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was in game and wanted the plaid shorts that were on display in VIP, obviously they’re replaced in the new update, but i couldn’t find them in closet or in the shop. Only thing i have is the butterfly top, the latered skirt, and the gradient skirt. i finished the baddie pass so i don’t think they’re there, so where are they?? Maybe i’m just dumb lol

I’m actually genuinely scared of what people will say if many people see this😭😭

Mine is that Jax isn’t a complex character at all.

My idea of adequate complexity (not a GREAT complex character but pretty good) is Caitlyn Kiramman from Arcane. Long story short, she starts off an ally to the oppressed. She’s victimised by one of them, and the mom she used to argue with all the time (mainly about her mother’s lack of action as a person in power to help the minority). She doesn’t turn into a full out abuser or dictator: Instead she starts to slowly question how innocent these people are and starts to struggle to separate them for the one person who badly harmed her emotionally and physically. She doesn’t hate them and never intends to harm them; She just stop caring for them, and dismisses them enough for them to be a means to an end for her to get revenge. She doesn’t turn into come around, and expresses guilt and awareness. She knows her privilege won’t get her consequences, so she steps down from her mother’s old seat of power and gives it to someone who can represent the minorities.

What genuinely saves Cait as a complex character is the fact that she’s shown in multiple different lights and is rooted to a deep running issue. She doesn’t receive much consequences (except losing her eye and having to live with the guilt) but you can see remorse. You can see when she goes from somewhat innocent and empathetic to hardened and dismissive. You see her go from good to leaning very bad to trying to redeem herself.

Jax as a character doesn’t have some deep rooted societal issue attached to his behavior. Actually he has nothing at all. Without the context of Cait’s character she’d genuinely just be textbook “person is bad because of trauma” and that’s exactly what Jax is. It’s not even about a social issue it’s about attempting to define what guides the character. With Cait, you have quite a lot to talk about in terms of her behaviour and mindset analysing them. A character who is an abuser because of trauma and depression isn’t complex, it’s actually quite simple. Jax is an abuser to women because his mother was transphobic and misogynistic to him and it made him hate femininity. That’s all, that’s it, nothing more. Nothing on hip tripping up, nothing that gives us pause.

Dgmw, Jax is a pretty decent representation of the misogyny (and discrimination in general) is not focused to an individual but rather stretches out. Now I’m not saying this transphobically (?) and I’m definitely not dismissing trans women’s experiences, but it does make sense that when a person is born and socialised as male, and has been fed violent misogynistic rhetoric in an attempt to keep them “masculine,” they end up in a weird place of outward misogyny and then turn it around to themselves in self hatred. That’s a pretty good concept, and I’d argue a good way to write misogyny rather than the usual way of writing just a pure evil man (because Jax is one for 8 out of 9 episodes, a man that is). That being said, it’s still a simple concept to put in a character. If Jax had random moments of clarity during his crashouts, that would’ve been good material. If he consistently saught out something from the women, or if he even sat with anything he did, we would’ve had something at LEAST. Instead, the show infantilises him, and fills scenes of him with panic attacks and depressive episodes, and makes almost the whole movie take place in his mind and making everybody see his struggle and trauma. And even then, rather than reflect, he goes into more self pity. And that’s not to say you can’t feel bad for him at all, but the show essentially tries to force you to empathise with an abuser more than his victims.

It also doesn’t work because he isn’t shown to be morally grey. A character like Cait is; We see her initial intentions and never see her actively attempting to harm anyone else other than her victimiser (excluding one scene when she hit someone to get them away from her). She never intends to actually do harm, and instead just displays carelessness fuelled by rage. You struggle a bit with whether she’s really a bad person or not. Jax doesn’t have to be exactly like that, but he’s only ever shown to be a jerk (which is just him being an abuser and it being turned into a joke), a full on abuser, or depressed. You can’t do that and claim complexity in my opinion. You’ve limited the character to two to three presets and fail to show them in ANY other light, and that’s going to vastly affect any chance of them being seen as having depth. An attempt to give them depth is now essentially useless.

Anyway, if anyone has anything I’d love to read :)!!

So I randomly decided to rewatch the show and am currently on season 3; Wow i never realised how annoying they all are.

Dgmw i LOVE the show and am very much enjoying it lol but I can’t help but think how constantly annoyed I’d be if I was actually interacting with thon the daily.

Lucifer’s womanising, inability to be serious, or vulnerable, or admit to his feelings, OR the fact that he can verify his identity to Chloe but won’t (i mean we know why but still

Amenadiel’s constant good soldier act and his “Oh Father is testing me!” “Father’s punishment!” would genuinely drive me insane😭 (i mean I am agnostic so maybe that has something to do with it…but i choose to pull a lucifer and ignore that)

Maze, oh maze. So childish. The whole plot to frame Lucifer for murder, admitting to a murder she didn’t commit all because she was throwing a tantrum and didn’t want to just communicate and instead blamed everybody else for HER reactions. I’m definitely not one to date a guy my friend was with (even kissing would turn me away) but considering she’s slept with/been with like a million people and she was sort of using Amenadiel at a point, I can see where Linda is coming from.

