Do we think 3mg ldn can dull ketamine effects? I’ve read research but only on high doses (50+). I’m trying to decide if it’s tolerance or upping my ldn from 1.5 to 3 that’s making my sessions essentially nothing. I’ve been taking troches since last week of April, twice a week. 400-600mg
For those of you who have done both, how different are the experiences?
My previous provider said to spit so I did. My new provider said to swallow so I’ve been doing that mainly since.
I’ve done both and so far spitting seems underwhelming, but swallowing overwhelming lol. When I swallow I’m out of commission for hours (I usually take a few hours before bedtime anyway) but I tend to feel like dead weight until morning. The experiences themselves have felt a bit… darker? Like I tend to feel like I died and have visions like I’m in this black hole as just a spirit. I also notice I tend to see my old sessions as if I’m repeating them as well as the experiences afterwards. It’s so eerie. The interesting thing is I tend to feel more positive 2 days after. I haven’t felt that as much spitting.
Spitting (at a higher dose 600) sessions tend to be more vivid, interestingly enough. The visions are a mix between light and dark. I often explore more topics. I’m able to move around and eat and talk an hour and a half to two hours later. I also notice I tend to be more giggly. I’m able to reflect more on my session as I’m not incapacitated immediately so I can journal. However, sometimes it’s underwhelming and very quick and I end up wishing I swallowed.
I’m hoping to find a balance between the two.
So if you’ve done both, what’s the difference for you? Experience, timing, and benefits?
I’ve been feeling a bit down lately bc I’ve been thinking about how I’ve never once felt really good at something. Job wise is where it hurts me the most. It seems like everyone around me is a superstar and I am just… average. I feel I am lucky I still have a job honestly and manage to slip thru the cracks.
I so badly want to find a professional passion, purpose, something I’m good at. I often feel invisible in my work life. I’ve felt this at every job. I have a real career that I worked toward and began very passionate about because I felt I was good. But I’ve been in the field (IT) for 9 years now and don’t feel my skills have progressed to today’s standard. I used to love that it was a field you were constantly learning. Now there’s SO many options it’s overwhelming for me.
I’m at a crossroads in my career where I’m just not happy rn. But i have no idea where to go next or what to do next. I’ve been working full remote for 3 years (I was in office, then remote, then hybrid after Covid til my currently role of 2.5 years) where i am full remote, my team is in a completely diff state. I feel this adds to feeling invisible, isolated, and unimportant. But then I think I’m not capable of being a normal human with an in office job. Idk. I’m trying to remain grateful bc I have a remote job with freedom and salary I can live on. I’m always striving for more though, I just can’t seem to find my thing. I’m 32 years old with 3 kids. I’ve thought, my family is my purpose, but I’m not amazing at that either, and I still need professional purpose
(I am back in school and have switched my major twice lolz)
= a session wasted?
I have adhd and switched from Adderall XR back to vyvanse the last week. When I was doing troche sessions at home at first the telehealth provider said not to take my meds the day of bc being it’s a stimulant it could affect the dissociative experience the ketamine is trying to create. I have a new provider who is local and he didn’t mention not taking any of my meds when he looked over my list. I’m pretty useless at work without bc adhd and with Adderall I never seemed to not have an experience with the troche. I still dissociated pretty deeply.
However, when I switched to vyvanse for other reasons I totally didn’t even think about it and took it the morning before my sessions. The two sessions at night I did while having taken vyvanse the morning of were underwhelming. The first one was actually okay, I didn’t feel much til like 45 min in which was odd for me and the effects weren’t as they had been in the past. But the second session last week was basically nothing. I mean I felt a lil “off” while I was journaling with it in my mouth as I usually do but nothing beyond that.
My new provider also tells me to swallow it so I do but have lowered the dose considerably to titrate up again as swallowing was a whole diff ballgame to me.(a lot more intense for me)
So I found it odd I had even swallowed 400mg the first time and only felt a little. The last session I didn’t swallow bc for some reason I was getting really grossed out. Which is prolly why I felt basically nothing.
Anyway I just connected the dots yesterday that it’s probably the vyvanse. I see some people report they experience the same as when they don’t take it and others it makes the experience leas potent. I really thought being it’s 14 hours later it would be safe but I guess not! I’ll def be doing my next session with 0 vyvanse day of lol. Lesson learned!!
Just to add: I did a bit of my own research on med interactions with k because my previous provider who worked for one of those big k telehealth companies also said not to take my Guanfacine or Sertraline on those days either which made me a bit skeptical of him as both shouldn’t just not be taken every 3 days I was supposed to take k.
