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Idk if maybe dual 24inch monitors are insufficient but I keep finding my workflow getting really goddamn crowded.

I have a primary monitor and then secondary that's just off to my right (I need a better setup to bring it a little closer but its ok for now). On my secondary I have a floating mixer taking up the bottom half of the screen, and top half is media items. Media items takes up probably more real estate than it should but its the only place it makes sense.

My primary monitor holds my TCP, piano roll gets docked to bottom half when its opened but when its open it takes up a ton of space for it to be usable.

Things get really crowded when I start opening plugins and plugin lists, if I'm not 100% in a VST then it either gets closed or pushed off to my secondary monitor and then the track plugin windows start to crowd up there and overlap each other then get lost behind other floating windows.

My workflow sucks! And I dont know if its because my monitors are too small. I do have everything at maybe 115% or so because 100% is tiny and also the fact you cant make the fonts on the File, Preferences etc menus is absolutely criminal.

How do yall keep your shit under control?

EDIT: Keep in mind I'm still relatively new so I dont use many tracks and plugins so this will get exponentially worse the more complex my tracks start to get. With piano roll open I can see 3 tracks of midi above it without needing to scroll to see more. Makes it feel very crowded

Hey yall, wanted to share some things that have helped me so far in hopes maybe they'll help you as well!

I'd consider myself heavily neurodivergent, if you are as well maybe some of these will resonate with you. And remember, all of this is with a grain of salt, I don't have years behind me. Some of this is obvious but is important to remember.

1. You get out of this what you put into it and you progress quicker the more you dedicate yourself, to a point . Diminishing returns apply here.

2. Try and get yourself at your hardware / DAW of choice everyday. You may not feel like spending even an hour today, but if you hop in, you might find yourself spending 2 hours.

3. Youtubers are monetized to keep your attention. If watching tutorials scratches the same itch as creating in your DAW, be careful how much time you spend.

4. You can still absorb a lot through tutorials. We are extremely fortunate to have the vast free library of videos dedicated to every aspect of making music. This wasn't really a thing in 1999. Use it wisely and be sure to apply it immediately. Know the difference between watching for enjoyment, and watching to learn.

5. AI sucks. One thing it doesn't suck at is answering common questions about using your DAW. Just type into google your exact question and it'll tell you step by step how to accomplish it.

6. Producing electronic music covers a wide array of skillsets. Be patient with your progress and recognize that time spent working on your craft is progress, and your growth is not always obvious. Trust that you are better after 50 more hours than you were before it.

7. Plateaus happen in every form of learning and skill building. Don't let being in one burn you out. Keep pushing, try new things, try new genres, new techniques, new creative approaches, you will break through it soon enough.

8. Take breaks. Take a walk. Take a day or 2 off. Reset.

9. Don't be afraid of learning how synthesizers work and how to create the sounds you want. You can go far with presets but I cannot stress enough that what you will learn in synthesis will make you a better producer. You will understand music differently, you will hear better exactly what is happening in your favorite tracks and be able to recreate it. A powerful synth like Vital or Surge XT can do some seriously heavy lifting in composition.

10. As a caveat to #9, do that in moderation if your goal is to pump tracks out quickly. You can spend 3 hours chasing a patch that you could have spent composing a song. Whether or not this matters depends on you and your goals.

11. If you do not enjoy the process of learning and creating, quit. There is no shame in this. This is not for everyone. It's not the destination it's the journey. You can love electronic music and fantasize about creating the music that moves you, but if you find the actual process uncomfortable and it doesn't bring you joy, then let it rest.

12. Play your instrument. Some people can program electronic without ever touching a midi keyboard, you will know if you are one of them. Most of us aren't. Load a VST load a preset and just play. You don't always have to record or punch in notes. You can just let some great synth sounds wash over you. These sessions can inspire you as well and you might find yourself desperately wanting to flesh out what you've jammed into a track. Go with that.

