered a completely different landscape, tinted yellow by pumice rock — or what was left of it. Ten hours and 108km after setting off, we reached the Dreki campsite. A few campers were there, and four of them just stared at us for a while, as if we'd landed from another planet. I'll never forget their faces — it was as if they were thinking, "Where the hell did these two come from?"

My son reckoned it was a glitch, but my phone's Face ID didn't work that day or the next. I'm still not sure if my face had simply changed from exhaustion or if it really was a glitch — either way, it started working again two days later.

## Day 6 — 1:07:56 h, 7.84 km, 327 m

A recovery day. We'd reached the highlight of the trip — Askja — so the plan was to climb it, swim in Víti, and spend the rest of the day recovering and exploring the gorge next to the campsite.

It took us almost an hour to climb the 8km up to Askja. The ranger at the top said it was fine to swim in Víti, so up we went, expectations fully intact. After a short walk we reached Askja itself, though it was too cloudy to see the whole lake.

Getting down to Víti wasn't as simple as we'd hoped — there was a sign warning hikers about landslides, and the path was steep and muddy. We're not that adventurous, so we called it a day and decided not to risk it. What was supposed to be the highlight of the trip turned out to be a bit of a letdown — but as they say, "it's not the destination, it's the journey," and the journey so far had been fantastic.

We spent most of the day at the campsite café, where the staff offered us waffles they'd made for a group of Italians who didn’t eat them. Hungry as we were, we couldn't say no.

In the evening we explored the gorge next to the campsite, which was spectacular. I also had a chat with the rangers, checking that the route back to the Divide trail was rideable. She said it should be "fun" on a bike. It turned out we had very different ideas of what "fun" meant.

## Day 7 — 7:02:23 h, 67.42 km, 539 m

The trail ahead was, according to a Reddit post, about as remote as it gets — known mainly to local 4x4 clubs — so we didn't expect much traffic, and we were right. We thanked the staff at Dreki before leaving; they would be the last people we'd see until noon the following day. Fifty kilometres of solitary riding lay ahead before we rejoined the Divide.

The trail started out smooth, but that didn't last — it soon turned into loose, rocky ground, painfully slow going for our saddle sores. If all 50km had been like that, it would have taken us seven hours to finish. Luckily the landscape changed after a few kilometres: sometimes hard-packed, sometimes lava field, sometimes sand, with the tiny flies making an unwelcome return. We could feel ourselves descending out of the highlands, with hints of green appearing on the horizon. The weather was still on our side, sunny with cloudy spells — we really couldn't complain.

Eventually we rejoined the original Divide track. Again I expected a smoother, more gravelly surface, and again I was wrong — it was even rougher than the last stretch of our detour.

To reach the Botni hut, our goal for the day, there were two options: the hiking path, which the Divide route follows, and the 4x4 track, which is the one we took. The 4x4 track was extremely rough, running through lava fields where at times we could barely tell the trail from its surroundings, despite it being marked with small wooden posts. Those last 8km to Botni felt like an eternity — if this was the rough option, the official hiking route would probably have meant an 8km hike-a-bike. When we arrived we could see the posts marking the hiking path, and it looked far from easy. We'd made the right call.

This was probably the most beautiful camping spot of the whole trip, right by a lake with the sun shining — a shame it was so cold we couldn't stay outside for long. By this point I was dreaming of hot dogs and a smooth riding surface.

## Day 8 — 7:58:10 h, 119.66 km, 1,029 m

We had roughly 100km left. The original plan had been to ride 70–80km, camp, and cover the rest the next day in time for the 1:40pm bus back to Reykjavik. I told my son the surface would hopefully improve as we got closer to civilisation; he preferred not to get his hopes up, assuming it would stay slow-going right to the end.

It didn't start well. Leaving Botni, we could barely make out the track among the lava rocks — the marker posts had vanished, and even following car tracks proved difficult. It looked like it might be a very long day. But then, just a few hundred metres out from Botni, the trail began to improve. More and more sections of smooth hard-pack appeared as we followed the riverbed, the scenery turned greener, and we started passing gates that reminded us of home. The hard-pack kept improving, and aside from the odd washout we were soon riding at over 20km/h — a speed we'd almost forgotten existed.

