u/leakinprogress

Rain Down South, A Storm Up North | Incontinence and the Mental Game
▲ 23 r/IncontinenceAdvocacy+6 crossposts

Rain Down South, A Storm Up North | Incontinence and the Mental Game

Many people who are fully continent do not realize how much mental freedom they possess simply by trusting their bodies by default.

Many people with incontinence go to great lengths to keep waste inside the body. This can be through medication, procedures, physical therapies, and more. Each of those has its time and place, its risks and benefits, its practicality and impracticality. The routine becomes obsessive when each leak is seen as a moral failure. The routine becomes destructive when the risks of such things are accepted far out of proportion to the original ailment.

Comfort and the ability to trust a diaper or other tool are decisions about self-compassion and about taking control of how they affect your day. We humans only have so much emotional bandwidth, tolerance, and frankly, time and energy to spend. If an incontinence-avoidance routine is taking energy away from other aspects of life, the ethical question is: "Is all of this worth it?"

I'm an autistic 27M with a varied history of continence. When I was growing up, my parents saw accidents as a failure worth shaming me for. I ruined mattresses, skipped outings with friends, dreaded travel, and made all of these insignificant rules for myself to follow. No drinking before bed became no drinking after dinner. Then, no fluids after 4 pm... on to drinking the bare minimum to sustain life. I had constant headaches, body cramps, and eventually a kidney stone at 23. I tried many incontinence products when I left for college, and diapers did the job the best. All of a sudden, I was sleeping much better. My body felt great, and I had so much more energy to focus on classes. Still, the cost I paid by doing the bare minimum to keep myself dry was that I was still rationing, but with the added mental load of a diaper on top of it all. What was a relief in having a backup option instead became a site of renewed rule-making, because I never felt justified in trusting the tool to do the job it was tasked with.

I see now that the physical management of incontinence is the main focus of most discussion, but alleviating the mental and emotional weight is also a true source of relief.

We first associate with stigma. The 'what would they think?' questions do real damage to us, and obsessing over a reaction forces more invisible labor on us. We are so lost in that doom spiral that we don't see that very few people are even checking for protection. And if something is visible, would someone genuinely know it was a diaper? The people who can actually notice the subtle signs often know them because of proximity, either through their own use of protection or use amongst close friends and loved ones. Those are not the people who will judge, as they understand it.

We can so quickly obsess over whether a diaper is printing through the trousers, if a catheter's drainage bag is sticking out of a pant leg, or if a waistband could show itself. I was consciously monitoring my movement to an extreme degree. If I dropped something, I would force myself to bend at the knees instead of at the hip. Sometimes I would stand with my hands in my pockets to sort of tent out the fabric a bit. Looking in a mirror, I could see a major difference with a diaper on, but the people around me never blinked. Perhaps I had some unusually supportive friends, but I think our concept of "noticeable" is much higher than others'.

When we live in a leaky body, it can be hard to find self-compassion and acceptance. These costs build over time and can set our nervous system on fire. Mental health can fluctuate wildly.

The following set of opinions is perhaps a bit radical, but I do think we should consider them in our own contexts. The goal isn't to hide our incontinence from the world but to truly live comfortably within the world as an incontinent person. Here are my thoughts:

  • There are no rules around diaper use that outweigh comfort. You may use the diaper as you see fit. You (or perhaps insurance) did pay for them, after all. You don't even have to give them back when you're done.
  • Diaper use is not 'cheating' or a failure, but a choice with minimal consequence. Change on time, clean up well, and care for the skin. A good product makes it that much easier.
  • Your protection doesn't require a total, unstoppable lack of control to be used in a valid way. The decision is yours and no one else's, even if you technically could have 'made it' in time.
  • Healthcare providers may not understand seeking comfort over control. That is a failure of the system, not your judgment.
  • The choice of protection needs to be made to cover what your body needs over what your discretion wants. Hardly anyone can see a diaper outline at a glance and know what it is, but everyone knows what wet pants look like.
  • If you are leaking, upgrade your protection before downgrading your hydration.
  • Fecal incontinence doesn't exclude you from doing the things you love, especially out of the house. Cleanup may be a chore, but that's more of an issue of inaccessible restrooms than anything else. You deserve to have a functional changing routine and a go-bag with more than just the bare minimum. Pack some snacks and a chapstick or other body care items that can bring comfort after a change.
  • Telling a potential partner doesn't always go smoothly, but doing so early shows if they love *you* and not simply your image. Incontinence isn't a dealbreaker for the right people. Source: I'm a married guy. It worked out; my husband helped me unpack my restock shipment this week.
  • Incontinence is a great topic for therapy, should you have access to it.
  • Community is beyond important. It's one thing to know you're not alone, but it is another to have a friend you don't need to keep a secret around. Finding fellow incontinent people is difficult, but it could be much easier if the topic of incontinence were sparked by you and me rather than hoping someone else does it.
  • Finally, if the diaper is already being worn for protection, the decision to stop fighting the body every single time is not morally wrong. There is a difference between continence and constant vigilance. Some incontinent folks reach a point where forcing themselves to “hold it” every single time becomes more physically and psychologically exhausting than simply using the protection they are already wearing. That decision is not laziness, regression, or failure, but an adaptive choice about energy, comfort, stress, and quality of life. Only you living in your body can properly weigh those costs.

