8 Mile is Rocky with literacy

I’m a known whore for PlutoTV, and this week they put 8 Mile in rotation. On watching it again for the first time in at least 15 years, I couldn’t help apply my own life to the lessons of Rocky, Rabbit, and the American Dream.

In Rocky’s 1970s Philadelphia, physical prowess, training, and violence creates winners. Grit and determination, sure, but at the end of the day you gotta have a reach and width of someone like Sylvester Stallone taking weird ass experimental 70s steroids to get to a place like that.

Philadelphia is reeling from the loss of the steel industry across the state, the fracking boom is still generations away, and in an American city with almost no economic ladders left the only option left is to fight your way out.

Meanwhile, in 8-Mile Eminem plays himself as a small-statured, but creatively obsessed writer who also uses battle, the act of a 1v1 ring fight where two men enter and only one leaves, as his opportunity to ascend through the ranks of a 1990s America that’s to rewarded every major city in the country with Clintonian riches, except Detroit.

Detroit is crumbling, decimated by the influx of cheaper, more reliable, higher-quality cars from Germany, Japan, and South Korea over the previous 40 years. At the same time we watch Rabbit take his commute home, and a soundtrack plays over real shots from real streets in a city that had been all but forgotten by time and economic purpose.

Yada yada, the hero struggles and transforms and you bet your ass there’s a dope montage and he triumphs victorious etc etc.

I just thought it was interesting to connect the two because in some ways, it shows our evolution as a viewing public.

What does any authority figure tell you when you hit someone as a kid?

“Use your words.”

8-Mile was the movie for a newer generation with much higher rates of literacy than the 1970s, and the battle wasn’t about physical domination. Since WWII America had lost Korea, Vietnam, and barely made it out of Iraq the first time. The idea of American exceptionalism being a pure expression of physical force was degrading, and the new era called for cleverness above all else.

Education, literacy, the ability to understand English with its many entendres and turns of phrase was the new battlefield. Intelligence above all else. If we can’t punch our way out of it, we’ll have to think this thing through instead.

As a writer, the quote from Hamilton always hits hardest: “I wrote my way out.”

Whether it’s code, prose, raps, or beats, writing your way out used to mean something in this country. But since AI scraped and stole every piece of art ever published on the web with zero repercussions, I guess we’ll have to see what comes next.

9-Mile: The AI rap battle? Is that a thing.

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u/ex1stence — 4 days ago

Is Bill Lawrence the most accomplished showrunner in television history?

Aside from maybe Noah Hawley and Ryan Murphy, I don’t think I’ve heard of a creator/writer/showrunner who’s ever been on the same kind of run Bill Lawrence is right now.

Between the Scrubs reboot, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, and The Rooster it seems like Bill just legitimately can’t miss. I mean sure there were some complaints here and there about Lasso S3 but other than that? Dude is firing absolutely nothing but gold bullets from every chamber on three different networks simultaneously.

Thinking through the history of showrunners and creators, I can’t name one who was juggling this many high-level Emmy-nominated projects all at the same time in network, cable, or streaming. Is he actively making a generational run for television greatness rn?

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u/ex1stence — 16 days ago

Is it me or is Silo just Law and Order dressed up as Lost for Halloween?

Maybe it starts to change up or get better, but I’m almost all the way through the first season and it feels like they just put a cookie cutter cop drama underground, sprinkled some mystery box in there, and called it a day.

Most of the episodes are just well I heard Jimmy down in mechanical knew the guy and then they interview Jimmy but oh no Jimmy’s running! But it wasn’t actually Jimmy he was running cause of the contraband but Jimmy saw Carl that night on the docks and snooooore.

Is there something I’m missing? Does it eventually change up a bit past season one?

EDIT - Ya’ll are weird Widow’s Bay rules Silo drools THIS IS THE RHYTHM OF THE NIIIGHT

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u/ex1stence — 1 month ago
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What sets Widow’s Bay apart

I think what truly makes this show so great isn’t just the story, or the cinematography, or the setting. What really sets Widow’s Bay apart from other shows in the genre like From etc is that each monster of the week is built around the flaws, or desires, or failings of the characters themselves.

