u/can_tthinkofagoodone

It doesn't give you solutions but better problems, you're welcome bye

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZyIEtn-bglAPKynIQg6SbRDzdt_sAQ5O

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOGsWqsfK6qSuuNrcstFdSbig2DaS1mM5

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSyRDDslxKMzvMh39nK5_CJMlYZ-eRniO

https://www.youtube.com/live/HnL6MUa5FuE (edit: reordering these links to put this one last as it is the hardest to understand and most unstructured, this guy has many vids on the subject but not complete playlist yet to link so probably watch those first too tbh or this)

I like reading and drawing about this stuff but I'm going to have to stop posting for reals this time for a good while, because a lot is at stake with some coming deadlines, anyways take care y'all bye

God, (that I don't believe in), help me, I'm 23 I'm rather old when it comes to first attempts to learn really abstract math, maybe my other special interest in learning itself/teaching will come in handy but it's going to suckkk

All because this guy is a bit too right and a bit too eloquent, although I can't blame him given his mentor and I love Ackoff too much, his idealised design is too, well, life-affirming.

Why is everything worth studying so esoteric and frequently steeped in math? I guess the question anwers itself but it's like that game stats disco elysium inside-joke, I'm impatient dammit!!

(This post was brought to you by an attempt to satirize the thinly veiled vent posts that pass as discussion here, without taking myself too seriously because I feel some of it too, it's a normal to an unfair world order reaction and hey if you can't beat them join them applies on this shitty by design platform, never miss an opportunity to vent to random online strangers lol)

Ok so there's these 3 foundational modes of reasoning right:

Deduction
__________________
A -> B
A
=> B

example:

All men are mortal
Socrates is a man
=> Socrates is mortal

Induction (flip first premise and conclusion of deduction)
__________________
A
B
=> Maybe A -> B

example:

Socrates is mortal
Socrates is a man
=> maybe All men are mortal

Abduction (flip second premise and conclusion of deduction)
__________________
A -> B
B
=> Maybe A

example:

All men are mortal
Socrates is mortal
=> maybe Socrates is a man

(he could be a dog for example, A-> B could be false and B still true since say both C and C -> B could be true)

(Notation:
With A, B, C being some propositions,
A -> B means "if A then B" aka "Not A or B"
=> means "therefore")

I suspect they actually form a circle where the input is surprising observations and the output is increasingly more verified theories or new surprising observations which you can use to start the loop again, this loop, that's why these 3 go together as far as purpose goes, while if you have any pair of the triad A, B, A -> B, using one of these allows you to get to the missing piece as the connection between them as far as mechanics go.

The thing is though while all are useful steps in that loop the loop has more steps in there between them because I can't formulate it using only them but I don't know what those are yet because I need to finish uni hw and sleep lol.

Can you help me find the missing steps, I also suspect that somehow these will help:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8338823/

https://www.iiisci.org/JOURNAL/PDV/sci/pdfs/SA584PX25.pdf

https://youtu.be/yGN5DBpW93g

but idk yet and I don't have time to test things myself

Also, I am increasingly aware that free will is most likely real lmao.

inb4 the "non-doomers" that criticize me for repping do the very doomer move of equating the existence of that with something like omnipotence, (that we obviously don't have, read Ackoff btw omnicompetence is what is desirable anyway), or the absence of coercion, (which is obviously also everywhere), so they can reductio ad absurdum style, reject it and by extension what it actually does mean, namely that the future is open and that designing it by conjuring an ideal end state and working backwards as to devise a plan to manifest it is a meaningful enterprise.