He's well & truly hit a new low with this one! One thing i command Julez for is her honesty and speaking openly about being a domestic abuse survivor and protecting her family, (shes got nothing to be ashamed about) but the fact they tried doxing her was absolutely fucking disgusting! Glad she did the right thing and contacted the authorities and made them aware of all this and made sure the residents of that address that they tried saying Julez lives at were aware of the situation, i mean that's selfless in itself making sure others were not targeted.

Name calling is one thing but fat shaming a woman and trying to dox a woman who's done everything to keep her family safe from a domestic abusive partner is something i simply will not fucking Tolerate, and if it this has anything to do with Lana (alot of people think it was because this is what she does) to ass kiss Steve because she's trying to get a interview with him then she needs fucking dealing with.

People came out in droves to let Julez know they have got her back.

This time Steve's gone way to fucking far, doxing and then threatening a single mother who's done everything to keep her family safe after fleeing from domestic abuse is absolutely fucking pig disgusting, there's no place in society for this type of behaviour, he's a certified cunt, oh I've emailed him and laid down some home truths and put him in his place, he responded and he didn't try fucking with me, im not a women you see so he can't try bullying me, the piece of shit.

We all look at Steve's shame!

https://www.youtube.com/live/DPYNkAdD7N4?is=Q6aDk4T99xnmusID

WTF Is he talking about in this drunk turkey interview. Time stamp 23 minutes.

He’s coming out with some BS along the lines of 2 phones with the same footprint (Bryan’s?) in the house. They couldn’t place him in the house now he’s claiming BK was there with 2 phones??

He’s not making much sense. He’s then twisting BTs statement that they couldn’t place Bryan in the house and saying what he probably meant was not physically in the house 🤡. Thats not what he meant and he knows it. All these platforms giving the G family a space to spread BS are part of the problem. No one pushes back as they’re only interested in the views. This isn’t just about their daughter, it’s about all of the victims.

https://www.youtube.com/live/NMVJ5g\_MTB8?is=cAZroA7BXeHGE2Et

I could have sworn I read where there were receipts found in his car that were dated before the 13th. Also he had other trash in car. So if he cleaned his car so well why was there trash in it?

In light of the recent issues regarding a certain family involved in this case I just want to remind everyone of a few things:

• Don’t stoop to their level. Venting here is fine, but don’t dox or post anything that can be portrayed as a threat or as harassment. We can talk about their recent interviews and we can debunk their lies but let’s not give them any ammo to come after us.

• Don’t go “real life”. Unless you know them personally, please avoid texting/calling/messaging etc them or any of the people involved in this case.

• Keep the focus on the 4 victims as well as the ongoing legal battle that BK is facing. All the other stuff is just fluff, noise, and a distraction. The most important thing here is justice for the victims.

A few users in this sub have done wonderful detective work and found that the email address does appear to belong to a certain person. However let’s remember that he could have been hacked, or it could be another family member on his email account. So while we’re pretty certain we know who it is, it’s still not 100% confirmed. Julez has said she sent the email and the information to the FBI so it’s in their hands now and hopefully it’s taken with the seriousness it deserves.

I think I speak for mostly all of us here in this sub when I say that we stand by our YouTubers and our content creators. They’ve done incredible work and we don’t want to see anybody being threatened or harassed. I’ve also been wondering if the same “Eddie” person who sent Lana threats could be the same person who sent Julez that email. It’s easy to make a throwaway email account so maybe the whole “Eddie” name is made up and perhaps it’s all the same person, just my opinion. It’s just very odd timing that two very well known and well respected creators would both get threatening emails within 24 hours of each other. Logic tells me that it’s likely to be coming from the same individual, whoever it may be.

We also respect the victims families here, and we only call out the bullshit when the bullshit needs to be called out. We don’t condone any sort of doxing, threatening, misinformation, lying, etc. This isn’t just about one particular family, but the other 3 families (4, technically) are being impacted by this as well with all of this stuff being in the news again and the ongoing interviews. So let’s be gentle and considerate of that.

Anyway, all the members of this sub have been amazing thus far and I want to keep it that way so I’m just posting this to remind everyone not to let the fuckery get to us bc that’s exactly what certain people are hoping for. They want to divide the community and tear us down but we won’t allow it and we won’t stoop to their level. 😊

I’m at my gym working out and there’s an older gentleman wearing blue rubber gloves while he works out😭 The guilters would call him a quad murderer if they saw this shit🤣

See people really do wear gloves for non-nefarious reasons!

