HEX

What's up with the HEX connection?

I saw one dude find a HEX (crypto) transaction that aligned to the date and roughly to the time of the crime.

A detail of intrigue, though, was the 'message' field of this ~3.5 million HEX transaction.

If i remember correctly, it said something along the lines of "this is the signal for the k*ll switch"

Then one of the victim's dads is like wearing a HEX hat all over the early-ish interviews & news?

What's the connection? Was this ever verified? Anyone have any info they can share here?

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u/whereistheanswer — 2 days ago
▲ 13 r/idaho4uncensored+1 crossposts

the real deal?

are you, like me, slowly starting to piece together the fact that the fbi took over because this def bleeds into the organized crime vs. feds scenario?

i am writing this to convey a point to those who may not want to realize that this scenario is quite real and highly probable. i used to think this angle was a stretch. but after i put two and two together, i can’t see it any other way. the soap-opera fan fiction theories people are writing strike me as crass. but i love to hear them nonetheless.

the actual case is hard to make sense of from any angle that the public can see. every interview and investigation and piece of evidence or reasoning is odd and incomplete. legitimately, every single one. it seems to me like fbi may have ripped the wheel away too soon, or local LE sort of called it quits and slowed down once the feds showed up.

don’t be like me and fool yourself into thinking what we’re seeing is what we’re getting. this has almost certainly been investigated far more thoroughly and far more privately than we’re allowed to know. it says it in the documents. the federal investigation took over. key witnesses are on record with incomplete truths. public statements are minimal and worded weirdly, likely at the direction of attorneys or authorities. the individuals discussed here have long since been investigated — some probably vetted and quietly cooperating with feds, trading evidence or truths for protection or immunity. if you read into it, you’ll see.

here’s what i think happened: the fbi separated the case because they were already onto a large organized crime ring, who was the cross-point there I’m not sure. but the crime ring includes people arrested between 2023 and 2025, some of which i’m sure may have been involved in this 4 case. the “lone crazed man” story falls apart too quick. even if he was involved or the majn guy, he could t have acted alone i mean look at the docs.

perhaps they wanted to calm nerves, take down the rest of the people, and add them into this case as suspects as they caught them.

but that didn’t happen, did it? and the public is kind of saying something about it, loudly. which is very bad news for the local / state / federal side of this case.

That’s why this whole thing feels confusing, or questionable. no matter what side you’re on. because it is! anyone who thinks the public got the full picture can’t be serious. we got a fraction of what was released, of a fraction of what local LE did.

everything else could still sit with the fbi in a sealed case or ongoing investigation. Though, I highly doubt it remains ongoing due to a few things I will mention toward the end. The one certainty in knowing the fbi took over is that many facts , evidence, and documents will likely never be public.

A few things to consider:

  • nobody does a job this professional on their first try
    • doesn’t matter how much criminology or forensics you’ve read. the evidence, and the lack of it, is inexplicable for a first-timer. full stop.
  • it was more likely multiple people
    • two to three attackers, maybe a driver. whoever did this knew where every camera was and the exact angles to avoid them — that’s premeditation. even granting the ~10 minute timeline, which i doubt, one person doesn’t pull that off. the multi-weapon autopsy reading makes a single attacker harder still.
  • the hair
    • it was everywhere. ripped out and clearly there. plus other blood, DNA, and anything else went with the bureau. i'm pretty confident they tested it. maybe not the locals, but the feds... of course they tested it.
  • the bureau showed up almost immediately
    • unusual crime, sure. but that’s an unusual level of eagerness, and they took the wheel entirely.
  • the bodycam footage is offset by an hour and seven minutes
    • it doesn’t line up with the security footage — match the car honks and you’ll see it. that’s either manipulation or serious sloppiness in the release. it should be addressed. same with the audio redactions. redacting interviews i understand. the rest is harder to explain imo.
  • the whitcomb book
    • written by a former fbi agent, released when it was released. he seems happy to let both local and federal LE look like donut-cop slop, because that’s what it looked like.

whether BK is innocent, guilty, or somewhere in between — whatever his relationship to the feds ever was — one thing is clear: this is the most fucked situation for everyone involved. and justice was served to exactly nobody if there were more perps than just one.

it should be going to trial and/or investigated expeditiously.. I'd find it difficult to believe that they're gonna let everyone believe he did it on his own. And I hope Whitcomb's book illuminates that for everyone. I think the timing of the release was purposeful.

i believe some key players on the organized crime side of this thing have already been taken down. Definitely have been arrested. This is confirmed: eb and dr in 2023, jjb in 2025. Look into those people and see how glaring their connections are to this case. I can spell it out for you but i have been advised not to do so in this post explicitly.

