The P/E multiple drives most of what happens to a UK share over one year, and about a fifth of what happens over twenty
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The P/E multiple drives most of what happens to a UK share over one year, and about a fifth of what happens over twenty

A share price is revenue times net margin times the P/E multiple, divided by the share count. As an identity any stretch of price return splits exactly into those four factors, with dividends as a fifth on top. We ran that split for every eligible London-listed share between every pair of June windows one to twenty years apart, from 1993 to 2026: 36,979 holding windows across 506 companies. Because the five pieces sum exactly to the total return, each factor's share of the variation in outcomes across shares is simple arithmetic (its covariance with the total, as a fraction of the total's variance), and the five shares sum to 100% at every holding period.

Each factor's share of the variation, by holding period (averaged across all start years):

- 1 year: the multiple 54%, margins 40%, revenue growth 8%, share count and dividends about 0%

- 3 years: margins 48%, the multiple 34%, revenue growth 19%

- 5 years: margins 42%, the multiple 32%, revenue growth 26%

- 10 years: revenue growth 38%, margins 36%, the multiple 23%, share count 5%, dividends -2%

- 20 years: revenue growth 42%, margins 28%, the multiple 21%, share count 13%, dividends -4%

The multiple's dominance ends fast: it alone accounts for more than half of the variation only for holds shorter than about sixteen months. That is the empirical version of the old line about the market being a voting machine in the short run. What replaces it is the business, in stages: first margins (the earnings lottery of any given year fades slowly), then revenue growth, which by twenty years drives twice the variation the multiple does. Share count is a slow burner that reaches 13% at twenty years, which is buybacks and dilution compounding.

We ran the same split of 10-year outcomes separately for each purchase year, 1993 to 2016. The multiple's share of returns peaked near 40% around the dot-com bubble (1998-2001 starts) and again post-crisis (2009-2012). Those two peaks are the same height and opposite phenomena, which the share alone cannot tell you: it measures how much the multiple mattered, not which way it cut.

For the bubble cohorts it mattered because it collapsed (the median share's re-rating contribution ran -3.4 to -0.5pp a year for 1998-2000 starts); for the post-crisis cohorts because it recovered (+1.7 to +4.8pp a year for 2008-2012 starts). In no purchase year did it exceed half in either direction, and revenue and margins together carried at least half of the variation in 23 of the 24 years (the single exception is 2000, at 49%).

Dividends are a big part of the level of returns: the median share held ten years compounded at about 8.2% a year, of which roughly 5.3 points was revenue growth and 2.6 points dividends. But dividends barely register in the variation between shares, and at long horizons their share is slightly negative. That is not dividends subtracting from anyone's return; every share's dividend contribution is zero or positive. It means the shares collecting the most from dividends tended to have weaker totals: the highest yielders skewed toward businesses that went nowhere, and a high trailing yield is often high because the price has already fallen (rank correlation of the dividend contribution with 10-year outcomes: -0.16). Dividends decide what the market pays on average, not who wins.

u/selfsideUK — 8 hours ago

CMC Markets (CMCX.L): a 245% rally is pricing a single-year EBITDA doubling that the cash flow statement has not yet validated

CMC Markets traded at 203p on 10 November 2025. As of the valuation date it sits at 700p, an all-time high, after a 56% one-week surge triggered by a guidance upgrade on 1 July. What was a cyclical retail CFD and spread-betting broker is now being priced as a B2B platform company. The operating-leverage step-change that price assumes is guided, not yet delivered, and the audited cash flow is pointing the other way.

Headline numbers (FY26, year ended 31 March 2026)

  • Trailing P/E: 26.3x, the highest in the company's listed history; roughly 12x forward on FY27 guidance
  • Forward EV/EBITDA: 6.7x on £250m FY27 EBITDA guidance; trailing 13.4x
  • Operating margin: 27.0%, up from 18.2% in FY24
  • Net cash: £163.8m, which includes a €300m commercial paper programme draw
  • Operating cash flow / net income: 0.66x, the worst in seven years, on a £192m receivables build
  • Dividend yield: 1.9% (13.8p DPS, 50% payout, 1.23x FCF cover)

The guidance that moved the stock

The FY26 preliminary results on 4 June guided FY27 net operating income to £460-480m with operating expenses of roughly £280m. Twenty-seven days later, the 1 July trading update raised that to "at least £550 million" with £250m of EBITDA. The arithmetic implies about £270m of operating profit before variable remuneration, which is 2.4x FY26's £111.1m operating income, and the entire upgrade flows through to EBITDA because the cost base is held flat.

