What should I change the day after I get funded?

What should I change the day after I get funded?

I’m currently at $876.30 of a $1,000 profit target on my Vanquish eval, with nine of the ten required trades completed. I’ve started thinking about what should actually change once the account moves into the funded stage.

Strategy stays the same, obviously. Same setups, same risk rules, same entry criteria. That part isn't changing.

But there's a mental shift that happens when it's a funded account versus an eval and I'm not sure how to prepare for it. During an eval, you have the reset option even if you don't use it. However, the safety net is gone when your account becomes payout eligible.

What I'm actually unsure about

Does the pressure increase or decrease after passing? Some people say getting funded removes the pressure of chasing a profit target. Others say the funded account creates a different kind of pressure because every profitable day now feels connected to a potential payout.

I’m also wondering whether people make any practical changes at first:

  • Reduce position size for the first few sessions
  • Trade fewer days or take fewer setups
  • Keep the exact same risk used during the eval
  • Build a profit buffer before requesting the first payout

That last point is probably what I’m most unsure about. Do you withdraw once you become eligible, or leave the early profits in the account to create more room above the drawdown floor?

u/spendingtimee — 8 days ago
▲ 66 r/spy

The pre-trade checklist I refuse to skip for SPY 0DTE.

Took me longer than I'd like to admit to build this habit. Was trading on feel for months. Some days it worked, but when it didn’t, I couldn’t always explain why.

Turns out "the setup looks good" isn’t much of a trading plan.

This was a SPY 0DTE session on July 10. Trump had posted on Truth Social that the U.S. would continue talks with Iran, but that the cease-fire was over. The broader market pulled back after the post.

Instead of trying to trade the headline itself or chase the initial reaction, I waited and ran through the same pre-trade checklist I use before most entries.

Here’s what I check before touching anything

VIX first -> VIX was at 15.4. I use it as volatility context, not as an entry signal or a way to predict direction.

SPY had already reacted, made its move, and was settling. VIX at 15.4 gave me volatility context, but I still needed SPY price action to show that the initial reaction was settling.

Are EMAs actually stacked? Look at this chart. Price above the 9, 21 and 50 EMA. All three pointing up, all three in order. 

That gave me a simple directional filter: while that structure held, I was only interested in longs. It stops me from forcing a reversal just because it feels like one should happen.

Entry at the right candle not the first candle. I didn’t enter during the initial Trump-driven reaction or the moment the EMAs stacked. Waited for price to pull back, find structure, then entered long at the next clean candle. Neither is the right call. Waiting for structure after the dust settled that was my strategy.

News calendar. The Trump Truth Social post had already hit and the initial market reaction had happened. I also checked that there were no scheduled high-impact events coming up in my immediate trading window, in the next 60 mins.

What happens when I skip any of this

Before taking the trade I already knew where the setup would be invalidated and how much I was willing to lose.

This became especially important when trading under eval accounts and funded accounts with drawdown rules. A good SPY 0DTE setup doesn’t help much if one oversized loss puts the account too close to its drawdown limit.

The trade itself was a SPY 753 call. I was in for 7 minutes and closed at +$525 (+43.75%) on $1,200 invested.

Obviously, one winning trade doesn’t prove a strategy has an edge. For me, the useful part is having the same process before every trade: volatility context, trend structure, entry confirmation, event risk and predefined risk.

Do you have a checklist for news-driven SPY sessions, or do you change it when a headline moves the market?

u/spendingtimee — 15 days ago

July earnings + FOMC week is where eval accounts can make mistakes.

Three weeks are already gone. The next two weeks are probably the most important part of the month for anyone trading SPY 0DTE options, an eval account, or a funded account. 

Here's what's actually coming and how I'm thinking about each week.

This week: July 20 - 24

Monday is clean. Nothing moving the needle.

Wednesday is the first real session to respect. GOOGL and TSLA both are reporting after close. Two names that move sentiment fast - GOOGL on ad revenue and AI narrative, TSLA because volatility follows that stock everywhere. 

Since both report after close, the bigger SPY reaction likely shows up Thursday morning through the gap and pre market action. I would be careful touching anything early Thursday without seeing how the market digests those reports. 

Thursday also has RTX, TMUS, INTC. INTC can still affect semiconductor sentiment, which can bleed into broader tech. Not a full skip day for me, but not a full size day either.

I feel Friday is relatively cleaner with AXP, VZ, and HCA. Consumer spending read in this macro environment is worth noting. Relatively clean but not completely empty.