  • What's interesting to me is that the day JJB was arrested (or announced)
    • just so happened to be the same exact day that BK was meant to enter his plea. But in an unexpected move, pleaded guilty.

The alleged exculpatory evidence. Pure speculation -- no facts here:

  • It is believed by some that either:
  • BK was attempting to give one of the girls a warning note...
    • A note that said he overheard someone talk of a h*t *rder on one of the girls, and to call him. And they apparently never did.
    • that BF may still have that note. Or at least evidence of that note.
    • bk was the one who picked her up.
    • bk was the one who picked her up.
  • Or that
  • when (or if) bf actually broke out of that side door and escaped
    • bk was the one who picked her up.

if neither of these are true, i'll be interested to know what this alleged evidence is that BF has.

optics are gonna turn very bad very soon if nothing else, i'm sure. big problemo.

i guess we’ll see where it goes --

also feel free to flame me in the comments for as long as you'd like. i don't think i'm making any outlandish claims here - seriously. it's all in the docs just READ!

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u/whereistheanswer — 2 days ago

Do you have a moment to talk about JC?

if this post is too long for you just click on the 'important case' link and you'll see what you need to.

i’m talking about Jose Cruz. Nobody is talking about him. Why?

i feel absolutely insane seeing all of 2 mentions about this guy anywhere. i feel like people are maybe aware of random details but feels like a huge red flag to me.

... almost as if he should have absolutely been the main suspect and should currently be someone that everyone here is aware of, right?

unless I’m missing something big in the docs like an alibi or an interview with him… can anyone band together to help me gather anything else that's currently out there?

His DNA was there, he has a history of breaking and entering with masks and knives. And he also has a strange connection with BK. Accomplice? Why not question him? No attempt at all.

The new case

docs that point to / mention / involve Jose

34. Detectives find Cigarette Butts.pdf

The first doc is evidence - cigarette butts found at scene. No details like where these cigarette butts were found in proximity to the house nor how recently they may have appeared to be smoked. Maybe these descriptions exist in another doc.

130. Tip on JC & Interview with KF.pdf

A tip received from another Police Department regarding Jose Anibal Cruz (first paragraph). I believe that is the only mention of him in this doc.

D22000030 FORENSICS DOCUMENTS (RELEASED 10-31-2025).pdf

The forensics show a match, linking the cigarette butts to Jose.

The important case

This next part is what shook me when i stumbled upon it. it might be the most odd public-facing document I've seen so far in all of this madness.

Let's look at this case from 2021 ...
keep in mind what you're about to read takes place almost a year before the moscow murders

CASE 21-P08063.pdf

(key moments listed below)

^("she was asleep in bed in her room in the basement when she awoke to her bedroom door being opened. She said she) ^(saw a person enter the room) ^(and approach her bed.")

^("She said they were wearing a) ^(burgundy) ^(full face ski mask) ^(and what may have been a dark crew neck sweatshirt. She said they were) ^(holding a knife) ^(with a blade similar to but slightly larger than a typical steak) ^(knife.")

^("While searching the residence, I located an) ^(Avista) ^(bill) ^(with the name) ^(Jose) ^(Anibal) ^(Cruz)^(")

^("I located the Avista bill in the bottom drawer of a two drawer, wooden file cabinet located in the living room of the residence.")

^("I went to the lower unit occupied by the neighbor. I contacted a male there who identified himself to me with a WA ID card as) ^(Jose Anibal Cruz)^(")

^("I asked Cruz if he heard or saw anything suspicious on Saturday night. He told me no.")