The engine is a Westpac partnership extension that will migrate A$39bn of assets and roughly 500,000 share-trading accounts onto CMC's platform over a 12-month window, on top of an Australian stockbroking business that grew NOI 32% to A$140.3m in FY26. The B2B turnaround is genuine: the Investing segment went from a £19.4m operating loss in FY24 to £18.1m of profit before tax in FY26. But that £18.1m is 18% of group PBT. For FY27 EBITDA to double as guided, Investing has to become the dominant profit driver in a single year, or the Trading segment needs another favourable client-outcome year. Neither outcome is audited.

What the accounts flag

Gross margin expanded from 59.6% to 87.0% in two years. In a CFD model that swing is dominated by client trading outcomes (when clients lose, CMC's cost of revenue falls), not by the B2B pivot or the 2024 cost reset, and it may not repeat.

Cash conversion collapsed to 0.66x. Net receivables jumped from £269.1m to £455.0m, which is 110.7% of annual revenue, and the composition of that balance is not disclosed in any RNS filing. The prior year showed the opposite extreme, 2.82x conversion on a £94.1m working-capital release, so neither year is a clean read on run-rate cash generation.

The balance sheet has also changed shape. A firm that carried near-zero leverage for a decade set up an up to €300m commercial paper programme in November 2025; short-term debt went from £3.1m to £95.2m and interest expense rose 5.3x to £10.1m against roughly £5.5m of treasury-related trading income, so the treasury operations were net value-destructive at the PBT level in year one. Meanwhile reported capex was just £3.3m, with Westpac integration costs being capitalised instead. The same mechanism produced a £12.3m platform write-off in FY24.

Valuation against the peer set

At the 2 July snapshot, CMCX carried the highest trailing P/E in its peer group (26.3x vs 13.4x for IG Group and 17.2x for Plus500) alongside the lowest ROE (16.3% vs 26.1% and 50.5%). If the FY27 guidance is delivered, the forward multiples compress below both peers' trailing levels. If it slips, this is the most expensive stock in the group with the worst cash conversion and the lowest returns. The stock also sits 67% above its 50-day moving average, so the position is mechanically fragile if the next print disappoints.

Bottom line

The note's view is that the risk-reward at 700p is balanced but binary. Roughly 12x forward earnings is undemanding for a business guiding to 100% EBITDA growth, while the trailing 26.3x has no cushion if that guidance slips. The H1 FY27 interims in November 2026 are the single data point that resolves it: an NOI print at or above £275m validates the operating-leverage thesis, and anything materially below exposes the premium.

What to watch

  • H1 FY27 NOI (November 2026): below £260m signals the £550m full-year guidance is back-end loaded and unproven
  • Westpac integration milestones before March 2027: any RNS disclosing slippage removes the largest B2B revenue engine from the FY27 bridge
  • FY27 receivables-to-revenue: staying above 100% suggests the working-capital absorption is structural to the B2B model, not transitional

Sources

  • FY26 Preliminary Results, 4 Jun 2026 (RNS)
  • Trading Update, 1 Jul 2026 (RNS)
  • Westpac Partnership Extension, 29 Sep 2025 (RNS)
  • H1 FY26 Interim Results, 20 Nov 2025 (RNS)
  • Selfside data: income statement, balance sheet, cash flow and peer snapshot, FY2020-FY2026

For information purposes only, not investment advice - independent research, originally published in full at Selfside.

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u/selfsideUK — 3 days ago
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Diageo grew revenue 6.7% a year for a decade and its holders still lost money

A share price is revenue times net margin times the P/E multiple, divided by the share count. Ten years of price change can be split exactly into those four components with dividends on top as a fifth.

I did this for twelve well-known UK names, mid-2016 to mid-2026. Contributions below are annualised percentage points per year (continuously compounded, which is what makes them sum exactly; each figure is rounded to 0.1, so a row's pieces can differ from its printed total by 0.1), with dates anchored to the data window ending 2 July 2026.

Some of what the decomposition shows that the totals hide:

Games Workshop's £58 was mostly the business. Revenue contributed +17pp a year and margins +10pp. The multiple moving from 11.6x to 31.3x earnings added another +10pp, but even with no re-rating at all £1 was becoming roughly £21 (about £15 of that from the business alone, the rest dividends).

BAT's share price fell over the decade and holders still made 5.7% a year. On price alone, £1 became 94p. The whole return was the dividend (+6.2pp a year) outrunning a multiple that halved from 25x to 12x.

Diageo grew revenue 6.7% a year for ten years and holders still lost money. Margins gave back 5.9pp a year and the multiple another 5.3pp. Revenue growth on its own tells you very little about the return.

Reckitt puts a price on a de-rating. The move from 31x to under 10x earnings cost holders roughly 12pp a year, against a business that was contributing +6pp a year from revenue and margins combined.