I’m making this post just as a clarifying tool so people can understand exactly what BK is claiming in his PCR filing.

Disclaimer: I’m basing this solely off what we’ve seen so far that Bryan has claimed. We won’t know more information until the “official” filing is posted by his attorneys.

I keep seeing so many people only telling half the story or saying that Bryan is just grasping at straws.

What BK is claiming is not just one thing, it’s the totality of his claims when combined that tells the whole story.

His filing states that he wishes to withdraw the guilty plea and go to trial, due to:

• Being threatened or coerced by his attorneys.

• Not being told about exculpatory evidence (hair).

• Disinformation.

• Being told it was okay to lie to the court and that actual guilt was not an important factor.

• His attorneys telling him he would have a better life not on death row and would be afforded more freedom within the prison and essentially a more “cushy” life.

• Being told that “death row is imminent”.

• Being told to lie.

For some reason people like to pick one or two things from this list and single them out, but it’s not about the weight of each individual claim, it’s the totality of all claims when combined.

Not being told about exculpatory evidence and being told that death row is basically a guarantee if you go to trial, is a threat. Using his family and scaring them with horror stories about death row then using the family to talk him into it, is coercion. Had he known about the exculpatory evidence, he may have decided to not take a plea deal.

He’s not whining like a bitch about prison life, nor is he bored. It is absolutely in no way shape or form within Anne Taylor’s scope to make false promises about which cell block he would be in or making guarantees regarding his freedom of movement or employment within the prison. That is NOT her place to say that, and if she made those claims, that’s a massive issue. The only one who decides what happens to a prisoner is the prison itself, it’s up to the facility to determine where an inmate gets housed and whether they’re considered high-risk and whatnot. He’s saying she made false promises outside her scope. Plus, he’s being housed in J block anyway which is the death row block. So not only did she make false promises, those promises fell flat bc he’s still essentially living a “death row” daily lifestyle (without the death part).

But in my opinion, the single most important factor here is that according to Dr Turvey, Bryan was adamant about NOT taking a plea, with Anne Taylor telling Turvey “I can’t get him to take the plea”. This means Bryan felt one way, but his attorney did not respect his wishes and continued to bombard him with horror stories and threats until she got her way. Even going so far as to enlist his entire family to also nag him for 2 days until he changed his mind. That means the plea was not willing or voluntary. Yes he stood up in court and said it was, but it wasn’t. Him saying that just means it was part of the plan when his attorneys told him to go in court and lie.

The totality of these claims are very serious. It’s not some small thing to roll our eyes at.

This is even more problematic when considering that he is an autistic man, and autistic individuals are at a higher risk of being bullied, threatened, and can be easier to coerce.

Especially when you combine these claims with the totality of the evidence of the case, we know there’s no connection, we know there’s massive issues with chain of custody of the sheath, and a lot of confusion surrounding the IGG and where Bryan’s name even came from. It’s a hell of a lot easier to prove your innocence when you’ve got massive evidence issues, zero connections to the victims, and no motive.

I hope this clears up some things and helps it make a bit more sense since of course mainstream media and certain people will only tell 1 piece of the story while ignoring the seriousness of his claims.

Why have the investigators, prosecution team, and even the defense team, seemingly accepted that Dylan must have been mistaken when she says she heard Kaylee running up/down the stairs saying “there’s someone here” and insist that it must have actually been Xana instead.

What proof is there that it was Xana? None that we’ve seen but we haven’t seen everything yet.

Dylan was very consistent throughout every interview that it was in fact Kaylee she heard on the stairs, not anyone else. It’s one thing that stayed the same even when other parts of her story changed.

They want us to accept “oh she must have been mistaken”, but then by their logic how do we know she wasn’t mistaken when she saw the white man in a black mask? How do we know that description is even true or valid if they’re claiming that Dylan was mistaken that night?

We can’t pick and choose which parts to believe and which parts to change to fit a narrative.

Kaylee’s single source blood was found on the beer pong table in the living room. It’s more plausible Kaylee was confronted and/or attacked in the living room and perhaps ran upstairs seeking Maddie for help, isn’t it?

Why does the story hinge on Kaylee and Maddie being in bed together when attacked?