13. "Just keep making tracks" is hollow advice, especially when you're brand new. You're learning, it's ok to spend a night making drum loops. It's ok to spend a night putting down some nice leads. Record them if you want. Not everything has to be finished into a complete track. Completing a track is another skill entirely, it's a sum of different skills in producing. It is ok to work on these skills in isolation. You will create tracks as a part of the process, don't stress it. You will naturally want to take that fat lead you've been messing with and accompany it with a bass line, and a drum track, and you will end up wanting it to be complete. That is when it happens.

That's all I got for now. I hope it helps some other beginners find their footing. I didn't really have this kind of help when I started. No one really told me where to start, I just downloaded Reaper and looked for instruments and started clumsily working things out.

Give me a shout if you wanna chat, and share your creations in here, I'd love to hear them!

Yep it's another odd question from me! I promise it's related to theory :)

I don't play piano never have but I'm going to start when I can get the money for a full 88 key weighted keyboard.

I produce all kinds of electronic but my interest in composition and playing ranges across literally everything, if you hand me an instrument I want to play it.

As of right now I have an Arturia Keystep Pro, I believe it has 4 octaves but I can't remember off the top, also it's small keys so it's great for programming in simple stuff and producing, but not great for playing, which is ok (it's a wonderful piece of hardware!)

My question is, I'm learning all this theory and it's sinking in and I'm starting to apply it but I'm struggling a bit. I feel quite a bit blind when I look at the keyboard. I'm still committing the keys to memory, I almost have instant recognition of what note a key is by sight.

When it comes to chords and scales though, I'm very very blind. If I want to make a song in a certain key, I'll kinda have the notes in my head somewhat from the scale, I do not know chord shapes, I build chords from the diatonic, but I quickly lose them.

What kinds of things can I do to start seeing the keyboard more fully with its scales and chord shapes? Im fumbling around blind and it's stifling my creativity. Fumbling around does eventually work, but constantly playing notes that sound awful in a piece, having to carefully sketch out chords rather than just playing them, etc.

What would you do in my spot to get more fluent given the hardware limitations?

I need some help, of all the fundamentals of production this is currently my sloppiest and least controlled aspect and it feels way more complicated than it probably is.

I use HD560S headphones thru a Focusrite Solo with Reaper as my DAW. In windows my volume is at 100% but I'm pretty sure since DAW is set for ASIO that doesn't matter and I use the volume knob for adjusting in general not just inside Reaper.

So as I'm putting a track together, I'm usually finding instruments way too loud. There's also so much chatter about LUFS and gain staging etc that I genuinely don't know what levels my individual tracks should be at and what the master should be reading.

On my individual tracks I keep their meters going no higher than -6dB. Today I learned how to set my master mixer to LUFS and have it use 14dB as a reference which to my understanding means if it hits 0 on the master then that's -14 LUFS but I'm not 100% sure.

On top of all that, I just don't know how to set my volume levels for monitoring while I'm making music. Everytime I open a VST shit hurts my ears and I adjust it's volume down.

My confusion comes from the fact I feel like I'm working with two different volume settings, my track volumes, and my headphones volume. I can have loud ass headphone volume and be well below the threshold (seems like I'm at -6dB or less so that's well below -14 LUFS I guess???), and I can turn my headphones down but I dont hear details as well.

Idk yall I'm just confused as hell with this. I'm not trying to mix/master yet I just wanna know what should be coming through my headphones and how it is meant to reflect what will eventually get rendered.

I need something stable/consistent. It's overwhelming and confusing in a way that literally nothing else in this process has been.

Alright, in the beginning I decided to put off making any changes to default behavior especially in piano roll because I wanted to get to a point where I needed it. Well, now I need it because making edits and navigating in the piano roll is grating and slowing me down.

Should I look for changes in the manual or is there a more comprehensive tutorial? The things I've seen on YT have mostly been small behavior tweaks.

