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All I think about is protein! I wrote a haiku about Protein:

Protein all damn day

Protein protein need lots more

Protein protein yes!

Zwifters are pretty good about researching training on their own, but I'm sure people can discuss below what Norwegian 4x4s are and why they work.

I usually do one workout a week of them. VO2 is so crucial.

I was talking to a Group Ride buddy this weekend who started doing them in January. He's hooked...and happy with the results. He seems stronger on the bike.

In this sub and other cycling subs you get posts about "How do I get faster?" One answer is Norwegian 4x4s. Usually people are not doing them.

PS: I have done them with ERG Mode on and off. I'm ok with either, but prefer Off better.

The sub description explains it (partly). The Vegan Society, which was founded in 1944 and coined the term "vegan," provides the most widely cited and authoritative definition of the movement.

Veganism has 3 core foundations:

* Ethics

* Health/Nutrition

* Environment

Whenever this comes up IRL, it causes a lot of emotions for people who identify as Vegan, but really were just having a plant-based diet.

I've seen people benefit by taking the time to actually read what Veganism is. Then, have an honest internal discussion on how well they do across all three Principles (not just the part about not eating animal products).

This sub chooses The Vegan Society as the definitive authority. That does not mean you have to, but it is good to understand origins.

Eating healthy and being environmentally conscious is sometimes too much for some. If that's the case, "Plant-based Diet" is a fine option. Some identify as vegan, but use wool or leather, etc.

"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

> "For the benefit of animals, humans, and the environment": While animal rights are the core, the Society explicitly links the lifestyle to broader benefits for the planet and human health.

> "A philosophy and way of living": This distinguishes veganism from a mere "diet." It frames it as a moral framework that influences daily choices beyond just what is on a plate.

As is usually the case, we should reserve judgement until Billie Eilish comments on the subject.