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This post is about Midnight Motorist and me trying to defend Mike couch and BV Runaway... keep in mind, this is in NO way me saying "I am right and you are wrong," just giving my opinion on something that has been in my mind for a while.

BV Runaway has been a theory I have always believed in because it made sense to me, but I was suprised to know it's one of the most hated MM theories out there, people preferring Mike Runaway or even MCI MM over it.

One of the counters for it has always been, it would make the story bad, but not only i have never understood why, but also this... Isn't a counterpoint?

You believing it's bad is understandable, but saying it as an objective fact that there HAS to be another solution doesn't sound optimal to me.

You can simply say, "It will be very dumb," and i can tell you Scott is the same guy who wrote the FNAF 2 movie, so look where that has gotten us

And what makes MM so unique is that the identity of the Runaway is tied to the couch person, which i think is one of the easiest questions to answer, and it's Mike, like think about it:

- gray text (fnaf 4)

- looking after his brother (fnaf 4)

- a bit of loss connection because minigame inconsistency but literally wearing gray clothes (fnaf 4)

- watching TV (SL)

this is why I personally like BV Runaway, because it basically confirms Mike Bro, giving all of foxy bro characterization and tie it with Mike SL habit of watching TV.

I think both Runaway theories can make for a good story, something we already knew but doubled down on.

With mike: its how much his brother death messed him up, how he has always been being eaten up from the inside with guilt, which is a nice touch for this game since he literally kills himself at the end.

With BV: it shows how he is that desperate, leaving his actual home to go to his comfort place in the rain away from his abusive father and brother.

Both are nice in their own way, but i think BV Runaway is better for simply giving couch person more importance and following the evidence for it.

I also wanted to mention, i don't think Charlie witness HAS to be right in order for BV runaway to work, like do i think BV saw Charlie? Yes. Do i think that's what Scott meant as "things are misunderstood in the mind of a child"? No. I think the purple guy secret in FNAF 4 works better in that regard, and Charlie's deaths simply amplified it more.

I finished it... I will say i have a few problems with it, but overall, i agree with like 90 - 95% of it. It's pretty good!

I do think some people won't like it since it does believe in some uhhh not liked theories (at least from what I have seen here) but hey give it a watch since I think the presentation is cool!

2 posts in one day since I am bored lol.

but yeah, Michael Brooks is a character i sometimes see being shoved in theories... like seriously, I go to that one big theory tier list and keep seeing him and like.... does anyone still think he is relevant to the games timeline?

