



I feel like I've been waiting so long for this to actually come out. So happy to have it.
Alright. So more than a few times when the subject of Vox getting a redemption arc comes up I see people say they don't want this because they want him to stay the villain. People will talk about wanting everything about him to remain the same, but why do people even want him to be a static character? The entire show is built around character development. Why deny a character you say you like the opportunity to grow? I understand people resist change, but him developing doesn't have to come at the expense of who he is. There's more to him than his capacity for violence and cruelty, or I at least think there's more. I just don't see what is so appealing about holding a character back like this.
It's my birthday and these are my gifts. I'm so happy. The only one I haven't seen yet is Network, very excited to see that. Very excited to rewatch His Girl Friday too.
I'm not saying people need to love her arc in season 2 or she's removed from criticism. It's just crazy when people correctly draw attention to Vox being insecure, thin skinned, and needy and then give her no slack for acting the same way. Plenty of Vox fans agree with me when I describe him as her foil, yet Charlie is somehow expected to not be affected by those flaws they have in common. The biggest difference between them is Charlie tries to manage this through trying to help others and be kind (and she never killed anyone), but people act like she needs to be this holy mother who never screws up. In a way it reminds me of certain fans that act like Vox's flaws mean he's stupid or incompetent when they're just part of what makes him human. Just give her a break.
I'm still annoyed this moment amounted to nothing. What was the point? Anyway.
Given how important Vox, Charlie, and Alastor are to the show, and how they're all in each other's business, it surprises me that we only got one scene of them together. And it sucked. My problems with the season 2 finale aside, I think as a trio they're really unexplored in and out of the show. I know I'm the one always complaining about Radiostatic, well I will admit placing Charlie in their mess does make it more interesting. People don't seem to like when I say that, but I mean it. From many angles there's untapped potential. Alastor and Charlie didn't have a conversation this season until the finale. Vox in an ideal world should have had his relationships with both get treated with the same level of importance. Charlie should have opinions on their weird beef considering she was dragged in the middle of it against her will. Honestly just the sheer fact that it puts Alastor in between two very similar personalities is interesting in itself. He's surrounded! Or he would be if they got to all interact together some more.
Yeah that's the post. If it makes everyone feel better I know this won't happen. It's very obvious it won't, but man it could be so interesting.
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I'm sick of this. Wanting to see a more nuanced Vox doesn't mean I'm in denial he's a villain. And wanting him to make smarter moves in the back half of season 2 doesn't mean I want him to be perfect and win at everything. But a happy ad hominem to you too I guess.
Went to B&N not expecting to find much as this location doesn't sell a lot of movies. And what do you know! When they announced they'd be bringing Life of Brian back I knew I'd get it. Love that movie, very happy to upgrade from my standard bluray. Hairspray I haven't seen in years, but I know I liked it a lot. Looking forward to seeing it again. And Desparate Living is a rare blind buy for me. Usually I buy movies I've already seen, my last blind purchase was years ago. And I figured why not, I like other films from Waters and wanted to see it anyway.
The only relationships he has that matter in any way are the other Vees and Alastor, but he's not his friend so he doesn't count. I don't think I'm asking for too much here, just let him have someone else to talk to.
I don't know the source, sorry.
I have to say I'm surprised Y Tu Mama Tambien wasn't included in that Odyssey collection on the channel this month. I'm also surprised it's currently out of print. Or I should say out of print unless you're willing to buy that beefy box set, and maybe you are. It's definitely one you shouldn't neglect if you do own CC40 and haven't seen it. It's an amazing film, Gael Garcia Bernal was right about it being something that makes you wanna go live. It's also a very emotional film. For how sexy and funny it is the film has a lot of substance. Hopefully Criterion gives it a 4K release in the future.
Moonlight and The Handmaiden aren't part of the collection, but I want them to be. I love these films and can't believe they're now a decade old. Time really does fly. These are easily some of the most beautiful films I've seen and encourage seeing them if you can. The Handmaiden is in my letterboxd top 4 and basically had me in a chokehold for 10 years. Moonlight is one of my favorite Best Picture winners. If it doesn't already have a 4K disc it definitely deserves one.
I'm not sure I have anything to say that I haven't said before, but I need to get these stupid ships out of my face. God. I've reached a point where I can't tolerate them anymore. Like people DO know Vox's character exists outside their toxic yaoi, right? He doesn't revolve around Alastor and Valentino. He's not their accessory. His arc going forward shouldn't just about his relationships with these assholes. I want this to be done, but its never done is it?
The promise of more Radiostatic has just broken something in me. I can't even be bothered to make this look like an analysis post, I'm just annoyed.