Sure the Sea Hag episode is about a mermaid siren from the deep, but it’s also about Tom’s loneliness, and his sense of longing since he lost his wife. Patricia’s party isn’t just about some druidic shaman devil taking souls, it’s about Patricia’s sense of rejection, and alienation, and fear of being the outsider.

Every monster preys upon the insecurities of the characters who inhabit Widow’s Bay, not just a monster for the sake of being a monster. There’s depth and meaning to that approach, which is why I think this show truly stands shoulders above the rest of what’s out there that’s tried to do the same.

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u/ex1stence — 2 months ago

Who gets priority in your kitchen?

When I’m walking across the line or down the stairs or wherever, my list goes like this:

1: Whoever has the hottest/sharpest thing
2: Whoever’s holding the heaviest thing
3: Whoever has the most momentum

What about yours?

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u/ex1stence — 2 months ago

What’s your persistent injury you deal with every day that makes you more of a badass than anyone else on this sub?

I’ll go first.

A few months ago a yellow sac spider bit me on my left foot and I got a crazy infection from it. Took antibiotics so the actual infection went away, but it left me with a persistent form of dermatitis which thinned out the layers of skin on that foot. Since I go to work every day, the constant rubbing and friction keeps wearing down various parts of my foot and I have something like 15 open sores that cause me immense, constant pain at all times while I’m on the line.

Beat that, chef.

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u/ex1stence — 3 months ago
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This sub justifies Netflix’s strategy

“Make shows that people can understand even if they’re scrolling on their phones.”

This involves repeating plot points multiple times throughout the episode, “telling instead of showing”, doing anything and everything to help people understand what’s happening in a story while they’re totally disengaged and scrolling some bullshit TikTok on their phone at the same time.

The number of takes I see on this sub in both comments and posts which clearly show that someone “missed something” has me genuinely concerned for the media literacy of current and future generations. It’s as though their attention spans are so short, and so limited, that if a main character isn’t reexplaining what’s happening every 7.4 seconds, there are people in this world who will actually get confused along the way.

“Wait why did Alamo’s mom rob Preston?” “Wait is Jules insecure?” “Hold on, you’re telling me that Nate changed as a person in several years after high school?”

Yes. Yes. AND YES. Holy fucking shit kids PUT DOWN THE PHONE FOR FIVE MINUTES AND WATCH THE SHOW.

I fear for Hollywood these days. They are contending with an industrial-level hijacking of the prefrontal cortex, and I’m not sure any of these attention spans are ever coming back.

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u/ex1stence — 3 months ago

Kinda over this whole everyone calling each other “chef” thing

Not only is it not the “sign of respect” that The Bear made it out to be since it refers to pretty much everyone behind the line, but it’s confusing and can even be dangerous.

On tight lines when everyone is in earshot, saying something like “behind you hot chef” or “sharp behind you chef” could apply to literally anyone at any time instead of exclusively the person who needs to be paying the most attention.

It also causes confusion during service when someone is trying to coordinate a pick with only one person on the line and not everyone at once. I can’t count the amount of times I’ve looked up from my station because I thought someone down the line was trying to get my attention, but they were talking to someone completely different and now I’ve lost my flow on a ticket.

It’s pretentious, unnecessary, and a genuine risk at times in a place where clear, concise, directed communication is the greatest asset that any team should have.

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u/ex1stence — 3 months ago

Where tf were all of ya’ll in S1??

Nate - Extortion, blackmail, assault
Cal - Assault, statutory rape
Jules - Transmission of CP
Rue - Assault, battery, theft of personal property
Fez - Assault and battery with a deadly weapon

Like this shit has ALWAYS been a crime show. Ya’ll are just realizing it late.

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u/ex1stence — 4 months ago

I’ve been seeing a lot of truly horrible (and immature) takes on this sub since the premiere of season 3, which got me thinking that many people here may not even be old enough to drink yet. So, how old are ya?

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u/ex1stence — 4 months ago