Lack of evidence doesn't prove there is no God only that you're not convinced one exists.

Likewise, lack of evidence doesn't prove there are no other living beings on other planets but because there is lack of evidence you're not convinced. Example, if I said I can fly in my apartment telling me I lack evidence doesn't prove me wrong. You're just not convinced.

The best way to prove there is no God is to challange and invalidate the evidence presented not say there is no evidence as if the counterclaim alone defeats the original claim. Example, you can prove I can't fly by the laws of physics.

We should stop answering the question that asks for proof there is a God by saying for lack of evidence. The theist presented the claim and their evidence but you're just not convinced.

No, this isn't an open field to attack an uncommon opinion of an atheist. Food for thought.

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u/unveiledpoet — 3 days ago

Because of free will and as individuals of huamaity represented by Adam, we indirectly caused our own suffering by the participation of Adam sinning and the consequences thereof.

Adam caused his own suffering through disobedience via free will. While humanity indirectly causes its own suffering through inherited participation in Adam's sinning.

So since every person is part of humanity, even a cancer patient could, within this framework, can be said to indirectly be the cause and participate in her own suffering despite not committing the original act herself.

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u/unveiledpoet — 2 months ago

Because of free will and as individuals of huamaity represented by Adam, we indirectly caused our own suffering by the participation of Adam sinning and the consequences thereof.

Adam caused his own suffering through disobedience via free will. While humanity indirectly causes its own suffering through inherited participation in Adam's sinning.

So since every person is part of humanity, even a cancer patient could, within this framework, can be said to indirectly be the cause and participate in her own suffering despite not committing the original act herself.

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u/unveiledpoet — 2 months ago

Wanting free will to sin is a self-centered belief because it allows the believer to choose what's best for himself not what god wants of him.

A lot of christians say without free will one would be like robots or animals. However, if you are required to believe and follow God and you experience love from this it shouldn't be different if Adam and eve hadn't sinned.

God didn't want Adam and eve to eat from the tree so he wasn't testing them. He was even happy to have creation and didn't say they were less human because they didn't sin. If Jesus were the sinless Adam then theoretically eve would have been perfect and like Jesus was tempted but fell into temptation despite being sinless.

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u/unveiledpoet — 2 months ago