Tesco shows what a turnaround looks like in this framework. Its 2016 earnings were depressed by the accounting scandal, so the P/E then was around 120x. Margins rebuilt at +23pp a year while that crisis multiple normalised at −20pp a year. Two enormous forces nearly cancelling, netting +15% a year.

Next compounded with barely any help from the business. Revenue and margins contributed +2.9pp a year; buybacks (+2.1), re-rating (+4.5) and dividends (+4.1) did the rest.

u/selfsideUK — 3 days ago

Rightmove ($RMV.L): a 253% ROIC platform now trading 44% below the takeover offer its board rejected in 2024

Researched and valued as of 21 June 2026. If you're reading this a few days later, treat the price/multiples below as a snapshot from that date, not today's numbers.

Rightmove operates the UK's leading property portal: a two-sided marketplace where estate agents and new-homes developers pay monthly subscription fees to list, and which held 89% of consumer time spent on UK property portals at the end of FY2025. The shares (London-listed, quoted in pence) have fallen 47% from their August 2025 peak, compressing the trailing P/E to 15.5x, the lowest in 15 years of data. The operating business has not deteriorated over that stretch. The de-rating traces almost entirely to a competition lawsuit whose financial exposure remains undisclosed.

Headline numbers (FY2025, year ended 31 December 2025; valuation as of 21 June 2026)

  • Revenue: £425.1m (+9% YoY; FY26 guidance 8–10%)
  • Operating margin: 67.7% statutory (underlying ~70%; guided down to 67% for FY26)
  • Trailing P/E: 15.5x, a 15-year low; the prior trough was 23.1x in FY2014
  • FCF: £237.8m (7.1% yield); net cash of £32.1m
  • ROIC: 252.7%, on a near-zero invested capital base
  • Buybacks: share count down 29% cumulatively since FY2011, with no year of dilution

The lawsuit doing the damage

The stock peaked at 826.8p on 7 August 2025. On 13 November 2025 Rightmove disclosed a "notice of a potential claim" and fell 33% from that peak within six trading sessions. On 1 April 2026 the company confirmed a collective proceedings application (broadly the UK's class-action mechanism) had been filed with the Competition Appeal Tribunal, the UK's specialist competition court, and the stock hit a 52-week low of 391.3p. The market had already absorbed a genuine piece of operational bad news without much drama: FY2026 margin guidance was cut from 70% to 67% in early November to fund AI and adjacent-vertical investment, and the stock was still around 655p the day before the litigation disclosure. The collapse followed the legal event, not the operational one.

Neither announcement, nor the annual report filed three months after the first disclosure, included any quantum, provision, or sensitivity analysis. The statutory fine cap is 10% of group turnover, roughly £42.5m on FY2025 revenue, but civil damages in collective proceedings are uncapped. The larger risk is not a one-off payment. It is any remedial action constraining the pricing power behind 70%+ underlying margins and the 6% annual growth in average revenue per advertiser, which is what actually drives the model: membership grew just 1% in FY2025 while ARPA rose 6% to £1,621 a month.

The business underneath, and what insiders did

FY2025 was delivered cleanly: revenue up 9% to £425.1m, FCF of £237.8m, and the May 2026 trading statement reaffirmed all FY2026 guidance. Over 85% of traffic is organic and direct. Capital allocation has been unusually consistent: the share count has fallen every single year since FY2011, and roughly £2.14bn has been returned to shareholders against £2.10bn of cumulative FCF over that period.

Directors have bought through the drawdown. Net insider purchases totalled £1.05m from July 2023 to June 2026, including a single £995k purchase by a non-executive director at 454.2p on the day of the FY2025 annual report, with the CEO and chair also buying at 400–460p in early 2026. No director has sold since REA Group withdrew its takeover approach in September 2024. That approach is its own reference point: REA's final proposal valued Rightmove at 775p per share plus a 6p special dividend, the board rejected it as significantly undervaluing the company, and the stock now trades roughly 44% below that level despite revenue growing 9% in the interim.

Bottom line

At the note's valuation date the shares sat at 435.6p, or 15.5x trailing earnings with a 7.1% FCF yield, against UK classifieds peers Auto Trader at 13.6x and Baltic Classifieds at 20.8x. Even the guided-down 67% margin would remain the highest in that peer group. The note's view: the de-rating is real and the risk is genuine, but the price has overshot the fundamentals, which have not fractured. If the Tribunal declines to certify the claim, peer multiples on FY2025 earnings of 28.1p imply 380–580p, with the upside end arguable given the margin and ROIC gap. If it certifies, the damages exposure gets quantified and further downside from current levels is likely. It is a binary the operating data cannot resolve, and the 47% drawdown has created a margin of safety the operational data does not require, against a risk it cannot quantify.