• FNAF 1: August 8, 2014 
• FNAF 2: November 10, 2014 
• FNAF 3: March 2, 2015 
• FNAF 4: July 23, 2015 (Halloween Update: October 30, 2015)
• The Silver Eyes: December 17, 2015 
• FNAF World: January 21, 2016 (Update 2: May 13, 2016)
• FNAF Sister Location: October 7, 2016 (Custom Night Update: December 1, 2016)
• The Twisted Ones: June 27, 2017 
• FNAF The Freddy Files: August 29, 2017 
• FNAF Pizzeria Simulator: December 4, 2017 
• survival logbook: December 26, 2017 
• The Fourth Closet: June 26, 2018 
• Ultimate Custom Night: June 27, 2018 
• Help Wanted 1: May 28, 2019
• FNAF The Freddy Files Updated Edition: June 25, 2019
• Help Wanted 1 Curse Of Dreadbear Update: October 23, 2019
• FNAF AR: November 25, 2019
• Freddy In Space 2: December 3, 2019 
• Fazbear Fright 1: December 26, 2019 
• Fazbear Fright 2: March 3, 2020
• Fazbear Fright 3: May 5, 2020 
• Fazbear Fright 4: July 7, 2020 
• Fazbear Fright 5: September 1, 2020 
• Fazbear Fright 6: December 29, 2020 
• Fazbear Fright 7: March 2, 2021 
• Security Breach fury's rage: April 28, 2021 
• Fazbear Fright 8: May 4, 2021 
• Fazbear Fright 9: July 6, 2021 
• Fazbear Fright 10: September 7, 2021 
• Freddy And Friends On Tour: September 7, 2021 - October 19, 2021 
• Fazbear Fright 11: November 2, 2021 
• FNAF The Ultimate Guide: December 7, 2021 
• FNAF AR Dark Circus: Encore update: December 13, 2021
• Security Breach: December 16, 2021
• Fazbear Fright 12: April 19, 2022
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 1: July 19, 2022 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 2: September 20, 2022 
• Security Breach Files: September 20, 2022 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 3: December 6, 2022 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 4: December 27, 2022 
• FNAF character encyclopedia: February 7, 2023 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 5: March 7, 2023 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 6: May 2, 2023 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 7: July 18, 2023 
• Security Breach Ruin Update: July 25, 2023 
• Tales From The Pizzaplex 8: October 3, 2023 
• Freddy In Space 3 Chica in Space: October 18, 2023 
• FNAF 1 Movie: October 27, 2023 
• Help Wanted 2: December 14, 2023 
• FNAF 1 Movie Novel: December 26, 2023 
• Security Breach Files Updated Edition: April 2, 2024 
• interactive novel 0: August 3, 2024 
• Into The Pit Game: August 7, 2024
• interactive novel 1: September 3, 2024 
• interactive novel 2: December 24, 2024 
• interactive novel 3: April 1, 2025 
• MCM Archive: May 16, 2025 - June 6, 2025 
• Secret Of The Mimic: June 13, 2025 
• dead by daylight collab: June 17, 2025 
• Ticket To Fun: September 23, 2025 
• FNAF The Ultimate Guide 2.0: December 2, 2025 
• FNAF 2 Movie: December 5, 2025 
• FNAF 2 Movie Novel: May 5, 2026

 

as someone who is trying to "solve" the lore by going one thing at a time by release order I thought making this list would be useful and hey maybe others could find it useful too!

I wrote down everything i have seen people use to theorize about this series, so if i missed anything let me know and I will add it or you think something should be removed also tell me about it... and yeah that's all.

I asked this under a post, but I think i could make a post about it to gather more opinions.

So sometimes I keep hearing this argument, and MOST of the time, it's from people who believe theories like Charlie 5h/ BV 5th... or like people who dont believe Cassidy to be her own character.

And I personally never saw it tbh? I think BV, being his own character outside of Cassidy/ Cassidy, existing as her own character, still leaves stuff for BV to do.

- first of all, he is a great motivation for Mike, he clearly still feels guilty for what he had done and redeem himself through helping his sister before getting his HD with both of his siblings (afton HD)

- his memories are used to set the MCI free, this is something that was mentioned a few time in the universe, the idea of someone letting another person experience their memories is mentioned in TSE and Frights (with Jack and Andrew)

- if we want to go to real theorizing territory, he can be vengeful by being the one who tortures Mike with the nightmares.

I feel like he can still be relevant even if he wasn't the receiver/ TOYSNHK, not to mention Cassidy doesn't affect the story that much... like Cassidy being the receiver symbolizes the MCI being set free as a whole, and she isn't confirmed to be TOYSNHK, and again BV can be vengeful through FNAF 4.

But do you guys think?

So what do you guys believe about the hallucinations we encounter through the games... and i mean anything from the first 3 games, the endo looking at us, drawings changing, stuff appears in front of us.

Do you think this is a power only the MCI have, or any supernatural entity can do it (DCI, puppet and springtrap)... or do you think it's not related to the dead people at all.

Let me know what you think.

Finally, I got around to finish reading another chapter of TSE but I gotta ask a question.

Where do you think you should look for the lore in this book, and is it insane to genuinely try to analyze each page of it? 😭

I REALLY want to treat this book as its own thing and appreciate its story and writing, but my fnaf brain keeps analyzing what i feel is useless, unrelated stuff... like no joke, I tried to analyze and think about John's story and link it to the games lore... I can't be helped...

