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Spider-Man 3 is a movie that I absolutely adore. I believe it's a good Spider-Man film and a worthy installment in the Sam Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy and I believe that one of the best things about the film is its brilliant score composed by Christopher Young, John Debney and Deborah Lurie, with Young composing most of the score and Debney and Lurie composing additional tracks that use more of Danny Elfman's themes as CY was planning to replace some of Elfman's themes like the Love/Mary Jane's Theme and Aunt May's theme and the producers thought that they shouldn't be replaced.

While people talk about how amazing the themes in this film's score are - like Danny Elfman's Spider-Man theme, his love theme, his Green Goblin theme (reused for the New Goblin) and Christopher Young's Symbiote Spider-Man theme, his Sandman theme and his rejected Love theme, no one seems to talk about some themes that appeared in the film and also mistake some themes to be of other characters. That's why I made this post, to clear any confusion about the themes in Spider-Man 3's score.

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1. Peter Parker's theme

While Christopher Young does use Danny Elfman's Spider-Man theme heavily for Peter, he also created a new theme specifically for Peter Parker which doesn't replace Elfman's theme but just adds to it, just like how Michael Giacchino created a new theme for Peter Parker without replacing his main Spider-Man theme, instead just adding a new part to his theme.

The track "Opening Montage" ( https://youtu.be/KyaHUjf4cnI?si=sXK41RaIL27ZkBnP ) has this theme playing for the first time at 0:14. While it doesn't appear as much as Elfman's theme and Young's Symbiote Spider-Man theme, it still does appear quite a few times in the score. It plays more in the Editor's Cut however as some tracks that Young created were replaced with John Debney and Deborah Lurie's tracks and they did not utilize any of Young's themes, though Lurie did use tiny parts of Young's tracks without actually using his themes.

2. Peter's Dark Side Theme

There is also a different theme that appears in three scenes in total in the Theatrical Cut and five scenes in total in the Editor's Cut - Peter knocking out Harry, Peter meeting Harry at the hospital (Editor's Cut specifically), Peter learns that Flint Marko killed Uncle Ben, Peter yelling at Mr. Ditkovitch and the deleted scene of Flint Marko turning into a sandcastle for Penny for some reason (Can be found in the Editor's Cut). You can hear this theme play for the first time in "Harry Hits His Head" ( https://youtu.be/X5gvyuOjw1w?si=ks41PI4ZTUSTQamx ) at 0:05 onwards. I believe this theme is used to represent Peter's dark side as it's a very much serious sounding theme that sounds much darker than the other Peter theme that Young created. This theme also doesn't appear after the scene where Peter yells at Mr. Ditkovich (or the Sandcastle scene if it's the Editor's Cut) and that's also the scene where Peter realizes that something's wrong with him, so I believe that's why the theme is gone after that scene. Maybe it's to represent Peter's dark side that he himself hasn't realized he has.

3. Penny Marko's theme

This is a very beautiful, emotional theme that always appears in scenes that are focused on Penny. It is first heard in "Marko Evades Police" ( https://youtu.be/QMLoDajLJkI?si=Yy9-BKGC43QSflNL ) at 0:58. I've seen people mistake this to be Flint Marko's theme or I've also seen people mistake Flint's theme to be part of Penny's theme and I don't blame them as it does sound like it's a part of his theme and would seamlessly with it. Speaking of Flint's theme...

4. Flint Marko's theme

I believe that this is not the Sandman's theme, but the theme of Flint Marko himself. It first plays in the very beloved track "Birth Of Sandman" ( https://youtu.be/F7fEijOS2n0?si=FtnxLDPQ3oeqtPpq ). I have seen people think that Penny's theme is a part of this theme and I've also seen some people think that this is part of Penny's theme. Both are wrong. This is Flint's theme specifically.

5. The Symbiote's Theme

This is a very interesting theme as it is a bunch of creepy, liquid-y and uneven noises that seems to try to find a "shape" of its own, just like the Symbiote itself. Though it does have a "shape" - the vocals. Those creepy vocals sound like a "wu-ow" and it sort of has a "shape" but it sounds like it has trying to maintain it unlike the other themes where they all have a clear "shape" to them. The theme plays for the first time in Harry In Lab - Web - Meteor ( https://youtu.be/KcROJjKUCQE?si=bcXBn9ICS5Xepd7E ) at 2:06 and the vocals specifically start at 2:18. Very creepy theme and I love it.

6. Venom's Theme

Many people mistake Symbiote Spider-Man's theme to be Venom's theme despite not appearing in any Venom specific scene. Venom's theme is a very evil sounding theme. Young was asked to make the theme sound demonic and treat Venom as the "devil personified" and it really does sound that way. It first plays in Black Suited Spidey Goes To Church" ( https://youtu.be/6e1LXHfZ33U?si=CRs-00z5FlIWBQVP ) at 3:23. An underrated theme for sure!

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Spider-Man 3's score is a very amazing score and while it does get the praise it deserves, I feel like there's still much more stuff in the score that I believe needs more appreciation like these themes and the unused stuff from the score as well. I hope that in any of Tobey's possible future apperances, they reuse Christopher Young's Peter Parker theme while also bringing back Danny Elfman's Spider-Man theme.

I think Aadu 3 has a very fun soundtrack and the character remixes are very fun to listen to, in my opinion.

Personally, I actually used to kind of dislike Aadu 3's music because I feel like Dawn Vincent's additions sounded much, much less unique and more generic than Shaan Rahman's work in the previous two films. I actually hated the remixes of the character themes from the previous two films because I'm not a fan of EDM style music in general.

But the more I listen to Aadu 3's score, the more I like it actually. There are still tracks that sound rather generic to me but I'm much more positive towards this OST now than before. I love the remixes of the character themes now and I listen to them daily (like I do with the first two films).

I honestly wonder why they brought Dawn Vincent and let Shaan Rahman only make one song in the film. I'm not saying that as a complaint, I'm just curious.

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Themes from Spider-Man 3's score that people do not seem to talk about.

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