u/throwRA10-0000

Some men should understand the power imbalance between genders should be used responsibly

Obviously in Islam men have more power. But I often see men use this to sort of throw it in women’s faces harshly. Yes I understand there are many feminists and I don’t agree with them but also, Allah gave you this power and you should use it responsibly. You have the right to stop your spouse from leaving the house, you have the right to divorce more easily, you physically have more power, you have the right to not let your spouse work and also you aren’t required to provide above the minimum, you have the right to get a second wife, you have the right to where you live and your wife must go with you. And that’s all fine , but be mindful of how you use that power.

I see men say things like “if she did xyz ill divorce her” or boasting how they can get multiple wives or encouraging secret wives or not wanting her to work but also not be generous with what you make and say “well technically i provide the minimum” and never get her a gift or act like if a wife ever refuses intimacy even once she’s automatically a horrible Muslim. Yes we know halal and haram but if you go about things in a very rigid way of “oh its halal so ill do it” or “well she did this haram thing so she deserves how i treat her” like such a rigid way of life , that isn’t how marriage is supposed to be.

I am NOT encouraging doing haram. I’m saying just because you’re allowed to do something , just because something is halal, does not always mean you should do it without thinking of consequences (if that halal thing is optional) and just because a woman may have flaws, or may some times sin, doesn’t automatically mean she’s a horrible wife.

I’m not denying any Hadith, im not denying any ruling, and I’m not denying a man and woman has rights. I’m just saying calm down, don’t go about things in such a harsh and rigid way. As men you’re leaders. Imagine how scary a women would feel when she marries a man like this. If men constantly go around saying in such a harsh tone “a woman must obey! A man can have a secret second wife! A woman can never leave without my permission” while never mentioning how you will treat her well, care for her, do extra things for her and just acting like you’re going to be this mean scary controlling person, you are steering women away from Islam! It’s almost like some men talk in a way that sounds more harsh because want to make women upset. Again I’m not denying anything from Islam. But women are more emotional and you can word things in Islam in a kinder way and you can be a leader while still being reasonably flexible and considering her feelings. For example, yes your wife needs to move where ever you move but that doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to hear her out and consider her opinion even though you have the final say.

Men also have to remember in Islam you should treat women kindly. If you are harsh with us, we will break. “Act kindly towards women, for they were created from a rib, and the most crooked part of a rib is its uppermost. If you attempt to straighten it; you will break it, and if you leave it alone it will remain crooked; so act kindly toward women”

A lot of men who are this way are also just immature or watch too much red pill content that make them think “I have to be mean to women”. Usually the traditional Muslim men that are mature, understand that they have power and rights and that they should use it wisely while considering their wife’s feelings. YES there is a power imbalance between the genders. There is nothing wrong in that. There’s a power imbalance between a mother and child as well. But in both cases, use your power responsibly.

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u/throwRA10-0000 — 6 days ago

I know polygyny is halal. I’m not here to argue that. Regardless, halal things can still be extremely painful

My husband cheated on me almost 2 years ago and it was so painful. Yes what he did was haram. Seeing those messages and finding out still kills me to this day. But let’s say he did it halal, and married her. That would not have decreased the pain. In fact it would probably hurt more because then, she would be an actual wife which as a woman would feel like real competition. I’m not saying haram is better than halal. I also understand men get second wives because of sexual reasons. But with us, the problem was on his side. I was beautiful, newly married, high libido, excited to be with my husband. And I find out he’s with another woman. He wasn’t with her for sexual reasons but it did become sexual as she was more sexual with him. She didn’t matter, she was a fling, kafir, had kids, older, he just wanted emotional support which he did not communicate with me and which was hard for me to give when he wasn’t even wanting to be intimate or show me attention as a newlywed wife who waited till marriage. No honeymoon, no affection, difficult intimacy, i felt pointless and ugly when i know for a fact i wasnt. I cooked, cleaned, worked out, dressed up, virgin till marriage, and what caught his eye was my beauty.

Whether it’s done halal or haram, it would breaks me. I’m sitting here venting, but I feel like many men would probably invalidate my feelings if it was done halal. But something halal and optional, not obligatory, can still be extremely painful, ESPECIALLY if they promised they wouldn’t. Not just that, he knew how jealous I was. He was never going to marry her, but if he did, I would still feel this pain. He knew how jealous I was because before and after marriage I made it extremely i don’t want him to get a second wife, like if he wants to at all, id just prefer he doesn’t marry me as I cannot handle it. It’s a man’s right, but id rather be with someone who is okay not exercising that right. I can’t handle it. Some women can pretend it isn’t happening, some women can do it, but I cannot. I’m too anxious, I’m too emotionally attached, I’m too emotional, I would go crazy and if I didn’t leave him, he’d probably eventually leave me anyways because of how crazy I would go and the amount of fights I make from him having another wife. I am too crazy about him.

Yes I know men will respond saying “western mind ruins women” or “it’s just a western mindset” or “some women would even find a wife for their husband” or “it’s his right its halal(as if I don’t know)” but I just wish Muslim men understood the pain of any other women whether its halal or its haram. The pain I feel from this haram relationship this disgusting irrelevant women he was with who isn’t part of our life anymore literally kills me. I stayed up all night, 2 years later, we have a good life, and I still stayed up one random night over thinking how far he went with her.

This has caused me very very extreme extreme anxiety of him getting a second wife even though I don’t think he will and he doesn’t seem like the type to be able to and before and after marriage and even after cheating he’s said he would never want a second wife but I have this fear, where I overthink so much and over worry about if he’ll get a second wife in 10 or 20 years. The anxiety is so bad that I know for a fact I would not be able to handle it. He is remorseful, he isn’t a bad guy, he was stressed and miserable and she was able to help him emotionally. I wasn’t. Because I was confused, neglected, and “frustrated”from lack of intimacy and attention and he never communicated how I can give him support. His biggest issue was money, so I gave back my entire mahr as a loan he can pay me back in 5-10 years. And he still went to her after that

I can understand a wife who doesn’t sleep with her husband and just hates him, would lead a man to another woman. But I truly did nothing to “make” him go to another woman. I was beautiful, excited, did not ask for too much financially, attracted to him, and was receiving little in return, which caused me to start fights from feeling neglected. Any woman would start fights when she feels ugly and that her husband doesn’t wanna sleep with her as a newlywed

Again like I said yes polygyny is halal I am not arguing that at all I accept the rule from Allah but I just wish more men understood the pain we feel. If he went on and married her instead of ending it, I’d be broken. That doesn’t make me westernized or a feminist, that does not mean I reject the ruling of Allah. I’m a Muslim who accepts all of Islam. But it would break me. If I can’t forget someone who didn’t matter to him after 2 years, I would be shattered if after I found out he cheated, he continued and married her instead of leaving her. I’m happy he left her and that she never mattered

I just ask for some empathy. But go ahead I already expect downvotes.

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u/throwRA10-0000 — 16 days ago