Here is the story if anyone is interested:

“It’s called ‘The Little Yellow House.’ It’s about a boy,” he said. “He’s ten years old. His parents are fighting all the time, and he’s afraid they’re going to get divorced. They fight, and he overhears them saying awful things to each other, and he hides in his room with the door shut, but he can still hear them.

“So he starts looking out the window, at the house across the street. They sort of keep their curtains open just enough that he can glimpse inside. He watches them go in and out of the house, this family, and he starts making up stories about them, imagining who they are and what they do, and after a while they start feeling more real to him than his own family.”

“So summer comes, and his family goes away for a

week, and it’s miserable, and when they get back, the

family in the house across the street has moved away.

There’s nothing left, just a FOR SALE sign hanging in front.”

“That’s the end,”

I made a comment about this in the past, but I figured I could turn this into an actual post where I can explain myself better.

To start off, I think the story of the WR in itself is pretty interesting and good, I liked the idea of manipulating a teenager and giving her a twisted idea on becoming stronger. it's messed up, and this route can be interpreted in many ways.

As someone who always believed the WR won't be Noelle exclusive, I don't think that was a bad thing at all, it was just a different kind of story from what I imagined and I can appreciate the canon WR for what it is.

that being said, it's amazing how Toby managed to do a route even more boring that the genocide route without the elements that made the genocide route unique in the first place.

Ch2 (The Peak): This is where it shined best. It genuinely rivaled the full genocide run for me and was on the same level of it, I mean, what is there not to like? You change most of the dark world, darkners start to run away from you, you KILL berdly, you skip queen boss fight and its replaced with Spamton NEO... It's amazing how this chapter Hammer the idea of how you messed things up, and the optional hospital scene? Oh, it's SO good.

But my question is... what happened???

Ch3 (nothing changed): So after what WE did... after forcing Kris to traumatize their childhood friend, after manipulating this poor teenager into a twisted idea of becoming stronger and forcing her to kill a classmate THEY both knew... nothing changed????

Noelle not being in the chapter is understandable, but what about Kris? Am I supposed to believe they were mentally ok with what happened? Later chapters are it making obvious they aren't, so why in hell do we just go through Tenna games again?

Doing TV world after the horror of the WR in ch2 is just tone clashing, and it's so boring and breaks any immersion you had... and genuinely, why do i have access to the mantle minigames in the WR? Let me rephrase that, why do i have access to the WR tutorial while I am doing the WR 😭

Wouldn't it make more sense if we skipped all the boards to Tenna crash out and us exploring TV world? That would make the chapter short, but it would definitely fit the vibes of the WR... it would've been so easy too, just make Susie see there is something wrong with kris and that they can't really play in these games, so they insist they must leave early.

Ch4 (good effort): Noelle is in this chapter! Which gave us... 1 new scene, ok better than nothing, and it's super effective, but then what? The game throws you again to ch4 DW, and it has 0 changes (aside from optional dialogue)

Now admittedly, ch4 is in itself is serious so it would be hard to skip any of it... but at least show me kris struggling to keep things together in a mandatory scene.

I thought about it, and we could technically skip Susie's fountain since all the panels can appear again in the 3rd fountain, not to mention skipping Susie and ralsei conversation wouldn't matter here because how the WR want to focus on Noelle more... and it could be one of those scenarios where they had that conversation off-screen... idk, anything to fit the vibes.

Ch5 (hope): it gave me hope for what to comes, the idea of skipping ch5 dark world and the ch6 fully is interesting... but at this point, it made me realize that up until this point, you could very easily just watch all WR changes on YouTube instead of replying the game again without any changes.

I realized that I don't care about the WR now, which is a shame. It could've been a cool experience to go through... after ch2, it just drags with nothing new to offer aside from mostly new optional dialogue.

So overall, good idea, bad execution.