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Let's stop sucking off the Heavy Shitters and think for a few seconds.

Did Gege mean for Jogo to be weak when he said he was the only one who could match a 6F Sukuna? Or when he said Kenjaku would struggle against him? It's absorption, sure, but don't go telling me that the 1000yo sorcerer is unable to efficiently fight a curse without killing it. What about the time he had Sukuna call him strong and say he was one of the better opponents he had ever faced?

Did Gege mean for Mahito to be a grade 1 stats fodder carried by hax when he said that Kenjaku would struggle with him as well? Or when he said Mahito's stats gained a 200% increase (and an even further one in durability thanks to a BV) compared to his Base who was already above Shibuya Yuji? Yuji proceeds to keep up with Yuta in stats like 10 chapters after this.

Did Gege mean for Hanami to be fodder that gets killed by any HH's punch when he glazed her durability even in the culling games, or when he had Gojo kick her without leaving any damage? The anime even adds to this by having her get knocked back by the hit, showing it was a powerful one.

Ok yeah Dagon can't really keep up, but he's also not a perception blitz below any heavy hitters considering that he reacts to Toji multiple times.

Why is it so hard to accept this? Not just the DCs but characters like Muta too. If you're not in the culling games you don't deserve to be strong?

Just saw the opposite take and felt like addressing it.

The most stupid arg of all time that relies on completely misenterpreting Jogo's kit and stats + nerfing his BIQ so that Fodderya can win.

I don't even agree with this, but it's hilarious so I had to post it

Look at the statement. To debunk common counter args:

"It's 2x not 3x" 200% stronger means 100% + 200%, so it is indeed 3x, simple math. Yes I've had to discuss even this before

"Mahito would have demolished Yuji if this was true" yeah the same statement says "if Yuji hadn't hit black flash, Mahito would have TORN HIM TO SHREDS". In the first part of the fight we see Mahito smiling like a maniac and easily diverting all of Yuji's attacks, he then grabs Yuji before he can react and slams him on the ground. Only AFTER that he feels the effects of black flash, and his blades break. He was so damaged that HIS BODY FELL APART.

"Yuji only notes an increase in toughness" the statement then says that his durability is further amplified by the "no changing shape" binding vow

Nekomaru >!(human form)!< or Juzo from DR3.

Idk why people just blatantly lie about this fight, is it to make Toji look stronger or to make the DCs look weaker?

Toji low diffed Dagon for sure, but he didn't blitz him at all. We see Dagon explicitly react (in the manga, this page is the one in which Dagon says Toji is getting faster, and never says it again, so Toji is at full speed from here on out)

This bum is barely top 10, if at all, and yet people act like she deserves to be in the top 5. I'm glad the sub is waking up. Yuki is THE most vibe scaled character in the OG series.

Why didn't she kill Kenjaku once she was healed?

Why was an offguard her only strong attack on Kenjaku?

Where are her other feats for durability and speed?

Yuki's agenda relies on mfs outright lying and vibescaling + believing that the opponents will stand still (Jogo, Maki and Yorozu can fucking fly, why can Yuki just run up to them and punch them?)

If she was ugly she wouldn't be in any top 5s.

Based on only raw strength and NOT fighting prowess

I'm likely wrong about some of these

Also Seiko is juiced up but Akane isn't

Kirumi: Could immediately take control of Japan

Miu: Pretty much like Kazuichi she could invent a lot of dangerous stuff

Gonta: If he's anything like Gundham and can at least train insects (seems fair since they didn't attack him during the Meet and Greet) then he's extremely lethal

Keebo: We saw how dangerous they can be with the right upgrades

Maki: Self explanatory, I think

Kokichi: The Ultimate Supreme Leader should be pretty good at, y'know, leading

Ryoma: Can kill a lot of people considering his backstory

Tenko: Mostly just there for her fighting prowess

Kiyo: I'd be surprised if he didn't perfectly know every single way to induce despair in every age and culture. Also he's an actual serial killer so he's experienced

Angie: Cult leader but restricted to her island. Could be higher since she's so convincing

The others are all vibes

I think I'll like this sub, Jogo's my favorite character and I used to be his biggest glazer in powerscaling

Modulo Yuji can be pushed down below Gojo and Sukuna if we prioritize feats

HRs, DCs and Yuta are all interchangeable but having Yuta closer to Hakari felt better

Hanami and Uraume are interchangeable

Todo Muta and Kuro are in a weird rock paper scissors so they are interchangeable too