Im looking to do stuff that wont be as simple to find like "dont shift the piano roll around to follow the track while playing", zoom behaviors, editing behaviors, copying/duplicating behaviors, etc.

Some of this shit is complex and the defaults are a pain. Copy and pasting doesn't feel intuitive, having to adjust the size and zoom of piano roll everytime I open it, navigating in it.

It's shit! Will the manual teach me everything I need to know or is there a more in depth video guide I should seek out? Kenny Gioia is always my go to but the stuff I wanna do seems like it would span 5 videos of his at least if its even covered.

Thanks yall

EDIT: also I literally dont know how to find some answers when it comes to some things that reaper does nor even how to ask, like if a midi item goes too long and I grab it and resize it down it's like it doesn't delete it, it just holds onto that section of the midi that doesnt show but is magically at the end and also sometimes pasted notes end up in that void like a quantum midi section that both exists and does not exist simultaneously what the fuck is that?

This is not a "help me find royalty free samples" post, it is about the art of sampling** **

If I had the means I would probably be out capturing my own samples but at the present I dont. If you do it'd be cool to hear about, but also if you don't, where do you go to find sounds that inspire you or end up in your tracks?

How have you escaped the "ESSENTIAL ___ PACK" trap and found your own way in samples? Do you go out with a mic and capture sounds of nature? Do you dig through vinyls, or dig through royalty free repositories? Or do you rip samples out of soundscapes or FX from movies, TV, documentaries, etc?

(For suggesting resources its just first paragraph, if interested in helping my workflow its the long ass thread below)

I watch Kenny Gioia for pretty much everything I wanna learn in Reaper and I've learned a lot, and I've seen a bunch of reapertips vids but haven't seen any overall start to finish workflows. If you have any let me know, and if interested in giving suggestions on what I could be doing better I'll describe mine below.

I'm a beginner and unsure if I'm doing it correctly and I know there's probably no wrong way to use Reaper but I'm pretty sure the way I'm doing it is piss poor lol. A lot of what I do is guesswork and looking things up when I dont know how to do something but being that I've never truly produced before, I could be doing it ass backwards.

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I created my first real solid attempt at making a track start to finish last night, I got inspired to go beyond making singular ideas and pieces and actually make a track.

The workflow:

Started with a kick drum as I was thinking I would try and learn sidechaining for fun but it turned into an actual thing I wanted to finish (never got to sidechaining lol).

I put DR89 (909 vst) on a track, and laid down a 4 bar 4 on the the floor pattern. I think I originally wanted to just get a good kick sound and render to WAV and arrange it in the grid accordingly but I ended up just highlighting my 4 bars and then duplicating the MIDI over and over until it was about a minute and then rendered to stem, it made a WAV stem above my midi track that I couldn't rename (I cant seem to name my tracks anyway?) but I went ahead and deleted the original track with the VST.

On the kick audio stem I put some reverb FX on and got the kick sounding great. Only strange thing was that the kick waveform seemed to fill a ton of space like the next kick transient would hit on the long tail of previous kick, preFX. Maybe it's supposed to? Idk.

Next I made another track with the DR89 to fill in some other drums as I wanted to keep my kick separate for different FX. Not great with drum patterns but I did some snares and closed hats and used the 909 to get them sounding ok. Again used 4 bar pattern painted in piano roll, this time I click each individual velocity in the bottom and randomized it myself. Gotta be a better way for that? Then once happy I duplicated the 4 bar midi until it matched length of my kick stem, and left it as midi. Didn't know if I'd wanna make changes dont really know.

Now that I had a constantly rolling kick and hats I wanted a trance lead, I made a new track with Surge XT on it and found a decent preset and played on my keystep with some ideas and its arpeggiator and when satisfied, I hit record and played in the lead.

On that channel I added some FX, tried KhsTranceGate but realized arpeggios were already creating that vibe so killed it. I love that FX tho so maybe next time I'll use a far slower arp lead and use the FX.