This is something that has been bothering me for a while. What do you guys think?

Dr Turvey was on with Donna Rotunno on YouTube.

Dr Turvey says that Anne Taylor was pressuring Bryan to take the plea deal because he didn’t want to. She told Turvey “I couldn’t get him to take the plea”. She allegedly told Bryan horror stories of what life on death row would be like, then Anne went and enlisted Bryan’s family to further pressure him and it took nearly two days of convincing before he agreed.

If true, that’s crazy!

Dr Turvey says Bryan wasn’t provided any of the defense reports when preparing for trial, and that Bryan allegedly had no idea Dr Turvey even existed until he went on with the Custody Queens a few months ago. Turvey says he was contacted by the Kohberger family afterward and was told this. Turvey says he spoke with the Kohberger family then handed them off to someone with more legal knowledge than he has.

Dr Turvey says that Anne Taylor’s office is under investigation for being at fault for the Dateline leak.

He says that one third of the cases investigated by the Innocence Project involve defendants who were forced to “confess” and plead guilty by their attorneys, only to later be found innocent.

In regard to the hair in Ethan’s hand, he made an interesting remark that stood out to me. Anne Taylor asked him “what if the hair belongs to someone in the house?”. Which he responded “well we need to find out”.

Why would Anne Taylor be concerned about that? It’s almost like she didn’t want to test it out of fear it would come back to a certain person or persons… (in my opinion, allegedly of course).

He describes it as being at least 30 strands and approx 10 inches long (he didn’t say 10 inches but he holds his hands up and says it’s about this long).

Donna asked him about the report that says the hair is Ethan’s own, and Dr Turvey says that was simply a guess by the expert. There’s been absolutely no DNA testing done on the hair to find out who it belongs to.

Here’s the link: https://youtu.be/pFT\_5pVaewU?si=HlOk8t\_s-eq8lYAC

i’m talking about Jose Cruz. Nobody is talking to him or about him...Why?

if this post is too long for you just click on the links and you'll see what you need to

i feel absolutely insane seeing all of 2 mentions about this guy anywhere. i feel like people are maybe aware of random details but feels like a huge red flag to me.

... almost as if he should have absolutely been the main suspect and should currently be someone that everyone here is aware of, right?

unless I’m missing something big in the docs like an alibi or an interview with him… can anyone band together to help me gather anything else that's currently out there?

The new case

>docs that point to / mention / involve Jose

34. Detectives find Cigarette Butts.pdf

>The first doc is evidence - cigarette butts found at scene. No details like where these cigarette butts were found in proximity to the house nor how recently they may have appeared to be smoked. Maybe these descriptions exist in another doc.

130. Tip on JC & Interview with KF.pdf

>A tip received from another Police Department regarding Jose Anibal Cruz (first paragraph). I believe that is the only mention of him in this doc.

D22000030 FORENSICS DOCUMENTS (RELEASED 10-31-2025).pdf

>The forensics show a match, linking the cigarette butts to Jose.

The important case

>This next part is what shook me when i stumbled upon it. it truly might be the most undeniable public-facing document I've seen so far in all of this madness.

Let's look at this case from 2021
keep in mind what you're about to read
takes place before the moscow murders

CASE 21-P08063.pdf (key moments listed below)

^("she was asleep in bed in her room in the basement when she awoke to her bedroom door being opened. She said she) ^(saw a person enter the room) ^(and approach her bed.")

^("She said they were wearing a) ^(burgundy) ^(full face ski mask) ^(and what may have been a dark crew neck sweatshirt. She said they were) ^(holding a knife) ^(with a blade similar to but slightly larger than a typical steak) ^(knife.")

^("They had) ^(concerns) ^(that the downstairs neighbor could look into her room while he smoked outside. She had not ever caught him watching her, but noted he could) ^(easily) ^(see in where he stands and) ^(smokes)^(.")

^("While searching the residence, I located an) ^(Avista) ^(bill) ^(with the name) ^(Jose) ^(Anibal) ***^(Cruz)***^(")

^("I located the Avista bill in the bottom drawer of a two drawer, wooden file cabinet located in the living room of the residence.")

^("I went to the lower unit occupied by the neighbor. I contacted a male there who identified himself to me with a WA ID card as) ^(Jose Anibal Cruz)^(")

^("I asked Cruz if he heard or saw anything suspicious on Saturday night. He told me no.")