I think many incontinent people spend years trying to earn permission to exist comfortably in their own body. You do not need permission to hydrate properly, travel, rest, or to trust a medical tool to do the job it was designed to do. Perhaps the real mental shift is understanding that our worth was never tied to perfect continence in the first place.

A leak is not a moral event, and relying on a diaper or other incontinence aid is not a moral failure. A body in need of support is still a body deserving comfort, dignity, and a full life.

If the mental weight of incontinence, isolation, shame, disability, or exhaustion has started to become too heavy to carry alone, support exists even if things do not feel like an immediate crisis.

United States and Canada: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline
Call or text 988
24/7 support for emotional distress, suicidal thoughts, burnout, disability overwhelm, or simply needing someone to talk to.
Website: 988 Lifeline

LGBTQ+ youth-focused support: The Trevor Project
Call: 1-866-488-7386
Text “START” to 678678
24/7 crisis and emotional support for LGBTQ+ young people, especially around isolation, identity, shame, and mental health.
Website: The Trevor Project

United Kingdom and Ireland: Samaritans
Call 116 123
24/7 confidential emotional support for anyone struggling, overwhelmed, or needing someone to listen.
Website: Samaritans

International: Befrienders Worldwide
Global directory of emotional support and suicide prevention hotlines by country.
Website: Befrienders Worldwide

You do not need to be “bad enough,” actively suicidal, or in total crisis to deserve support.

u/leakinprogress — 18 hours ago

An Introduction, Passionate Advocacy Rant, and Stigma-busting Around Incontinence | Autism Edition

Greetings, fellow autistic people, friends, allies, family, and caregivers! I am one of those autistic guys who has a huge sense of justice and near total disregard for useless social stigma. I decided to lean into some of the advocacy work that is just hard to talk about, especially around incontinence.

Autism and incontinence are very linked, but not necessarily from a physical control standpoint. Dull enteroception - the sense of feeling inside the body like hunger, thirst, pain, temperature, fatigue, etc. - leaves many of us in a space where control over bladder and bowel can come and go. Changing routines, traveling, going to college, and new jobs can all flip a delicate system without much warning. Daytime or nighttime issues with continence may start, stop, change over time, be more or less intense, a fluid system of feelings that don't seem to fit any mold.

If you find yourself skipping events, restricting food and water, scanning for bathrooms (and not just any bathroom, but one that is tolerable to use), worrying about how you will ask the stranger in the aisle seat of a plane to move, losing focus on conversations/class/work because of the mental effort to stay dry, this might be a discussion to you.

Managing incontinence isn't just for those who have no control; an ecosystem of routines and physical assistance that prioritizes health and energy management can make existing in this intense world much more bearable. It isn't an issue of capability; you may very well be able to hold it, but at what cost? And who pays that cost? It's us.

If this hits home for you, please know you are not alone. And this is not your fault nor a failure. This is part of the experience for many of us, and there is so much more to enjoy with a plan rooted in self-understanding and compassion. I posted this originally in r/incontienence which is a wonderful place to get genuine help if you are looking.

Please feel free to reach out to me in the comments or messages if you'd like to talk further. Starting the conversation is tough, but holding internal shame is tougher.

______________

Hey, all. Long-time lurker here that has gotten so much from the open discussions and questions answered. I decided it's time to join in on the fun! Life has recently brought me into individual disability advocacy and discussion that is seeing real change in institutions. I am grateful to be doing work that is so closely tied to dignity and ease of access - especially in ways that I am quite familiar with. Incontinence is one of those things.