Now I knew I needed some things for flavor and as I was mostly just experimenting I decided to use volume envelopes on my drums to fade them in. My lead started 8 bars in so I faded that in as well.

I let it play and messed with the reverb on the lead and found a jarring sounding section that sounded much better if I increased the reverb tail to wash over it and that worked. So to automate that I changed track to Touch and let the track play and as I made the adjustments it painted in the automation lane for me. I didn't want to hit record with the track armed because I was afraid it would try to do another MIDI take and I dont know much about those. Maybe there's a better way for live automation?

I used volume envelopes to give the drums a break over the washed out part of the lead.

Last was bass and that shit was slopped together. I just made a new Surge XT track and recorded a simple bassline in the right spot, used my trance gate on that. This is where it got weird again with my workflow, I wanted to automate the cutoff so I changed track to Touch, hit play and when the other tracks dropped out I swept the bass up to let it make a high saw before dropping it back down.

The bass could barely be heard so I didn't bother sidechaining. Low end was muddy as shit but I didnt see a way to give a "pumping" feel as the kick was already huge, the bass was fighting for its life against it, and I didn't know if the lead was really competing with the kick.

One final note is I made sure when making each track that the RMS on the master never went over -6db, I used the levels on the VSTs (not faders) to achieve this. Unsure if its the best approach but it didn't sound bad. I chalked the muddy bass up to poor composition.

Finished for the night and rendered it out. Success (for me anyway)
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All in all the track is extremely amateur but I'm mostly just wondering if my Reaper workflow could use some tweaking. I just really am not sure how to create in Reaper. I'm patching together individual techniques learned in Reaper tutorials but I know there's got to be better ways.

My editing workflow is not great. My automation workflow feels strange to me. I'm not sure about the drums, if I should be making WAV stems for each 4 bar drumloop and duplicating them so I can change FX for individual drums (esp kick) or if I should leave it all as MIDI.

If you spent the time with this post I really appreciate ya! I'm having a blast with this and am very happy with my first "track", as it's more a proof of concept that I can actually go on this long journey and something great will come of it someday. I'm not free of "tutorial hell" but without having been in tutorial hell I never could have made something like that.

I feel like I'm probably getting close to growing out of official servers. I'm not really sure what it is but I get the feeling there might be better community servers out there that keep the vanilla experience mostly intact but have a better population?

I'm a solo and getting to the point where I wanna have more interactions with people and it seems impossible on official, people seem to KOS at every opportunity even if you talk to them they either lie or they don't say anything.

It's a lonely life just gearing and surviving running military and stashing it away in the woods and rinse repeat.

I feel like there's more to this game and I dont know if I'll find much more of it on Official. If the server has mods, would prefer they're extremely minimal QoL or things to make the survival aspect more hardcore. PvP is fine but not PvP centered.

If you saw my last thread in here please don't throw anything at me I promise I'm not trying to be extra about this stuff I just can't help but try my hardest to fully understand what is happening in the music that sounds good and the music I want to make.

So I'm getting this from an Alex Rome video discussing chord progressions and their moods in a video about EDM production, he's a decent teacher but I don't love the way he's basically just giving a template and picking a scale and then voicing the chords differently and it leaves me with far more questions than answers.

So due to that I've been doing a lot of googling while watching this video, I've gotten some questions answered but it leads me to a broader question.

If my goal is to learn how to compose/write my own music, should I just be working on building my own chord progressions, like intuitively it seems like if I'm using a certain scale, I should be able to listen to the feelings that moving from one interval to another give, and then using those notes as the chords in my progression, and voicing them in a way that sounds best, right?

I don't know if it's better for my learning to do it this way or just cut and paste the common chord progressions based on the mood ppl say they have.

I'll be buying a license soon, Reaper has more than earned it when it comes to what I think is worth spending money on.

I'm still early days in learning Reaper but my god is it good. I tried Fruityloops 25 years ago and it felt so limiting and I don't wanna be too hard on it cause I do feel like production of electronic thru DAWs has grown so so much since then and the entire ecosystem around them (learning resources, plugins, sample libraries) really makes everything so much more user friendly across all DAWs.