^("He said he didn't come home that night at all.")

^("Later I checked Cruz's name. I noted that in) ^(May) ^(of) ^(2017) ^(Cruz) ^(was) ^(suspected) ^(of) ^(entering) ^(a) ^(neighbors) ^(resident) ^(and) ^(watching) ^(her sleep.) ^(See) ^(case) ^(17-P04993) ^(for more details.")

Friend he was allegedly with on that same night

^("Miguel said that they had walked to Cruz's residence on NE Ash St. Miguel said that he called a friend to pick him up, and had left Cruz's residence around 0230-0300 hours. Miguel said that Cruz had been home alone when he left.")

^("I later received a call from [REDACTED] mother, stating she had heard through the grapevine of another sighting of a male in a burgundy ski mask. I called [REDACTED], who said she had heard through her roommates that some males living in the area had seen a male in a burgundy ski mask on 10/12/2021 standing outside their window and waving.")

Cruz caught in a lie

^("On 10/27/2021 I spoke with Cruz at his residence.")

^("Cruz told me that the discrepancy between his statement and Miguel's version of events was due to his inability to speak English. I reminded Cruz that he very clearly expressed to Sgt. Breshears that he was not home all night, and had spent the night at Miguel's.")

^("Cruz said that he and Miguel had actually walked back to Cruz's residence. Cruz said Miguel had waited for a ride and he had gone to sleep. Cruz denied hearing or seeing anything.")

^("Cruz said he doesn't talk to his neighbors except when they ask him to move because he is smoking too close to)

Lastly,

>strangely we see a page added to the end detailing BK's arrest for the crime

Case # 21-P08063 , page 9

^("On 12/30/2022, Bryan Kohberger had been arrested for four counts of Murder 1st Degree and Burglary for an incident that occurred 11/13/2022 in Moscow, ID."..."Brett Payne noted their investigation concluded Kohberger had entered a residence in Idaho wearing a mask and killed three college-age women and one college-age man using a knife at the women's residence near the University of Idaho campus."..."Although Kohberger would not have been residing in Pullman during October, 2021, Cmdr. Breshears advised PPD had received information that the WSU Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology may have had an on-campus event for prospective graduate students that Kohberger may have attended around the time of this incident. I e-mailed the department's Graduate Program Coordinator, Danielle Makin, requesting information."..."On 1/19/2023, I received an e-mail from Makin responding to my request. It contained a forwarded e-mail from Melanie-Angela Neuilly, Associate Professor and Chair, which read that the program was not aware of any visit by Kohberger during the period indicated and did not hold any recruitment events at that time. Case inactive.")

that being said,

>if you find any other signs of JC in the docs, please drop them in the comments along with your thoughts (and prayers). Hoping this is seen and has some legs compared to the other theories floating around.

Dr Brent Turvey on Crime Justice w/t Donna

Any catch the interview with Brent Turvey Forensic Criminology on the Crime Justice Pod?

What an eye opening podcast and reveals .

I actually feel so sorry for Bryan.

Anne Taylor did this man dirty.

Christopher Whitcomb, author of Broken Plea, did an interview yesterday with Lana from Truth and Transparency on YouTube.

The one with the Custody Queens was great, but Lana really knows how to dig deep and get answers out of him. So far nothing new, but I’m only about halfway through. I’ll update if anything big happens.

Also there’s a new G fam interview on Sean Hannity. I haven’t watched it yet but I saw a clip that Julez shared. SG lying again as per usual, claiming that there was multiple fingerprints all over the button of the sheath and that the state had an expert who was going to testify to the age of those fingerprints and when they got there. This is SO FUCKING FALSE.

The lab reports literally tell us no fingerprints were ever found on the sheath. And the defense and prosecution experts both agreed that there is currently no way to determine how or when DNA got onto an object. Not just this sheath in this case, but any DNA in any case anywhere. It’s not forensically possible to determine.

At this point these channels need to STOP giving them a platform to spread blatant misinformation orrrrr these channels need to be prepared to do a full fact checking session and debunk everything these fools are saying. For someone who seems so “sue happy” as SG, he should really be careful because he’s talking himself right into several lawsuits and has been for a whileeee.

At some point this week I’ll watch the full interview and recap. I’ll have to prepare myself ahead of time for the incoming high blood pressure and headache. 😅