Week of July 28: this is the one

Tuesday seems like the cleanest day of the week. KO, Visa, S&P Global, and KLA matter, but nothing that moves SPY dramatically.

Wednesday, July 29 is the session to circle on the calendar right now. 

MSFT and META both reporting plus FOMC Statement dropping the same day.

Two of the largest SPY weights and a Fed decision. Same day. Premium going into that session will be elevated. Initial reactions will be fast and contradictory. MSFT moves one way, META moves another, then Warsh opens his mouth about rates and everything resets again.

For an eval account, this is as close to a no-trade day as it gets. Not because there's no opportunity, but because the noise to signal ratio is genuinely terrible. One wrong read on a FOMC + mega cap earnings day can do real damage to drawdown.

Thursday, July 30 

Core PCE and Advance Q2 GDP are scheduled before the open. The market will also be digesting MSFT and META from the night before. Then AAPL and AMZN report after the close.

So Thursday morning is macro data plus the MSFT/META reaction. Friday morning is where the AAPL/AMZN reaction matters more.

This is the part where I think a lot of 0DTE traders underestimate. The risk includes the event + second order reaction the next morning when SPY gaps, premium reprices, and the clean setup you planned becomes a completely different market. 

How I'm approaching the rest of the month

Normal risk: Tuesday next week, maybe Friday if things settle.

Reduced size: Wednesday and Thursday this week.

Very cautious or skip: July 29 and July 30

The eval account angle

If you're close to passing an evaluation account, these are the weeks where discipline matters more. A good strategy can still fail if you trade aggressively into FOMC, Core PCE, GDP, and mega cap earnings day at the same time. In a funded account or eval account, protect the buffer first. Let the market sort out the earnings chaos. Come back when the signal is actually clean.

My rule for the rest of July is simple:

  • Trade normal when the calendar is normal
  • Size down when the headline risk is elevated.
  • Skip when the event risk can override the setup

Are you sizing down for July 29-30, or skipping those sessions completely?

u/spendingtimee — 1 month ago

What makes me skip a 9 EMA pullback setup in an eval account

Most trading content talks about what makes a setup valid. Entry criteria, confirmations, indicator alignment. All useful.

But in an eval account, what kills a setup before entry matters even more. Because in an eval account, you are trying to find trades + trying to pass the evaluation cleanly enough to reach a funded account. That means protecting drawdown, avoiding unnecessary losses, and not wasting a trading day on a weak setup.

For me, one of the biggest invalidation signs is price roaming around the 9 EMA with no conviction. 

Look at this chart. Price just sitting on the 9 EMA, but it’s not pulling back clean to it. It is not bouncing decisively from it either. Just... hovering around the same level, with candles crossing back and forth and low volume behind every single one of them.

That's not a pullback entry.

The 9 EMA pullback only works when price moves away from it with momentum, comes back to test it, and reacts. What this chart shows is the price that never actually left. Just roaming around the level going nowhere.

Low volume confirms it. The market hasn't made a decision yet. There is no conviction in either direction. Entering there isn't reading a setup, it's guessing which way the next candle breaks.

In a regular account, maybe that is just a bad trade. In an eval account, that kind of entry can damage the whole day because one low-quality 0DTE options trade can hit harder than expected. 

Other things that instantly kill the setup for me:

Volume not matching the move. Big candle, tiny volume that move isn't real. Price moved, but participation did not follow. 

EMAs tangled together. If 9, 21 and 50 EMA are all crossing each other, nothing is stacked. No stack means no clean momentum. No clean momentum means no trade.

News within the next 30 minutes. It doesn't matter how clean the chart looks. One headline or economic release can reset the whole setup. This matters in an eval account because the drawdown rules do not care why the trade failed.

First 15 minutes of the session. It’s important to me because a setup during the open is usually not a setup for me. Just noise. 

The actual rule

A setup isn't valid just because the criteria are technically met. Context has to support it. Price roaming around an EMA with low volume and no direction is the chart telling you to wait. Not enter.

Reading that signal correctly has saved me more money than any entry technique, especially when trading options inside an eval.

What's the first thing that makes you walk away from a setup?

u/spendingtimee — 1 month ago

How I adjust SPY 0DTE sizing during High VIX Days

Most beginners ignore VIX completely. They look at SPY, find a setup, enter. VIX is just that number in the corner they don't fully understand.

Then they trade a high VIX day and wonder why everything feels different. Premiums are expensive, moves are violent, stops get hit instantly. Same strategy, completely different experience.

Here's what actually changes.