What to watch

  • The Tribunal's certification decision, expected within 1–2 quarters of the April 2026 filing
  • The H1 2026 underlying operating margin print (expected July 2026): below 66% would signal costs escalating beyond guidance
  • The size of the successor buyback programme once the current £90m tranche completes on 31 July 2026

Sources

  • Rightmove Annual Financial Report, 27 Feb 2026 (RNS)
  • Rightmove Trading Statement, 8 May 2026 (RNS)
  • Rightmove RNS: Statements re Press Comment, 13 Nov 2025 and 1 Apr 2026
  • RNS: "REA withdraws possible offer for Rightmove," 30 Sep 2024
  • Selfside data: financial statements, price history, insider transactions, and peer snapshots, FY2011–FY2025

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u/selfsideUK — 5 days ago
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UK housebuilders are paying dividends worth up to 4.5x their free cash flow right now

A dividend yield reflects income, not whether that income is affordable. I plotted trailing dividend yield against cover: dividends paid this year as a percentage of free cash flow, for every London-listed company over £500m. Under 100% cover, the dividend is funded by this year's cash flow. Over 100%, or free cash flow itself negative, the gap is funded some other way: debt, cash reserves, or an expectation that next year improves.

u/selfsideUK — 4 days ago
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A few UK names have re-rated above their 10-year average; many sit well below theirs.

I took 14 well-known UK companies and plotted today's trailing P/E against each company's average P/E since 2015. At the top of the chart, for context, is the FTSE 100 itself: its trailing P/E rose from about 14.5x to 17.6x over the same period — so the wider market actually re-rated upward, while many of these household names went the other way.

Take BAE Systems: for most of the past decade it traded at around 19x earnings, and today it is about 27x, as the market pays a premium for defence earnings. 

Part of the fall for the first group reflects the unwinding of a strong period for these shares between roughly 2015 and 2021, when many traded at high multiples. A lower multiple than its own history does not by itself make a company cheap — Reckitt is on 10x partly because earnings have been weak. Equally, a higher one is not automatically expensive — BAE now sits on 27x with a stronger outlook for defence budgets and a far larger order book than a decade ago. The question, in either direction, is whether the earlier multiple or the current one is the anomaly.

Which of these look mispriced to you, in either direction?

u/selfsideUK — 5 days ago
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A decade of UK operating margins — Rightmove has held 66–74% every year, easyJet has swung from a 26% loss to an 11% profit

A profit margin quoted as a single number hides whether the company can actually hold it. So instead of one figure, I pulled the operating margin for every reported year since 2014 and drew it as a box plot to visualise the extremes and the norm.

Looking at the baseline for UK companies, we see the typical listed UK company earns a median operating margin of about 9%.

At the steady end, Rightmove has held 66% to 74% every year of the decade, and RELX, Next, Unilever, BAE and Greggs all sit in tight ranges at lower levels. Tesco and Sainsbury's keep only 2 to 4p in the pound but barely move either, which is its own kind of quality. At the cyclical end the ranges are wide: Persimmon 11% to 28% across the housing cycle, Shell a small loss to 11%, Centrica a small loss to 26% through the energy crisis, and easyJet a 26% loss to an 11% profit.

The point is that the level tells you how much a business keeps, and the spread tells you how reliably. A margin that holds through a decade is worth more than a big one that doesn't.

If there are comparisons you'd like to see, name them and I'll chart them.

u/selfsideUK — 6 days ago
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Many UK large-caps are returning 8–10% of their value a year once buybacks are considered

Standard yield screens show the dividend but not buybacks, so they understate the total cash returned for any company retiring a meaningful amount of stock.

This adds a buyback yield — the average annual reduction in share count over five years — to the trailing dividend yield, for London-listed companies above £2bn. The sum is the total cash returned to shareholders as a percentage of market value. Only companies with a steady, continuing reduction are included.

The leaders run from about 7% to 10%. NatWest and Shell top the list at 9.9% and 9.8%, each pairing a dividend above 3.5% with a buyback yield above 5%, and Imperial Brands reaches 9.1% on the largest dividend in the group at 5.8%. Smiths Group, Associated British Foods and Auto Trader trail the rest at 4.5–5.9%.

Standard Chartered is the clearest case for why the dividend alone understates the picture. It yields 1.6%, below the level most dividend screens would flag, but a reduction in share count of about a quarter over five years lifts the total close to 8%. Shell and Standard Chartered retired the most stock over the period, both around 27%.

A buyback only adds value per share if the stock is bought at a sensible price and the business is not shrinking faster than the share count. Barclays and Kingfisher trade below book value, where buybacks are more clearly accretive; others are returning cash while revenue is flat or falling, a weaker case.

How do you weigh a buyback against a dividend?

u/Poundthirsty — 5 days ago