^("He said he didn't come home that night at all.")

^("Later I checked Cruz's name. I noted that in) ^(May) ^(of) ^(2017) ^(Cruz) ^(was) ^(suspected) ^(of) ^(entering) ^(a) ^(neighbors) ^(resident) ^(and) ^(watching) ^(her sleep.) ^(See) ^(case) ^(17-P04993) ^(for more details.")

Friend he was allegedly with on that same night

^("Miguel said that they had walked to Cruz's residence on NE Ash St. Miguel said that he called a friend to pick him up, and had left Cruz's residence around 0230-0300 hours. Miguel said that Cruz had been home alone when he left.")

^("I later received a call from [REDACTED] mother, stating she had heard through the grapevine of another sighting of a male in a burgundy ski mask. I called [REDACTED], who said she had heard through her roommates that some males living in the area had seen a male in a burgundy ski mask on 10/12/2021 standing outside their window and waving.")

Cruz caught in a lie

^("On 10/27/2021 I spoke with Cruz at his residence.")

^("Cruz told me that the discrepancy between his statement and Miguel's version of events was due to his inability to speak English. I reminded Cruz that he very clearly expressed to Sgt. Breshears that he was not home all night, and had spent the night at Miguel's.")

^("Cruz said that he and Miguel had actually walked back to Cruz's residence. Cruz said Miguel had waited for a ride and he had gone to sleep. Cruz denied hearing or seeing anything.")

Strangely, there was one other person of interest

Yep, BK. Like what? then end of report just randomly puts this page.

Case # 21-P08063 , page 9

^("On 12/30/2022, Bryan Kohberger had been arrested for four counts of Murder 1st Degree and Burglary for an incident that occurred 11/13/2022 in Moscow, ID."..."Brett Payne noted their investigation concluded Kohberger had entered a residence in Idaho wearing a mask and killed three college-age women and one college-age man using a knife at the women's residence near the University of Idaho campus."..."Although Kohberger would not have been residing in Pullman during October, 2021, Cmdr. Breshears advised PPD had received information that the WSU Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology may have had an on-campus event for prospective graduate students that Kohberger may have attended around the time of this incident. I e-mailed the department's Graduate Program Coordinator, Danielle Makin, requesting information."..."On 1/19/2023, I received an e-mail from Makin responding to my request. It contained a forwarded e-mail from Melanie-Angela Neuilly, Associate Professor and Chair, which read that the program was not aware of any visit by Kohberger during the period indicated and did not hold any recruitment events at that time. Case inactive.")

that being said,

Do we think they worked together OR
Do we think someone literally copy / pasted this case to frame them?

it’s just so damn odd. Barely any questions asked.

if you find any other signs of JC in the docs, please drop them in the comments along with your thoughts (and prayers).

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u/whereistheanswer — 9 days ago
▲ 29 r/Bryan_Kohberger_Case+1 crossposts

do you have a moment to talk about JC?

i’m talking about Jose Cruz. Nobody is talking to him or about him...Why?

if this post is too long for you just click on the links and you'll see what you need to

i feel absolutely insane seeing all of 2 mentions about this guy anywhere. i feel like people are maybe aware of random details but feels like a huge red flag to me.

... almost as if he should have absolutely been the main suspect and should currently be someone that everyone here is aware of, right?

unless I’m missing something big in the docs like an alibi or an interview with him… can anyone band together to help me gather anything else that's currently out there?

The new case

>docs that point to / mention / involve Jose

34. Detectives find Cigarette Butts.pdf

>The first doc is evidence - cigarette butts found at scene. No details like where these cigarette butts were found in proximity to the house nor how recently they may have appeared to be smoked. Maybe these descriptions exist in another doc.

130. Tip on JC & Interview with KF.pdf

>A tip received from another Police Department regarding Jose Anibal Cruz (first paragraph). I believe that is the only mention of him in this doc.

D22000030 FORENSICS DOCUMENTS (RELEASED 10-31-2025).pdf

>The forensics show a match, linking the cigarette butts to Jose.

The important case

>This next part is what shook me when i stumbled upon it. it truly might be the most undeniable public-facing document I've seen so far in all of this madness.