What VIX actually tells you

VIX measures expected volatility in the market over the next 30 days. High VIX means the market is expecting big moves. Low VIX means calm, grinding price action.

For 0DTE traders this matters more than almost anything else. Because volatility directly affects your option premium how much you pay to enter and how much you can make or lose while you're in.

Simple rule:
VIX below 15, market is calm.
VIX 15-25, normal trading conditions.
VIX above 25, everything changes.

What happens to your premium on high VIX days

Options get expensive. Fast.

The same 0DTE SPY call that costs $0.80 on a normal day might cost $1.50 or more on a high VIX day. That sounds like more opportunity bigger premium, bigger potential profit.

It's also bigger potential loss. You're paying more to enter which means SPY needs to move further just for you to break even. And on high VIX days SPY moves fast in both directions not just yours.

You can be right on direction, enter clean, and still get stopped out by a violent spike against you that would never happen on a normal day. That's high VIX. The moves are real but so is the noise.

Setups look clean but aren't

This is the trap. High VIX days have big candles, lots of movement, and setups that look textbook on the chart. ORB breaks cleanly, EMAs start stacking, everything lines up.

Then SPY reverses 1.5% in 10 minutes for no obvious reason.

High volatility means both directions are moving aggressively. Fakeouts are more common. Breakouts that would hold on a normal day reverse instantly. Your stop placement that works fine most of the time gets hit before the trade even develops.

What I do differently on high VIX days

Size down. First thing. If VIX is elevated I'm not trading normal size I'm going smaller because the risk per trade is genuinely higher even if the setup looks the same.

This matters even more in a drawdown-limited or eval-style account, where one oversized 0DTE trade can do more damage than the setup deserved.

Wider stops or no trade. On high VIX the intraday range is bigger. A tight stop that makes sense on a calm day gets clipped immediately by normal volatility. Either widen the stop and adjust size accordingly or just sit out.

Wait for cleaner confirmation. High VIX days require more patience not less. The first ORB break might be a fakeout. Wait for retest, wait for volume confirmation, wait for EMAs to actually commit to a direction before entering.

Take profits faster. Premium expands quickly on high VIX which means your target can get hit faster than expected. Don't get greedy. Book it and move on.

Low VIX is its own problem

Opposite end VIX below 12-13 and SPY just grinds. Tiny candles, minimal premium movement, setups that technically trigger but don't go anywhere because there's no volatility to drive the move.

0DTE needs movement. No movement means theta wins. Low VIX days are often better as no trade days than forcing setups that don't have fuel behind them.

Check VIX before you check SPY

Seriously. Before you even look at the chart in the morning check VIX. It sets the context for everything else. 

  • High VIX means adjust size and be selective. 
  • Low VIX means be patient or don't trade. 
  • Normal VIX means execute your strategy as planned.

One number changes your entire approach for the day.

What VIX level do you guys consider too high to trade normally? Taking notes on where others draw the line.

u/spendingtimee — 2 months ago

What helped me stop overtrading in a funded options account

Everything started fine. First trade hit clean. Good entry, decent exit, small green. Normal morning.

Then choppy market, and I took a second trade that didn’t really have a setup. I thought, “Well, I’m already watching the charts, so why not?” Stopped out. Small loss, whatever.

Then I took a third. Then a fourth. By 11:30 AM, I had taken six trades.

My plan called for two, maybe three if the morning was really clean. But atp, I was just trading without any strategy behind it.

The day ended RED.

I did not blow up the account, but it was red enough that one more bad trade could put my Vanquish account in a very uncomfortable spot. The worst part was that my 1st trade was actually good. I made money, then gave it all back because I didn’t know how to stop.

This experience made me ask myself one question before entering: Is the market offering this opportunity, or am I forcing it?

Most of my overtrading was happening in that second category.

I had my own rules, but I tried to stay in just enough to avoid FOMO while completely ignoring what the market was actually doing.

This is where the consistency rule on Vanquish has helped me. It gave me a reason to define my daily cap before the session started.

Once I was up a certain amount, I didn’t just keep clicking around out of boredom or feel like there “might be more.”

It gave more structure to my decisions, which led to better control of my trades. As a young trader who is still learning, I had to accept that the market doesn’t owe me anything.

Some days, it will give me 1 or 2 trades and then go sideways for hours. And walking away used to give me the ultimate FOMO. Now it feels like doing the job correctly.

Please drop some pointers on how you control your overtrading. thanks!

reddit.com
u/spendingtimee — 3 months ago