So I have been diagnosed (32 F) the last year and a half and it’s been a journey. Mostly recently I was taking Adderall XR 10mg for about 3 months. At first I thought it made me feel less robotic than vyvanse. However, I was initially taking IR but tried XR bc I wanted more stability. My prescriber gave me IR boosters but I stopped taking them bc they made me overstimulated. So I went to just taking the XR. while it wakes me up and gives me motivation it also tends to have me all over the place. I have interest in and wanna accomplish 10 things/hour when really I should be working. I also feel irritable and overstimulated which is tough as a mom and makes me feel bad.
I wanted to go back to Vyvanse, but because previously I had felt more productive work wise but tired and a lil flat I was still hesistant. But I also do not want to feel like a crazy B.
I have been taking 30mg last few days and it’s a bit insane how much less irritable I feel. Even if I do feel irritable, I’m not jumping at the bit to show it out loud if that makes sense. But I’m still struggling a bit with focus, I’m a lot more tired, and my mind still is doing that thing where it wants to do a bunch of other things at the same time.
In the past when I’ve brought this zombie feeling up my provider kept suggesting going down ( I had started at 20 ) I said I didn’t feel that would help productivity wise. So she gave me adderall boosters. my energy increased. But so did my irritability and for some reason I attributed it to vyvanse which is why I went with just adderall cause I felt more like myself and energetic.
Trying both separately now has definitely given me the clarity that vyvanse is much more regulating for me. But I really still don’t feel the focus, motivation, and energy are ideal. I feel a bit blah. Not sad just flat. I know people say it’s not a magic cure, but I need my focus at work to be much more productive than this.
Do these symptoms mean it’s too high? Or too low? I worry I’d lose the bit of productivity I have rn if I decrease, but also my heart rate is already in the 80-90s w V compared to 66-77 w A. I feel embarrassed to experiment even more with my provider cause I feel I never know what’s going on with my body with these meds and keep changing them but I notice we haven’t experimented with dosage with just one med really.
Also does anyone see a true difference in name brand vs generic?
Thank you if you actually read all of this. Sorry for the blabber, I literally can’t help it lol
That ^ I’ve (32 F) been diagnosed a little over a year now and on my med journey since. I have tried adderall IR, XR, vyvanse, Ritalin, Concerta, and I’ve been on Guanfacine for over a year (which helps immensely with my anxiety).
My executive function was extremely low without stims. Vyvanse and Concerta seem to help a ton with my productivity work wise. I switched back to Adderall and tried XR cause I felt it made me feel a little more “me”. It helps a lot with motivation, interest in hobbies, and productivity at home, but work it def lacks for me. I’m only on 10mg but I am hesitant to go higher because it does make me feel more on edge and impatient and I really don’t love that as I already am a bit irritable and impatient and it’s the thing I hate most about myself, especially as a mom and someone trying to be the best partner.
Sometimes I feel like there’s no happy ending here for me adhd med wise. But I don’t think I can totally drop the stim as my productivity is like 2% without any. Someone send magical meds and vibes my way ~
I would love some positive stories about people having difficulty finding their fit but ultimately finding some success in something
Just for context on meds and doses I’ve tried:
Vyvanse 20, 30
Adderall IR 5, 10, 15
Adderall XR 10
Ritalin 5, 10
Concerta 36
Im so bummed! I was about a month into at home k therapy and was just starting to see success. I ordered a refill 2 weeks ago and it’s still not here. Of course I waited too long to reorder bc finances so I was basically just out when I ordered. Took my provider 4 days to send the prescription over… Then UPS decided to be meanies and let my package hangout at a local facility to me for days…. Told me it’s going to be delivered to my local ups store not far away then never showed up. Then my tracking status took days to update to “delay” with no est delivery date. Talking to them on the phone multiple times got me nowhere. They just spewed random “they will deliver tomorrow” promises that were untrue lol. So I filed a claim. Then see my status still doesn’t update and talking to them on the phone again they now say it will take them 7-10 days to work on the claim so I think I made it worse lolol.
Hi!
My kids are 6, 9, & 9.
I’ve been obsessing over booking a cruise lately since I went on one with my person. We went on RCCL and had a blast at perfect day especially. I really want to take our kids on vacation. We’ve never really been anywhere but the water park in the next state over. There’s 5 of us so finding rooms near eachother and the price has been tough. I wanted to take them on a RCCL one, specifically utopia but couldn’t find anything in my budget.
