Besides kpop parties, are kpop songs ever played at clubs in non-Asian countries?
When I lived in the US years ago there was just a few Psy songs, and recently Apt.
Back in the day there were 3 popular local Asian rappers in NY, and among the community there was discussions on who would become big. Fast forward to now, Flowsik became the most famous (in Korea and Asia) for his songs, though China Mac became a well known youtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucM5ilCjsq8
Flowsik didn't have street credibility, but his level was supposed to be better than the others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsg1Zqbcbc
Shogun was a known figure in the streets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_S2IV0pF0
China Mac also had street credibility, but he went to prison during that time for the shooting related to Jin. Nowadays he became well known, but I'm not sure if it's because of his youtubing vs rap skills.
https://www.tjmedia.com/chart/top100
K-pop is classified in the "Dance" genre. In the high ranks, there's a mix of songs from 1st to 5th gen. Even a few older Justin Bieber songs lol. The #1 ranked song is 애상 by Cool. Big Bang and Buzz songs are still ranked high. For all the genres combined, Koreans definitely prefer ballads at noraebang. Lots of OSTs from dramas.
https://www.tjmedia.com/chart/top100
K-pop is classified in the "Dance" genre. In the high ranks, there's a mix of songs from 1st to 5th gen. Even a few older Justin Bieber songs. The #1 ranked song is 애상 by Cool, 1st gen. The most popular recent K-pop song is RUDE!. For all the genres combined, Koreans definitely prefer ballads at noraebang. Lots of OSTs from dramas.
If this was about songs played at clubs, Big Bang and pre military BTS songs would be more popular. For some reason, I rarely heard newer songs when I went clubbing in Seoul last year besides TWS and Whiplash. Though I expect the newer BTS songs are probably being played nowadays.
In the US, I used to go to nrb with Korean friends during high school. There was a lot of Sg wannabe, buzz, and IU songs. I would like to be up to date on the more recent popular songs.
First of all, I have no issue if someone likes J-pop, C-pop, any type of pop more than K-pop. Personally I'm more of a fan of 2nd and 3rd gen K-pop, so the new stuff isn't as appealing to me. However, I constantly notice the same attacks or arguments against K-pop, and why J-pop isn't as popular. It doesn't make sense.
This whole argument is a contradiction. If you prefer J-pop fine, but if K-pop applied to the mainstream mass wouldn't that explain why more people prefer it more. The rest of the world is not going to have the same taste as Japan, a single nation, which is why J-pop is more of niche internationally. There's a reason why indie groups in the US aren't as popular as Arianna Grande.
If a country invests more money into it's pop music, wouldn't that mean better production? Money to pay vocal coaches, dance instructors, choreographies, etc. Also a more competitive culture in which trainees desire to become the next stars. Similarly this was said about popping/street dance, which led to Korea winning global competitions, and nobody's denying their dancing abilities.
In the context of advertising, the argument still doesn't hold as it's already established that "local, authentic" J-pop is different from "mainstream, manufactured" K-pop.
Maybe the newer J-pop has more complex choreo, but K-pop has had hundreds of groups doing so for the past few decades. Out of all of them, only a few groups such as BTS and Black Pink had made it to a certain level. K-pop choreo has always been more complex than J-pop, and a few (recent) changes doesn't put J-pop choreo on the same level historically and by sheer numbers.
Obviously everyone will have different preferences and I'm not offended if someone likes a certain genre of music over my favorite. But these contradicting arguments against K-pop are extremely common and loud nowadays. The exact arguments had even been said for C-pop > K-pop. There's also often racist undertones, which suggest that Koreans and Japanese are the same, or Korea is just a "cheaper" version of Japan.
When I was in Seoul last year, almost of the kpop songs played in the clubs (majority was still US pop songs) were from the 2nd and 3rd generation like Big Bang and BTS pre-military. The only recent song I kept hearing was Plot Twist by TWS. How about nowadays? Are there any recent kpop songs that are popular?
When I was in Seoul last year, most of the kpop songs played in the clubs (majority was still US pop songs) were from the older generation like Big Bang and BTs pre-military. The only recent song I kept hearing was Plot Twist by TWS. How about nowadays? Are there any new kpop songs that are popular?