So something that's always bothered me about season 2 is how it approached certain political topics through Vox. The blunt fascist references in Vox Populi and Vox Dei really take me out. Not only is it just not very clever word play, it feels strange with his character. I am not saying Vox is this very progressive guy, he IS a capitalist, but he is still meant to be forward thinking. Or at least forward thinking enough where I just don't buy the idea of him as a stand in for figures like Trump. Whatever internalized 1950s shit he has going on I just don't think of him like this. I remember Viv's weird tweets after the last election where she gave away what they'd be doing with Vox. That always felt odd to me because she made it seem like it was all accidental despite literally giving him lines like "make Hell great again". Regardless this all feels rather insisted upon. I'm trying to think of the best way to say this without sounding like I'm desperately trying to soften Vox. I just think forcing these fascist ideas onto him has always felt strange. The references are brief and superficial so if you just rewrote them then I don't really think you'd draw this conclusion. Unfortunately its all there and fans don't forget it. It's likely a big reason why so many people are unsympathetic towards Vox and think he's the most evil character in the show. And if only it was just this in terms of the strange politics with his character.
I've been saying it's a missed opportunity to not center season 2 on Charlie and Vox in a bigger way. One big area that this sticks out in is actually Vox's entire motivation. I think it could have been so interesting if instead of Vox lying about wanting to empower sinners he actually meant it. Have him do a lot of the same things, berate the angels, discredit the hotel, kidnap Lucifer, blow up the gates, but have it come from a place that isn't a self serving lie. Vox actually makes good arguments during season 2, but because he doesn't mean any of it the show is basically saying not to put value in them. He literally sings about being the consequence to Heaven's actions, but he's right. And it applies just as well to Lucifer too. Look, objectively speaking Lucifer is an awful king. I like his character, but he is a bad king. Even if Lilith ran everything and was behind the caste system developing or other key problems in Hell, his decision not to do anything still makes him a bad leader. I get it, he's depressed, had his powers stunted, and never wanted this in the first place. He's still responsible for an entire realm of people who he failed though. Per Charlie he approved the exterminations and he has yet to show remorse for that. The choice not to act is still in fact a choice, that's literally why Pentious went to Hell. If nobody in charge is providing a solution and even approved your own suffering then of coarse you'll flock to the first guy that says he'll do something about it.
How much stronger would this have been if Vox was just fed up with Lucifer and the monarchy and decided to take matters into his own hands? Not purely out of selfishness, but because he hates what is happening and believed he could actually do things a better way. Then you could have the clash between him and Charlie be about a difference in how they approach the same problem. Her pacifism verses his revolution. Charlie could truly be challenged on her methods, something Adam could have done but didn't. This could have been a very mature and fascinating way to further her and Vox as foils. That isn't what we got though. Everything Vox said was just bullshit to sway the public so he could advance his own selfish goals and become God. He didn't mean any of it so I guess we don't need to take any of that seriously beyond the fact that it hurt Charlie's feelings for a week. And even there we see him use hypnosis on the public which just undermines the need to do all this in the first place. I know Vox is a selfish character, but he's a character. His actions are choices being made by writers and I think it could have been great if they wrote him like this. He doesn't need to be totally wholesome in this scenario, him assuming he's right to lead entire realms still speaks to his own arrogance. You could still have him pushing the other Vees away or being aggressive in how he handles Charlie. You could still make him spiral and come away with the message that he lost control in the end, done in by his own hubris. There are ways I think this could work while still keeping his characterization in mind, but its not what they did and the message I take from the real story is really unpleasant to me.
The implication that armed resistance is immoral and a tool used by charlatans to lead people into fascism is a terrible message. And if I'm not to take that away from season 2 then why make Vox be the only one promoting resistance just for it to be complete bullshit? What else am I supposed to think of this? Charlie harps on about how wrong he is, but never interrogates why the public would even choose that option over redemption. Him standing up to the angels is presented as menacing and that we should feel bad for them. The sinners are quite literally brainwashed by Vox. It's obvious the show pushes non violence a lot. Just look at how Lute was shot down by Emily for wanting to retaliate against Vox's declaration of war. Lute is actually correct that they can't let this happen and do nothing, but Emily scolds her about how they need to be "the good guys" and the show doesn't challenge this. Yes let's all take leadership advice from Lil Miss Gift Basket. I like Emily, but this was ridiculous. What this tells me is Viv is taking things in a more black and white way than I would like her to. We are still challenged to have empathy for amoral characters, but on complex topics like this it's very simplistic. Sure they give us fight scenes, but the idea of resolving Hell's problems through force definitely feels discouraged. We still need to have the hotel be the real answer. Why else would they associate the concept of fighting back against the system with bad actors only looking out for themselves?