The river widened, taking on two distinct tones of blue and grey. By noon we'd rejoined civilisation at Goðafoss, where we each had two hot dogs — my dream finally realised. Despite the saddle sores, we were in good spirits, so we decided to push on and finish the whole route that day. We knew a long, hard final climb still lay ahead, but we also had the pull of the finish line.

We only had to ride a short stretch on the Ring Road, and it was genuinely frightening — a coach passed uncomfortably close. I noted the company name and the time, and later wrote to them about the dangerous overtake. They replied very politely, saying they'd track down the driver and remind them of the importance of keeping a safe distance when passing cyclists.

We left the Ring Road to loop around a lake, including a small climb, then crossed the Ring Road again and began the approach to the final climb, along overgrown tracks and through gates. The sun was out, and — surprisingly, once more — we found ourselves reaching for sunscreen.

The final climb rewarded us with amazing views over the valley. We alternated between walking and riding, giving our legs and backsides a break; we had all the time in the world by then.

At the summit, Akureyri came into view below us — it was downhill all the way from there.

We wanted to reach Akureyri. But at the same time, we didn't want the adventure to end.

u/bonzo_bcn — 2 months ago

Looking for a camp jacket ~25-30% warmer than the Decathlon Forclaz MT100, but same or smaller packed size

I currently use the Forclaz MT100 as my camp jacket — for reference it's:

- Synthetic fill, 125g/m² in the body, 100g/m² in the sleeves/hood

- -5°C "survival"/+5°C comfort rating (Decathlon's numbers, take with a pinch of salt)

- 370g in size L

- Packs into its own zip pocket, roughly the size of a large fist

It does the job but on colder trips I want more warmth in the same pack volume. I'm after something that's noticeably warmer — call it 25-30% — while packing down to the same size or smaller. Weight is a secondary concern; volume in my frame bag/seat pack is the real constraint.

A few things about my use case:

- Camp-only. I'm not moving in it, so I don't need it to breathe, stretch, or handle active sweat management — pure static insulation while cooking/sitting around/sleeping-adjacent.

- Bikepacking, not backpacking, so pack shape/volume in a bag matters more than weight on my back.

- No preference on down vs synthetic — whichever actually delivers the best warmth-to-pack-size trade.

Has anyone found something that beats the MT100 on this specific trade-off (warmth per litre of pack volume, not warmth per gram)? Could be a high fill-power down jacket (800+FP) or a higher-loft synthetic (Climashield Apex, Primaloft Gold, etc.) — genuinely open to either. Would love real-world packed-size comparisons rather than spec sheets, since compressibility claims vary a lot between brands.

Budget isn't fixed but I'd rather not go crazy — this is a "nice to have" upgrade, not an essential.

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u/bonzo_bcn — 2 months ago

Will this AliExpress titanium folding spoon fit inside a TOAKS 750 ml pot with a 100 g gas canister + SOTO Amicus?

I'm trying to put together a compact cooking setup for bikepacking and wondering if anyone has this particular titanium folding spoon from AliExpress:

AliExpress titanium folding spoon

The setup I'm looking at is:

  • TOAKS 750 ml titanium pot (POT-750-NH)
  • 100 g screw-on gas canister
  • SOTO Amicus stove
  • This folding titanium spoon

The TOAKS 750 ml is 110 mm tall, so space is fairly tight. The Amicus folds down quite small, but I'm not sure whether the spoon will fit alongside the canister and stove without having to force everything in.

Has anyone actually tried this spoon in a TOAKS 700 ml (POT-750-NH)?

If so, does everything nest inside with the lid on?

Thanks!

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u/bonzo_bcn — 2 months ago
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Is my Exped Ultra 3R the weak link in my sleep system?

I'm trying to work out why my son and I were both cold on a couple of nights in Iceland despite seemingly having a sleep system that should have been warm enough.
We both use:
Katabatic Flex 15 quilt

Exped Ultra 3R sleeping pad

Merino long-sleeve base layer

Merino long tights

Quilt fully clipped/secured — no obvious drafts

During our Iceland Divide bikepacking trip, there were a couple of nights where we were both noticeably cold, particularly at Reykjavik campsite and Landmannalaugar. Temperatures were definitely above freezing, probably around 4°C, and I don't believe they dropped below 0°C.

What's puzzling is that on the other nights, further into the Icelandic highlands, we were completely comfortable with exactly the same equipment, despite the conditions not obviously being warmer.