Then I found a 7 day eastern carribean cruise on carnival celebration for $2715…… (RCCL 4 day perfect day wonder @ 3788) obviously the price difference and amount of time has me focused on Carnival, but I also have only heard bad things like it being dirty, food no good, and for partying adults. I don’t wanna annoy everyone with my kids and pop up in the wrong environment lol.
Is the celebration a good ship for kids? Is it worth the extra $$ for cococay RCCL fancy ship vibes? They market it so well as a family spot. Is 7 days on a cruise with kids this age too much!?
If anyone has any tips on finding cheap cruises for families of 5 lmk. I never realized what a b it is over 4 people lol. I’ve talked to multiple TA and haven’t had much success.
I’m curious what everyone does post-k? I’m in a telehealth program and they have an app I try to follow but often I find it finicky and overwhelming the amount of work the company I use puts into one session. Does anyone actually do these integration practices? I really do enjoy them and I think I’d benefit more from a better app.
If you do use a tele program with these resources, what do you find helpful? What do you find unhelpful?
Ahhh I had my third troche session and titrated up to my max dose of 2 for the first time and got sick. I even took 8mg zofran before. I did have a protein shake like 4 hours before (ok a few sips were left 3 hours before too). But I’ve ate a little after four hours before and been fine. This session I went from 1.5 to 2 and immediately I felt the difference. I went into the session more positive than I have ever before. I spent a good amount of time journaling and setting intentions and just in general feeling good.
The last session I thought about death a few times and it was kinda freaky so I was trying not to think about that before lol. I think I was in my experience for about 10-15 mins. I was definitely doing some reflecting and visualizing. The visuals were much more intense than last time. There was one point I truly felt like I floated above my body and my actual body felt light whereas it usually feels like I’m being pushed into my bed. It was interesting.
Then suddenly I started to get extremely hot and felt like I was melting lol. I tried taking blankets off. Then I got the dreaded feeling. I lightly called for my boyfriend and quickly crawled to my bathroom and woah I’ve never experienced K not in a blindfold w headphones and now I had both half off and it was very odd lol. Anyway I ended up puking a little (not a lot at all) and then my boyfriend helped me go back to bed but i was scared so I asked him to stay with me and I laid on his chest for an hour with my blindfold on. After I threw up I didn’t really feel the experience anymore but still felt off so I kept my blindfold and headphones on for an hour.
I was super bummed bc I had all the right things done before and felt it was going to be the most helpful session and now it was a waste and I’m nervous to do it again!
I’m using a telemedicine provider and am currently titrating my dose. They prescribe 200mg troches. You start with 1 and then 1.5 and then 2. I have had 2 sessions now. Following the protocol last night with 1.5. I’ve noticed both times I typically am very tired the next day and I have just been feeling much more blah in general.
Of course there could be other factors but I just found it odd as my friend who’s had success with it explained the next day as feeling amazing, instant relief like you’re floating on a cloud. Obviously it doesn’t last to that extent but I just don’t understand why it seems to be the opposite to me.
Does that mean it won’t work for me?
Hi guys!
I have endo and adeno. Extremely heavy periods pre IUD. I was convince to get the iud hoping I wouldn’t have a period at all and a few other reasons it made sense. However, a year later still getting periods every month and they kept getting longer and longer… from 7-18 days. They’re light! Like spotting everyday for the last 6 days but it’s exhausting. So I went to the ob and they put me on Milli bc in hopes it would “reset my cycle” for 6 weeks. I stayed on it for 8 and bled almost every single day 🙄. So I went back to the OB and they gave me the option of this non hormonal med that stops bleeding used for clotting, trying another bc but they felt it would be the same thing, a hysterectomy, or adding norethrindrone as a maintenance med. So I took the 5mg norethridrone. I’ve been taking it almost 3 weeks and I’m still bleeding daily 😭. Has anybody taken this combo for similar reasons and had the bleeding eventually stop?
I’m so bummed as me and my OB were openly discussing how hard it is being a woman and how every single option was less than ideal. Take Mirena out -> have extremely heavy periods be anemic but they’re only 5-7 days. Try another BC -> experiment with another hormone and maybe go thru same thing. Or maybe it helps but added hormones can add further complexities. Try norethrindrone-> may help but could also cause mood issues or acne(currently). Hysterectomy -> no more bleeding but also no more babies. Go back to just Mirena -> probably bleed lightly for 17 days a month.
HELPPPP being a woman is SO HARDDDDD