I know, I know, accept that the show has different goals in mind. It doesn't have to do things the way I'd want. I get that. I'm not even sure Viv wants Hazbin Hotel to be dissected like this. Those tweets I was referring to gave me the impression she just isn't thinking of these things in the moment. A lot of the answers we've been getting to burning questions have felt rather small compared to the expectations. Trust me though, I don't like analyzing the show like I am here. I do in fact enjoy watching season 2 and just try not to get too hung up on the politics. It's just not only do I see a major missed opportunity to tell a deeper story, in the end I'm being fed a message that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I don't know what any of this could mean for Vox's future.
This might be my most controversial piece yet. So as the title says, I don't take issue with fanart of Vox hypnotizing Charlie. I honestly like some of it. I know it's a fetish, I know graphic fanart and fanfic of this exists, but majority of the hypno fanart posted to reddit that I've encountered is tame. In these drawings he isn't performing sexual acts on Charlie, she isn't stripped naked, he isn't violent, he isn't even kissing her in the ones I see. And a lot of the time I feel like this art gets reposted to reddit specifically to upset people, which is honestly a mean thing to do to the artists whether they see it or not.
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People get very angry at this fanart and hold it against Staticbelle as a ship, I don't like seeing that. I know the reason it makes people uncomfortable, but there's no need to reduce this ship to one specific kink and guilt fans over it. Especially when some of these artists have made cute art for them that I see shared and reposted all the time. Staticbelle isn't just a dom / sub dark ship, but even if it was largely that I don't think insulting the shippers is productive. Meanwhile I've seen highly sexualized fanart of Vox hypnotizing Alastor and Angel and nobody says a thing. I can't sit here and feign outrage over drawings of Vox draping a hypnotized and fully dressed Charlie in his arms when this same fandom is literally posting Radiostatic rape comics in the main sub. I just can't.
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I wasn't expecting to write about this scene because it's been picked very clean. I think a lot of the posts analyzing it can be tedious. That said it's always been weird to me. Viv really built up this idea that Vox had this brutal backstory to him and I was confused by this being what we got. I get that the point is he was vulnerable and had his feelings wrecked, but I just expected something more. On paper it even sounds like a joke, Alastor didn't want to be Vox's friend and that's why Vox is so mean. I'm simplifying it, but I expected a lot more than this. The scene also plays out weird, at first I didn't know how seriously I should take it. There's this big tonal whiplash of Alastor having the most over the top reaction to his offer and being called his friend to Vox being sad about it seconds later. You literally recreated a meme in this scene and unfortunately Alastor still gets a laugh out of me here. I'm not sure why they couldn't just play it completely serious.
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I sometimes have an awkward time reconciling Vox in this flashback with him in the rest of the show. The implication is he's never been vulnerable with somebody in his entire life. I think that's silly. Yes he was ruthless in life and most likely closed off to keep his secrets, but really? He never felt warmth outside when he was with Alastor? I hate to say this, except no I actually don't, why is Vox so attached to him in the first place? I know why he's obsessed with him in the present, but what was so special about Alastor to him back then? What did he like about him? This is also where things start to slide into this idea I don't like where Alastor is essential to Vox in a way nobody else is. That nobody else matters to him, he will never feel anything like this again because it was just for him. Puke.
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I honestly thought this was an act at first. The little sweater, complimenting him about radios, his self depreciation, the touching. I know it was sincere now, but initially this seemed so jarring I just assumed it was manipulation. I'm not trying to accuse Vox of being fake, I accept this softness is part of who he is, it's just a weird scene to contextualize with the rest of him right now. Brighter exists to reinforce that he was always a villain and he's so messed up in the present that he only ever appears sweet when he baby talks his sharkie. Even when he's alone he doesn't allow himself to be any other way. Yes this speaks to his myriad of issues, but it makes this behavior in the flashback feel like a weird isolated incident. I would like to see something in the future that helps bridge these sides of Vox, I hope we see it. I'm not sure how we'll see it. But I think this weirdness is kinda why I see so many bad reads of the scene, that and people refusing to accept Alastor is a bastard.
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People accuse Vox of wanting to use Alastor to kill him later, of trying to get Alastor drunk, they say he's a bad person so his feelings don't matter, that Alastor did nothing wrong, that Vox is just mad he got told "no". Jeez guys. And its been implied Vox and Alastor remember their relationship differently and I don't like where that seems to be going. I don't want this to have a Rashomon effect. We don't have a reason to doubt the legitimacy of the flashbacks we see, but we're supposed to do it here? And with how the show positions Alastor I dread a flashback for him because I just think it will invalidate Vox. Some people would rather believe Alastor is exposing who Vox really is than believe he's just plain mean. I don't want the show to do anything that leans in that direction. I'm also just really put off by their whole beef and this ship. I say that a lot because it's true. This whole thing became a tumor in season 2 even if I think Alastor was funny during it. The pandering merch and my social media being flooded by it doesn't help either. I want this part of Vox's story to be over, but we all know it won't be.
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