Neither of us felt that the cold was particularly coming from underneath, which makes me unsure whether the pad is actually the problem.

The Ultra 3R has an R-value of around 2.9, so I'm wondering whether that's simply not enough for temperatures around 3–5°C, even when paired with a Katabatic Flex 15.

Could the relatively low R-value of the pad be causing us to lose enough heat that the quilt can't perform as expected, even if we don't consciously feel cold coming through the pad?

Or are there other factors that could explain why both of us were cold on the same nights but fine on other nights with the same sleep system?

Would moving to something around R4.5–5.5 make a meaningful difference at these temperatures, or would you look elsewhere first?

I'd be particularly interested in people's real-world experience with the Ultra 3R around 0–5°C, rather than the manufacturer's temperature recommendations.

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u/bonzo_bcn — 2 months ago

Water between tubeless tape and rim after river crossing

I installed brand new Tesa tubeless tape, went on a bikepacking trip that involved river crossing, and today I was going to remove the sealant from the wheels for storage and found that there is water running between the rim and the rim tape.
If I leave it to dry will it be a disaster waiting to happen in my next trip?
Should I remove, dry, and install new tubeless tape?

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u/bonzo_bcn — 4 months ago

Going chamois-free for bikepacking — what underwear actually works?

I'm planning to ditch the padded shorts for my next bikepacking trip and just use regular shorts over underwear. I've found that even quality bibs (I ride Sportful Total Comfort) eventually become moisture traps on long days — they start fine but by hour four or five things get pretty grim down there.

The main things I'm worried about are:

- **Chafing** — especially on longer days in the saddle

- **Rolling/bunching up** — nothing worse than seams migrating to exactly the wrong place mid-ride

- **Moisture management** — synthetic obviously, but some fabrics just hold sweat and make things worse

I've heard merino wool comes up a lot, and I've seen people mention specific brands like Runderwear, Alpkit, or just generic sports boxers. But I don't know what actually holds up over multiple days of riding.

So — what do you actually use? Boxers, boxer briefs, trunks? Any specific brands or materials that have genuinely worked for you on multi-day rides? And is there anything you tried that sounded good but was a disaster in practice?

Also curious about the outer layer — are stretchy shorts (trail running style, MTB baggies with stretch panels, etc.) a big part of making this work? Or does it not matter much as long as the underlayer is sorted?

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u/bonzo_bcn — 4 months ago
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DIY silpoly rain skirt — skirt vs wrap design thoughts?

Planning to sew my first rain skirt out of 1.1oz silpoly. Never used one before so wanted to get some input on design before I cut anything.

I'm leaning toward a simple conical skirt with shock cord at the waist and hem rather than a wrap. My reasoning:

- Simpler construction (no overlap panel, no closures)

- Shock cord at the bottom lets me dial in the hem opening for stride length

- Nothing to snag or delaminate like velcro on silpoly

- No gap opening in wind

The wrap design seems to need velcro at both the waist and the side seam to stay closed while moving, which feels like added complexity and potential failure points on a silpoly surface.

Obvious downside of the skirt is you have to take it on and off rather than just wrapping and unwrapping.

Am I missing any other practical reasons to go wrap over skirt? Anyone sewn either and have regrets?

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u/bonzo_bcn — 4 months ago

Father/daughter first multi-day hike — which section of the SWCP? (4 days, remote, London train access)

Planning a 4-day hike with my 19-year-old daughter. It'll be her first multi-day hike, so I want to make it special without it being a suffer-fest.

About us:

  • Both fit but not ultra-endurance types — happy with 4–6 hours of actual walking per day.
  • I've got decent hiking and bikepacking experience in both England and Scotland, comfortable with navigation and logistics.
  • We'll be wild camping / using campsites (ultralight setup).

What we're after:

  • Remoteness — we want to actually feel away from it all, not walking through car parks and ice cream queues.
  • Stunning scenery — dramatic views, that sort of thing.
  • Accessible by train from London — no car, so start and end points need to be reachable by public transport.
  • Nothing too punishing — we're not racing it, we want to enjoy it.

South West Coast Path is an option (partial Cumbria way and Dartmoor traverse being the other 2) but it's massive, so which section would you pick for remoteness and dramatic coastal scenery? Any specific start/end points, wild camping spots, or sections to avoid would be really helpful.

Thanks!

u/bonzo_bcn — 5 months ago