A bit of backstory: I'm a guy in my 20s. Urinary incontinence has been something I've dealt with for as long as I can remember. 3-4 wet beds a week, a constant dribble, and a few surprise voids during the day. I don't know the cause of all this medically, but I think it has to do with my (diagnosed) autism. I can't really feel my body most of the time. No hunger, thirst, tiredness, or sense of a full bladder. Combine that with a nervous system that sometimes just sorta does its own thing, and you get a recipe for leaking.

Home life was a bit of a nightmare, and part of that was specifically refusing to use any management tools to keep me dry and comfortable. Beds were left wet for days, and I was adapting my wardrobe to cover the evidence. I tried wearing multiple pairs of underwear, putting a bunch of toilet paper in the front of my underwear, and even some menstrual pads when I could find some. I would sometimes sleep with a towel and plastic grocery bags to stay dry through the night. I missed so much rest and events out of fear of being wet.

I finally took management into my own hands when I went to college. I felt (and still sorta feel) a bunch of guilt because I -could- hold it, but it took all of my attention to maintain. Conversations would fade into the background, and friends would be pushed aside. I tried a bunch of different management tools, from condom catheters to just not drinking anything. I gave myself a kidney stone at 23 after years of skipping hydration to stay dry. I finally settled on diapers because they worked. It took me a long time to discover the brands that really did the job well.

With this management routine, I find peace and comfort. I can effectively turn that worry way down knowing I'm safe if anything were to happen. I sleep better, can focus on tasks, and do more of the things I enjoy. I can even say yes to spontaneous things! All of that comes from something as simple as wearing a diaper. I started actively looking for people like me who shared this experience, and now I have a small cohort of friends to talk with. That, too, is very freeing and comforting. People who get it are so important.

Perhaps this is the autism talking, but I find the social taboo around incontinence to be a total waste of time. The often-negative, awkward reaction overwhelms the subject. I have spent money on clothes that hide leaks and diaper imprints, used protection that was far too small for the task out of discretion, and walk around with this sense of impostor syndrome. But, I wasn't doing that for others, I was doing it for myself.

Incontinence exacts a cost, literally and figuratively. Outings need planning and preparation, changing facilities may be difficult to find, and the supplies need to be carried. Spare diapers, a change of clothes, and a few go bags stashed in places I frequent. If public restrooms had incontinence in mind, I think this could be quite easy and seamless. Learning that parents or caregivers end up having to choose between the floor of a dirty bathroom or the back seat of the car for diaper changes was very upsetting. At that point, it is easy to see how leaving the house at all is a chore.

I dropped my 9-5 job a year ago to pursue disability advocacy, creating spaces of belonging, and translating to stakeholders in the community /why/ accessibility is important. Many places see accessibility as having an elevator. But access doesn't mean dignity or ease. I have been working with youth and adults and incontinence is very common. I've been able to set the tone of my space so that you don't have to hide it for others' comfort, and I really think this can be replicated in other public spaces. If we had the infrastructure to support bodies that do not work on the same schedule as others, that visibility itself would lower stigma as the supports are normalized. I've started to really push for this, and I am finding that community spaces and businesses are willing to overhaul bathrooms (if the funds are there),

I have much more on my mind, but I'll leave it here for now. I'd love to know your story and where you see opportunities to advocate. I'll be bringing these ideas forward as I do my work. I'm not ready to connect my name and public persona to this quite yet, but there really is a good amount of institutional interest at a nationwide (USA) level.

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u/leakinprogress — 3 days ago

An Introduction, Passionate Advocacy Rant, and Stigma-busting Around Incontinence | Autism Edition

Greetings, fellow autistic people, friends, allies, family, and caregivers! I am one of those autistic guys who has a huge sense of justice and near total disregard for useless social stigma. I decided to lean into some of the advocacy work that is just hard to talk about, especially around incontinence.

Autism and incontinence are very linked, but not necessarily from a physical control standpoint. Dull enteroception - the sense of feeling inside the body like hunger, thirst, pain, temperature, fatigue, etc. - leaves many of us in a space where control over bladder and bowel can come and go. Changing routines, traveling, going to college, and new jobs can all flip a delicate system without much warning. Daytime or nighttime issues with continence may start, stop, change over time, be more or less intense, a fluid system of feelings that don't seem to fit any mold.