Ableton felt weird too for reasons I dont understand.

Now its Reaper and a lot of people told me not to do it, one told me "EDM in reaper? lol good luck" and now that I've spent about 20 hours in it, his comment seems hilarious to me.

Yes this DAW is not the most user friendly but with AI in google's search literally anything I want to know how to do, it tells me how to do it when I cant figure it out. I also feel like I am learning more about how to create music in a DAW and less about how to use a particular DAW to do it.

I'm finding there's so many different ways to approach the same goal in creating a song, whether it be thru a bunch of VSTs and piano rolls, or raw waveforms laid out in different tracks, or a mixture of both, and Reaper seems perfectly suited for any of those.

I just cant sing its praises enough. It can be overwhelming at times but it never forces me to use any of its million features that I dont need at the time in order to do what I need to do. It does exactly what I need it to and gets out of my way otherwise.

I genuinely think this DAW will make a better producer out of me quicker than any other DAW could.

Per a recent suggestion I'm working on memorizing the natural major scales, and it seems by doing so it will be very easy to know the minor scales immediately by referencing major scales. I got tripped up on intervals for a bit and I'll be incorporating those as well.

Feel free to take my method below and critique the shit out of it, tell me its garbage and that I'm going down the wrong path or should be doing it totally different. I have a blank canvas right now and I want to maximize that early potential for music theory.

I have a poor memory, age and neurodivergence are a factor. I'm making progress I can quickly spell the major scale with the step patterns, and now that I'm starting with D major, I dont really know how to memorize these scales so my intuition is to remember which notes are flat or sharp. So would it be smart to remember that D major has a F# and C#, or is there a better way to do this?

Also, aside from being on paper is there a way I should be incorporating my keyboard or guitar in memorizing these scales and what should I be listening to/paying most attention to?

Finally, if there are other things to memorize at the start, what would that be? Any tips and tricks for memory would be super helpful.

I'm trying to learn so so much at once and my biggest priorities in music are to develop my ear more and also to translate anything in my head to an instrument. Or to have a kind of roadmap while I'm trying to come up with melodies or progressions instead of just blindly playing notes waiting until something clicks.

Right now my knowledge is very beginner level, I am an avid lifelong lover of music, lifetime player of guitar but not dedicated, and ear-wise I can kinda tell if my guitar is out of tune but I cannot tune by ear unless one string is in tune and I can reference the unison notes.

Thanks!

Title says most of it

Returning it is not an option, I could pawn it but honestly I didn't buy it for the floyd rose it doesn't even have a trem bar and if it did I likely wouldn't use it. It sounds good. It has a nice neck pickup tone that I like for blues and jazz, it has a humbucker if I wanna do thrash, and it looks nice. It is mostly going to be limited use for track recording on tunes I want to have a guitar part on.

Issue is the center locking nut is stripped so it wont hold the DG strings locked at the nut.

Am I going to have issues keeping this guitar in tune as is? I'm used to a lifetime of tuning my guitar nearly everytime I pick it up, I dont mind that. I'm wondering if there's some function of the locking nut that goes with the floating bridge that is required for guitar to stay in tune at all once it is tuned.

I have a basic level of understanding for subtractive synthesis and so far I've been trying to stay away from presets out of stubbornness and personal taste I suppose, I feel like if I create my own synth sounds I just feel better about it the whole process and I feel like its all upside for me. It's about learning, finished tracks will come in time I'm in no hurry.

Right now I'm using the OB-xd and it's a little difficult at times to understand what exactly it's doing, I do like it, it very much has its own character and sounds great but I'm wondering if there are better synths to learn on. With more knowledge I know I can squeeze some great stuff out of it.

I do have Vital but it feels like it's doing a whole whole lot and there might be something a bit leaner, like more stripped down and fundamental that still has a decent amount of range?