Chloe, Linda, and Ella are the only ones i don’t watch I think “stupid.” Somehow I failed to notice how childish the celestials who have been alive for eons are compared to the puny humans on first watch (in my defense I was like 13.) but like damn. Trying to frame Lucifer for murder because you wanna go back to hell because of your own behavior…Mazikeen babygirl…let’s not😭

This is just a sort of disorganised display of my thoughts and watching the movie, so it’s gonna seem random and not chronological.

1. I knew from the description that it is heavily inspired by “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream,” but the more I got into this show the more I heard a criticism of religion and the concept of worshipping or submitting to a higher power (I mean I have my own opinions on how IHNMBIMS can be related to religion but…). This was defo confirmed for me the first time I watched episode 8, especially Caine (although happy-go-lucky and apparently so lovable/loving) eventually becoming a full narcissistic dictator and the crashout they all had at him. “What kind of all powerful being has such a fragile ego?” “You discourage is from thinking outside the box and doing things our own way.”

2. When Gooseworx implied/said she sees no real need for female characters she really meant that shit. When she said Jax was her fave and the show was her exercising her demons, she really meant that shit. At the end of the show we are left still with not enough exploration of Ragatha, Pomni, Zooble, or Gangle. Although knowing Ragatha has an abusive relationship with her mother, imo the dynamic was not properly defined. “Emotional and physical abuse is broad, and seeing as that kind of experience can manifest in different ways, it would’ve been nice to properly define the relationship and directly correlate it to Ragatha’s people pleasing, incessant optimism, and fear of being alone. Zooble has body dysmorphia. Okay, and? Gangle is bipolar coded and was hit by car. And? And Pomni, well Pomni explores abandoned buildings to make her life less boring. And? Now I don’t mean to sound ungrateful (lmao), but Jax is WAY more fleshed out and explored and explained than them. We get I defind dynamic between Jax and his mother; She’s transphobic and patriarchal, and the type of woman who knows a man is bad for her but takes comfort in male attention and validation even if it means being abused or mistreated. Femininity is a weakness to her, and that’s exactly why Jax is so uncomfortable with himself, so terrified of opening up, and so abusive towards the girls, especially Gangle. Where is that for any of the others? It’s just ridiculous to me.

3. JAX ABSTRACTED, YAYYY!🥰 Y’all gonna hate me but it’s entirely deserved and the one thing Gooseworx did that’s in justice for the female characters, considering the way she perpetuates the trope of female characters needing to forgive their abusers and dismiss the issue because “we have bigger fish to fry.” (see episode 8; “Pomni’s right, this does us no good” “We’Ve aLL dOnE bAd ThInGs” to paraphrase). It looks like his abstraction is his own personal purgatory. He’s made to exist with all his personas, trapped by/with them. They treat him the way he’s treated others, and in the silence and darkness he’s forced to fully confront his actions and behavior. Now that’s what I call a punishment (somewhat…I still have my criticisms). I still would’ve appreciated a moment with someone calling him out without being somehow silence by the narrative, or him acting apologising, but hey, you can’t have it all.

4. Caine’s redemption was rushed. Not in terms of time cause we know all that didn’t happen in just a few hours. That inner battle was cool but the concept of him swallowing another AI was skipped over imo.

5. “Scratch, the first abstraction” this might be user error but I’m still not sure why Caine reacted so strongly to that.

6. As “cringey” as the “I am God” scene seems to be to people it was necessary, and I will not elaborate further.

7. Kinda predicted the Soma theory, don’t really like that it happened. It definitely makes sense in relation to the point of the show, but it still would’ve made for an interesting last episode if that WASN’T the case. I also lowk see a version where Abel was real and not absorbed by Caine, where the circus members swapped one evil for a greater one. I’ve seen some AUs and those seem more interesting to me, but that’s entirely up to taste and not objectively.

That’s pretty much all I can think of rn, all in all not a bad ending but could’ve been and should’ve been better.

I didn’t see the actual story or post she made but from what I can gather online, she said something along the lines of “eating meat is inherently wrong.”

I personally believe the system has to change and that the level of abuse a lot of animals face needs to change, but I just simply cannot agree with that statement and I’m actually gagged that that’s something someone said lmao.

I’ve also seen people make points about how the vegan lifestyle itself is flawed is many ways (e.g, carcinogenic chemicals being sprayed in cheap legumes and stuff like that) and also making points about people’s tax bracket and class and how that may affect people in disadvantaged countries, how it’d be different for them. I know for sure that the meat industry falling in my country would just be devastating for so many people job wise alone (especially in the specific areas my family is from) and also considering we have TERRIBLE economic meat is usually one of the cheaper things people can afford, so…yeah I think there’s arguments on both sides that make sense (both sides being vegans and meat eaters), but I honestly think the conversation doesn’t need to be about eating meat and should rather be about how the system and its operations can be changed to be just a lot less brutal. Billie’s statement (allegedly! correct me if that’s not ACTUALLY what she said cause again I’m getting this from the internet)? Can’t get behind that.

To clarify I actually LOVE Billie like she’s in my top five fav artists so don’t take it as hate, but I wonder how many people are agreeing with her because they love her and want to defend their fav, and how many are agreeing because they’ve always thought that.

So yeah just kinda forget how much you love Billie; Do you ACTUALLY (vegan or not) agree with the statement?

Note: In case this someone gets a lot of traction PLEASE nobody be hostile or hateful without reason😭🙏🏾