If you find yourself skipping events, restricting food and water, scanning for bathrooms (and not just any bathroom, but one that is tolerable to use), worrying about how you will ask the stranger in the aisle seat of a plane to move, losing focus on conversations/class/work because of the mental effort to stay dry, this might be a discussion to you.

Managing incontinence isn't just for those who have no control; an ecosystem of routines and physical assistance that prioritizes health and energy management can make existing in this intense world much more bearable. It isn't an issue of capability; you may very well be able to hold it, but at what cost? And who pays that cost? It's us.

If this hits home for you, please know you are not alone. And this is not your fault nor a failure. This is part of the experience for many of us, and there is so much more to enjoy with a plan rooted in self-understanding and compassion. I posted this originally in r/incontienence which is a wonderful place to get genuine help if you are looking.

Please feel free to reach out to me in the comments or messages if you'd like to talk further. Starting the conversation is tough, but holding internal shame is tougher.

______________

Hey, all. Long-time lurker here that has gotten so much from the open discussions and questions answered. I decided it's time to join in on the fun! Life has recently brought me into individual disability advocacy and discussion that is seeing real change in institutions. I am grateful to be doing work that is so closely tied to dignity and ease of access - especially in ways that I am quite familiar with. Incontinence is one of those things.

A bit of backstory: I'm a guy in my 20s. Urinary incontinence has been something I've dealt with for as long as I can remember. 3-4 wet beds a week, a constant dribble, and a few surprise voids during the day. I don't know the cause of all this medically, but I think it has to do with my (diagnosed) autism. I can't really feel my body most of the time. No hunger, thirst, tiredness, or sense of a full bladder. Combine that with a nervous system that sometimes just sorta does its own thing, and you get a recipe for leaking.

Home life was a bit of a nightmare, and part of that was specifically refusing to use any management tools to keep me dry and comfortable. Beds were left wet for days, and I was adapting my wardrobe to cover the evidence. I tried wearing multiple pairs of underwear, putting a bunch of toilet paper in the front of my underwear, and even some menstrual pads when I could find some. I would sometimes sleep with a towel and plastic grocery bags to stay dry through the night. I missed so much rest and events out of fear of being wet.

I finally took management into my own hands when I went to college. I felt (and still sorta feel) a bunch of guilt because I -could- hold it, but it took all of my attention to maintain. Conversations would fade into the background, and friends would be pushed aside. I tried a bunch of different management tools, from condom catheters to just not drinking anything. I gave myself a kidney stone at 23 after years of skipping hydration to stay dry. I finally settled on diapers because they worked. It took me a long time to discover the brands that really did the job well.

With this management routine, I find peace and comfort. I can effectively turn that worry way down knowing I'm safe if anything were to happen. I sleep better, can focus on tasks, and do more of the things I enjoy. I can even say yes to spontaneous things! All of that comes from something as simple as wearing a diaper. I started actively looking for people like me who shared this experience, and now I have a small cohort of friends to talk with. That, too, is very freeing and comforting. People who get it are so important.

Perhaps this is the autism talking, but I find the social taboo around incontinence to be a total waste of time. The often-negative, awkward reaction overwhelms the subject. I have spent money on clothes that hide leaks and diaper imprints, used protection that was far too small for the task out of discretion, and walk around with this sense of impostor syndrome. But, I wasn't doing that for others, I was doing it for myself.

Incontinence exacts a cost, literally and figuratively. Outings need planning and preparation, changing facilities may be difficult to find, and the supplies need to be carried. Spare diapers, a change of clothes, and a few go bags stashed in places I frequent. If public restrooms had incontinence in mind, I think this could be quite easy and seamless. Learning that parents or caregivers end up having to choose between the floor of a dirty bathroom or the back seat of the car for diaper changes was very upsetting. At that point, it is easy to see how leaving the house at all is a chore.