For the time being I'm keeping my plugins/vsts at a minimum, prioritizing learning each thing and what it does over having an entire library of shit I barely understand.

I find that with OB-xd and Vital, despite knowing a little bit about oscillators, waveforms, LFOs, etc, a lot of times things get away from me quickly so to speak, a bit out of control.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

Guys lol I need help, genuinely, I am getting so lost in trying to understand intervals and scales and triads and there's some kind of connective tissue between them that I am missing and I don't know what it is.

I'll do my best to explain what I know so far, if yall could just correct/nudge me in the right direction that'd be fantastic, because I dont know what I dont know.

Intervals I feel like I'm really starting to grasp but I am also 40 and have bad memory so best I can do right now is "calculate" them. If I need the interval from E natural to Bb, I will take a look at E major scale, I see that B is a fifth which is perfect, but flat so it makes the interval a diminished 5th.

I mean, that's a lot of work on the spot but right now rote memorization of major scales is tough, that will come soon enough.

So next I have triads and diatonic triads. Since I've written out the E major scale it's easier, I count the notes in the scale for 3rd and 5th from each root note and then I know what notes each diatonic triad has in it and I use that to identify the triad. If it's 4 semitones then 3, it's major, if 3 then 4 its minor. Then I get (I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi, vii*).

I think this is where I'm really starting to get lost! A major triad is a maj3 interval and perfect 5th interval, and minor triad is min3 interval and perfect 5th, and so forth.

Ok so my head is starting to hurt at this point because that leads me back to my diatonic triads in E major. For any diatonic triad that's NOT E, say for example, G#, I would now have to spell out the G# major scale to know if that first interval is a minor 3rd or a major 3rd?

And if that's the case, what the fuck? Because if I'm building triads I need to know the (quality?) of triad, which how would I know? If I was in the E major scale again trying to figure out what the G# triad is, if I spell out the G# major scale I still can't construct that triad because I wont know if that G# triad needs to be major or minor.

I hope it makes sense as to where I'm getting lost. I feel like I get it but I feel like I am missing something important too and it's bugging the hell out of me.

Thank you.

I might be going crazy but at least I am going

Anyway, I'm fresh as hell to this (most of yall saw my other thread) so be easy please

I can't tell if this is an issue with a shit audio interface (Presonus Audiobox 96) that I run my headphones (HD560S) thru. The audiobox is better than my internal soundcard but it does have it's issues, OR it could be neither of this and something I am doing wrong in Reaper.

I installed Sitala 1.0 and it comes with a solitary 808 drum sample set, it doesn't sound terrible really I just am trying to tinker around for now. Problem is, everytime the kick triggers, there's an audible click. It's not clipping, it's audible at any volume. It happens with the tom as well and probably others.

This don't seem like it should be a thing? Anyway, to fix it I put an EQ on the channel and it disappears with a low pass filter. It also disappears if I use the shape knob in Sitala to cut off the very tip of the waveform I guess it adds the slightest attack.

Is this normal to be doing with drums or is something wrong like my headphones or interface or is it just the stock 808 kit? Seems excessive to have to immediately EQ a drum kit out of the box to get rid of a noise that sounds like an uncomfortable audio glitch.

Just wanna make sure I'm on the right track or if something is fucked up and needs to be replaced.

Thanks yall.

I've goofed around with EDM production before but never took it seriously, decided now at 40 it's time to make some music and dig deep but I'm getting overwhelmed fast and need some guidance.

Background: Tinkered with EDM production never making shit, I know music as a lifelong guitar player and I love EDM and always wanted to make it but got discouraged everytime I tried. FL Studio when it was just Fruity Loops when I was young. Hated it. I never wanna use it again.

Later on in my 20's I got a midi controller and some studio monitors. Didn't do much of anything with them got stuck in the muck with Ableton, didn't commit. Sold it all.

Now: I'm aged, more willing to commit. Bought Arturia Keystep Pro, a good headset, and downloaded Reaper.

