u/occasional_account

There's plenty of guilters trying to spread addition misinformation stating Michael was misogynistic and narcissistic. Now I know these are lies, as I've heard countless stories about what a gentlemen he was and how humble he kept himself even as the most famous person ever. But I didn't save any of those sources because I didn't think anyone would try to say these things about Michael, for now I've just been saying everyone can dislike a certain person, or a certain group, and some might be woman, some might be men, you don't have to like every woman in order to not be misogynist, and that everyone is allowed to feel proud of themselves at times and celebrate what they're accomplished and feel good, but obviously this doesn't work well on those people, sources don't do much either but at least it stops anyone else from believing their lies

I remember a time where my biggest hot take was that MJ is innocent, thankfully now I feel like that's a pretty cold take, maybe it's just the people I surround myself with but most people I know think he's innocent now, online is a big can of worms though, there's huge corners of the innocent who know he's innocent and huge corners who think he's guilty, but i feel like in general places of the internet that aren't strictly supporting or against him, more people think he's innocent, anyone else feel like we've reached the majority or do you still think we're pretty small compared to guilters? Or maybe it's a 50/50

They love to call everything that goes against their points "fans myths" like, "the books" they love to bring up so much, if you say that there's proof at one was a gift from a fan and neither have any evidence he looked beyond the cover, that's a "fan myth"

If you tell them Jordon's description did not match and if it did it would've been used in a court of law and MJ would have been convicted, that's a "fan myth"

As if we just made all this information up to protect Michael because we're fans and ignore any sources handed to them to show that these are documented and not just conquered up by us

I am so fucking annoyed and pissed about Michael Jackson, a man who has literally nothing strong against him, is called such a horrific pedophile, while Elvis, a man almost as huge as him in the states at least (i don't believe he's as known worldwide like Michael is, but it's hard to say they're aren't near at least here when they're the only two artists in the world that serveal people make a living off of impersonation them) a man who has ACTUAL viable evidence, that he's a fucking pedophilic weirdo, isn't. It's not even up for debate this shit is literally documented. Yet you don't hear SHIT about it when talking about Elvis, but 95% of Michael conversations are "isn't he a pedophile?" Or at least addressing the allegations. Also big thing, people love to call Michael a drug addict just because his autopsy was listed as an overdose and the tabloids RAN with it instead of saying how he was FUCKING MURDERED by his doctor, so many people are unaware of this fact, he was even CHARGED for God's sake yet no one except huge fans know about this. But Elvis, who was fucking ADDICTED to his prescriptions is never called a drug addict, Elvis was trying to get high on his prescription, Michael just wanted some damn sleep. And all of this DEFINITELY because Michael was a black man and Elvis wasn't, it pisses me off so fucking much.

Not saying it will, just that I'm annoyed by all the people who didn't watch/hated the first film because it "didn't address the allegations" as if they didn't want to. So when part 2 drops i better see all those people rushing towards the theaters just like the fans because it WILL address them, not as much as they wanted too but still, sadly however I know the chances of this are actually low because all those people are hypocrites who don't give a damn if the movie actually addressed it or not, I even had a former guilter friend of mines watch it and say it's great and doesn't understand why people are so butthurt about this, so I highly doubt it actually will gross more, I'll stay hopeful though! Also I didn't know whether to tag this as opinion or discussion so apologies if I end up picking the wrong one

There's this one gif of Michael where he leans in and with his hand on his ear and once he hears what he's being told he's just politely goes like "no..." or something like that, it's very funny and I find myself wanting to use it a lot but can never find it, does anyone here have it or know here to find it? Thanks in advance!

Apologies for invading, I don't believe what you guys do but I promise I'm not here to troll or argue, I'm just here because I think you guys believe the way you do because the majority of defending are terrible at explaining and proving, most say "oh, he was never convicted!" Or "He was just a kid at heart" which, as much as I agree, are terrible points, Yes MJ was never convicted but evil people get away with evil stuff all the time, and there's certainly real pedophiles out there saying the exact same thing about them being kids at heart to justify their horrible actions.

So, instead I just want you guys to read at least one article saying he's innocent, even if while you're reading you just go "Oh, bullshit!" The whole time, it's always great to challenge your views, if you keep reading stuff agreeing with you then you won't understand anyone saying anything different, I used to believe Michael was guilty too but now I don't at all, so even if your views won't chance, challenge your belief! That's all i want to say, thank you for reading.