I dropped my 9-5 job a year ago to pursue disability advocacy, creating spaces of belonging, and translating to stakeholders in the community /why/ accessibility is important. Many places see accessibility as having an elevator. But access doesn't mean dignity or ease. I have been working with youth and adults and incontinence is very common. I've been able to set the tone of my space so that you don't have to hide it for others' comfort, and I really think this can be replicated in other public spaces. If we had the infrastructure to support bodies that do not work on the same schedule as others, that visibility itself would lower stigma as the supports are normalized. I've started to really push for this, and I am finding that community spaces and businesses are willing to overhaul bathrooms (if the funds are there),

I have much more on my mind, but I'll leave it here for now. I'd love to know your story and where you see opportunities to advocate. I'll be bringing these ideas forward as I do my work. I'm not ready to connect my name and public persona to this quite yet, but there really is a good amount of institutional interest at a nationwide (USA) level.

reddit.com
u/leakinprogress — 3 days ago
▲ 38 r/AdultBedwetting+6 crossposts

An Introduction, Passionate Advocacy Rant, and Stigma-busting Around Incontinence

Hey, all. Long-time lurker here that has gotten so much from the open discussions and questions answered. I decided it's time to join in on the fun! Life has recently brought me into individual disability advocacy and discussion that is seeing real change in institutions. I am grateful to be doing work that is so closely tied to dignity and ease of access - especially in ways that I am quite familiar with. Incontinence is one of those things.

A bit of backstory: I'm a guy in my 20s. Urinary incontinence has been something I've dealt with for as long as I can remember. 3-4 wet beds a week, a constant dribble, and a few surprise voids during the day. I don't know the cause of all this medically, but I think it has to do with my (diagnosed) autism. I can't really feel my body most of the time. No hunger, thirst, tiredness, or sense of a full bladder. Combine that with a nervous system that sometimes just sorta does its own thing, and you get a recipe for leaking.

Home life was a bit of a nightmare, and part of that was specifically refusing to use any management tools to keep me dry and comfortable. Beds were left wet for days, and I was adapting my wardrobe to cover the evidence. I tried wearing multiple pairs of underwear, putting a bunch of toilet paper in the front of my underwear, and even some menstrual pads when I could find some. I would sometimes sleep with a towel and plastic grocery bags to stay dry through the night. I missed so much rest and events out of fear of being wet.

I finally took management into my own hands when I went to college. I felt (and still sorta feel) a bunch of guilt because I -could- hold it, but it took all of my attention to maintain. Conversations would fade into the background, and friends would be pushed aside. I tried a bunch of different management tools, from condom catheters to just not drinking anything. I gave myself a kidney stone at 23 after years of skipping hydration to stay dry. I finally settled on diapers because they worked. It took me a long time to discover the brands that really did the job well.

With this management routine, I find peace and comfort. I can effectively turn that worry way down knowing I'm safe if anything were to happen. I sleep better, can focus on tasks, and do more of the things I enjoy. I can even say yes to spontaneous things! All of that comes from something as simple as wearing a diaper. I started actively looking for people like me who shared this experience, and now I have a small cohort of friends to talk with. That, too, is very freeing and comforting. People who get it are so important.

Perhaps this is the autism talking, but I find the social taboo around incontinence to be a total waste of time. The often-negative, awkward reaction overwhelms the subject. I have spent money on clothes that hide leaks and diaper imprints, used protection that was far too small for the task out of discretion, and walk around with this sense of impostor syndrome. But, I wasn't doing that for others, I was doing it for myself.

Incontinence exacts a cost, literally and figuratively. Outings need planning and preparation, changing facilities may be difficult to find, and the supplies need to be carried. Spare diapers, a change of clothes, and a few go bags stashed in places I frequent. If public restrooms had incontinence in mind, I think this could be quite easy and seamless. Learning that parents or caregivers end up having to choose between the floor of a dirty bathroom or the back seat of the car for diaper changes was very upsetting. At that point, it is easy to see how leaving the house at all is a chore.

I dropped my 9-5 job a year ago to pursue disability advocacy, creating spaces of belonging, and translating to stakeholders in the community /why/ accessibility is important. Many places see accessibility as having an elevator. But access doesn't mean dignity or ease. I have been working with youth and adults and incontinence is very common. I've been able to set the tone of my space so that you don't have to hide it for others' comfort, and I really think this can be replicated in other public spaces. If we had the infrastructure to support bodies that do not work on the same schedule as others, that visibility itself would lower stigma as the supports are normalized. I've started to really push for this, and I am finding that community spaces and businesses are willing to overhaul bathrooms (if the funds are there),

I have much more on my mind, but I'll leave it here for now. I'd love to know your story and where you see opportunities to advocate. I'll be bringing these ideas forward as I do my work. I'm not ready to connect my name and public persona to this quite yet, but there really is a good amount of institutional interest at a nationwide (USA) level.

reddit.com
u/leakinprogress — 4 days ago