I know that Reaper is not beginner friendly, I know it's not the first choice of DAW for EDM. But I have a history of coding, Linux, and am autistic. I am a control freak and enjoy what Reaper seems to be. If I could teach myself X86 I'm not scared of an advanced DAW.

The Problem: I don't know the general flow of making a track. I know so much of the general ideas and bits and pieces and oh man I am so excited to get in and dig deep. Reading manuals watching tutorials, tweaking, fiddling, all of that is no big deal BUT how do I learn the flow?

It's like I'm missing the broad overview here. Maybe I could grab a kick sample and learn how to make it sound perfect, I know I could. But fuck if I know how to use it to make an electronic track.

There's a flow to it all and I don't know how to learn that. As an example of one of many questions I have is like, let's say I get that kick sample that I put some effects on and I wanna lay it down in 4/4, would I be attaching it to MIDI and triggering it that way, or would I be making a single track with it as a waveform and just having it loop throughout? My entire drum section should it be like separate tracks with each drum (kick, snare, hi hat etc) as a waveform, or would I have a single track with each different drum triggered by a midi signal in a piano roll, I guess through some virtual sequencer plugin?

That's what I mean, I'm sorry for the length, I'm just overwhelmed and missing something here.

Trying to sum up: Reaper is difficult, but very doable for me, but learning how to use Reaper doesn't teach me the general way of composing an EDM track, so what can I do to learn Reaper AND learn to compose? I don't want to learn a different DAW, and I don't want to get so bogged down in Reaper that I can't make anything resembling music.

If you read all this you're a hero, thanks for taking your time.

PS - At some point I will be recording and composing with guitar and other instruments, I don't want people thinking I'm crazy for going all in on Reaper, I've done a fair amount of research and it seems perfect for my current and future needs and how I approach my hobbies. If you have an alternative to suggest that's ok I just wanted to be clear on that.

It's the weekend so I can't contact my perio I have to wait til Monday and I'm panicking a bit.

(Gross warning) Had my whole mouth LANAP surgery Wednesday morning, this morning I wake up feeling something soft in my mouth near my canine and I check and there's a blood clot hanging out laying across my canine and my front teeth are bloody from it.

I didn't realize I could leave it there I guess? I kinda pulled it gently down until it came out, I know this wasnt smart but I didn't know what else to do. Of course it began to bleed from that small area between my canine and tooth next to it so I put a cool damp tissue against it until it stopped bleeding, and now it appears there is a much smaller clot between the teeth. I rinsed extremely gently with the mouthwash they gave me and I'm leaving it completely alone.

I will call them first thing Monday morning. I dont feel any pain except maybe a dull throbbing around my canine, and it's not super noticeable but definitely there.

Am I fucked? I might have rinsed last night too hard with the mouthwash I guess? I wasn't trying to but that's the only difference. Other possibility is grinding teeth as I grind on that side. I had asked them about that and they said it's not a worry but everything I look up says a biteguard is necessary.

I'm sure they'll let me know Monday what to do but in the meantime I'm freaking out, any advice?

I have pretty severe gum disease, wont post pics it'd be one of the worse ones you'd see in here.

Loose teeth, inflammed gums, red triangles, all that. Only thing I dont have is much pain. Don't know if that's bad or good. Probably bad.

Anyway tomorrow morning I get full mouth LANAP, sedation, am nervous bout the whole thing. Nervous about sedation, nervous bout losing teeth during the process, nervous about recovery, hell I'm nervous something will go wrong and they'll halt surgery.

For those that have done it, I could use a bit of reassurance. I am very eager to get through this, my only care right now in this world is that I get through this and am given a second chance to take better care of my mouth. Just having a clean mouth for once and maybe even slowed down gum disease will be a blessing.

I'm just scared. Anything you can tell me and any tips you might have would be good. I already am on valium normally prescribed so anxiety could be worse but this is a major event so being scared regardless isn't surprising to me.