Let's look at this case from 2021
keep in mind what you're about to read
takes place before the moscow murders

CASE 21-P08063.pdf (key moments listed below)

^("she was asleep in bed in her room in the basement when she awoke to her bedroom door being opened. She said she) ^(saw a person enter the room) ^(and approach her bed.")

^("She said they were wearing a) ^(burgundy) ^(full face ski mask) ^(and what may have been a dark crew neck sweatshirt. She said they were) ^(holding a knife) ^(with a blade similar to but slightly larger than a typical steak) ^(knife.")

^("They had) ^(concerns) ^(that the downstairs neighbor could look into her room while he smoked outside. She had not ever caught him watching her, but noted he could) ^(easily) ^(see in where he stands and) ^(smokes)^(.")

^("While searching the residence, I located an) ^(Avista) ^(bill) ^(with the name) ^(Jose) ^(Anibal) ***^(Cruz)***^(")

^("I located the Avista bill in the bottom drawer of a two drawer, wooden file cabinet located in the living room of the residence.")

^("I went to the lower unit occupied by the neighbor. I contacted a male there who identified himself to me with a WA ID card as) ^(Jose Anibal Cruz)^(")

^("I asked Cruz if he heard or saw anything suspicious on Saturday night. He told me no.")

^("He said he didn't come home that night at all.")

^("Later I checked Cruz's name. I noted that in) ^(May) ^(of) ^(2017) ^(Cruz) ^(was) ^(suspected) ^(of) ^(entering) ^(a) ^(neighbors) ^(resident) ^(and) ^(watching) ^(her sleep.) ^(See) ^(case) ^(17-P04993) ^(for more details.")

Friend he was allegedly with on that same night

^("Miguel said that they had walked to Cruz's residence on NE Ash St. Miguel said that he called a friend to pick him up, and had left Cruz's residence around 0230-0300 hours. Miguel said that Cruz had been home alone when he left.")

^("I later received a call from [REDACTED] mother, stating she had heard through the grapevine of another sighting of a male in a burgundy ski mask. I called [REDACTED], who said she had heard through her roommates that some males living in the area had seen a male in a burgundy ski mask on 10/12/2021 standing outside their window and waving.")

Cruz caught in a lie

^("On 10/27/2021 I spoke with Cruz at his residence.")

^("Cruz told me that the discrepancy between his statement and Miguel's version of events was due to his inability to speak English. I reminded Cruz that he very clearly expressed to Sgt. Breshears that he was not home all night, and had spent the night at Miguel's.")

^("Cruz said that he and Miguel had actually walked back to Cruz's residence. Cruz said Miguel had waited for a ride and he had gone to sleep. Cruz denied hearing or seeing anything.")

^("Cruz said he doesn't talk to his neighbors except when they ask him to move because he is smoking too close to)

Lastly,

>strangely we see a page added to the end detailing BK's arrest for the crime

Case # 21-P08063 , page 9

^("On 12/30/2022, Bryan Kohberger had been arrested for four counts of Murder 1st Degree and Burglary for an incident that occurred 11/13/2022 in Moscow, ID."..."Brett Payne noted their investigation concluded Kohberger had entered a residence in Idaho wearing a mask and killed three college-age women and one college-age man using a knife at the women's residence near the University of Idaho campus."..."Although Kohberger would not have been residing in Pullman during October, 2021, Cmdr. Breshears advised PPD had received information that the WSU Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology may have had an on-campus event for prospective graduate students that Kohberger may have attended around the time of this incident. I e-mailed the department's Graduate Program Coordinator, Danielle Makin, requesting information."..."On 1/19/2023, I received an e-mail from Makin responding to my request. It contained a forwarded e-mail from Melanie-Angela Neuilly, Associate Professor and Chair, which read that the program was not aware of any visit by Kohberger during the period indicated and did not hold any recruitment events at that time. Case inactive.")

that being said,

>if you find any other signs of JC in the docs, please drop them in the comments along with your thoughts (and prayers). Hoping this is seen and has some legs compared to the other theories floating around.

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u/whereistheanswer — 9 days ago