r/5MeODMT

hey guys, sorry this is a tad long, but I have to get this across

so I posted about my first ever bufo experience here and it’s been a while since then. I have since had some time to reflect, and I have had a few very low-dose NN-DMT experiences that have allowed for fragments of the previously dissolved memories of the trip to flood back.

I realized that even in my original post, I was coping really bad. I said that it was neither good or bad, but in hindsight it was actually quite an awful, terribly terrifying experience which I got next to nothing out of.

the reality of my experience was that after exhaling the large inhale, I remained in a state of sheer terror, waiting for the experience to be over. I may have not gotten enough in my lungs or something (i’m not sure how that would be physically possible after the state the big rip left me in) but as everything turned into fractals I was telling myself “it’s safe, surrender” and from then on, I just entered a reality of no time and just shapes and meaningless existence , not feeling connected to anything, but not feeling separate from it either. pure limbo, pure terror, with no concept of an alternative to this reality.

also in retrospect, the facilitator and the environment were not optimal. I knew the guy, but not very well, just enough to trust him. but his “guru” demeanor felt very forced.

when I came back all I wanted was a hug and a cigarette and something familiar, I asked him for water, he just ignored the request and said “lay back and think about what it’s trying to tell you.” so coming back from the most terrifying thing i’d ever experienced, feeling like all these identities are nothing more than a joke, I had to take part in this fucking hippie song and dance with him making random ass sounds and making me draw tarot cards. I was counting the seconds til I could get out of the “sanctuary”.

the reason i’m putting this here is i’m just so disappointed. I really came before bufo/5meo with respect, truly wanting to let it take me for the ride and teach me. I have always wanted to try NN, and just the low doses i’ve experienced bring me back to the state of panic I experienced as soon as I exhaled the bufo, as if my consciousness had just been in limbo in between spaces in meaningless shape land.

I had to write this out because in my original post, I realized I was trying to cope with the fact that I was chewed up and spit out by bufo when I was really trying to improve myself and my life. now, because of this experience, despite my deep deep deep curiosity to meet NN entities and see higher dimensional landscapes, i’m terrified to hit the pen for more than 5 seconds

what did I do wrong?

so I had an experience with 5meo not too long ago and I wouldn’t necessarily call it a good experience. it was with a facilitator but I was very scared of the way it all came on. I would say the best part of the experience for me was coming back. at the peak, I can’t say I saw the white light, but I also definitely was not aware of my
body. I didn’t feel any kind of oneness and connection, it was more just a limbo of looping sound and endless 2d geometry that I was now in outside of time and self.

now I want to try NN because somehow after that i’m still very called to do it, and got my hands on a decently concentrated vape pen. i’ve never done NN before, but I just hit the pen a few times just to get a feel for the body load and sort of a threshold/non-ego-death dose. and I have to say just feeling it I got extremely anxious and brought back to my previous experience. in a way, as much as that experience had faded, just this tiny taste of NN brought back a big chunk of the memories- specifically how it felt on the onset.

could my previous experience have just seeded negativity? I don’t know what to make of it as I do feel very called to smoke DMT. I dream about it almost every night. I can’t explain the calling. the first and only time I did it (5meo of course) it whooped my ass. too many preconceived notions. I literally got deleted into an infinite limbo of geometry, came back, gripped the ground for dear life, and now i’m dreaming about smoking dmt every night. and on top of THAT, I just hit a teeny tiny bit and all that came up was anxiety. thoughts?

I’ve had several bufo experiences and recently a 5meo experience. It was pretty powerful although I didn’t fully blast off, part of the ego was still conscious.

I’ve been in good spirits since, as I always am with this compound. But OMG I have never felt this fatigued.
I get a bit of energy in the morning after my morning coffee but I crash and burn late morning and throughout the afternoon. If I sit down to watch something I’ll fall asleep within ten minutes. It’s been a few weeks now.

I understand everything is recalibrating and it can take time. But I was wondering if anyone has experienced the same and if you have any tips for getting the energy back up? I have a busy few weeks coming up and I expected my energy levels to be back to normal.

Thanks in advance!

I have gotten very experienced with 5-Meo-DMT over the past few years and especially over the past 6 months. I smoke low to high dose synthetic 5-meo through a vape. Now that I am quite experienced with it, I can smoke it quite consistently over the course of an hour or so maintaining the high for that duration without it being an overwhelming experience. I have had some incredible experiences, one of which is meeting narcissistic Jesus.

I was raised fundamentalist Christian and had a deconversion experience in my early twenties. I was an angry atheist for a while and then agnostic and then had a breakthrough LSD session which has taken me into a more psychedelic based, multidimensional spirituality that values God in us - God Consciousness in the 13th dimension.

Over the course of a couple of months, I met and talked with Jesus a number of times. Before these experiences I had kind of come to the conclusion that Jesus was somewhat narcissistic as his church says that he is the son of God and in my mind we're projecting out our own God consciousness onto Jesus.

The first time I met Jesus here in the past couple of months under the influence of 5-meo-dmt and LSD, we talked about non-dual awareness and advaita vedanta. I was trying to be respectful as he is a very powerful spiritual leader of the past 2000 years. But he did seem to be struggling a little bit with the idea that we are all God.

Then a couple weeks later, I had a very disturbing experience with Jesus on 5, where I saw him going through the gullet of a reptilian along with another pedophile. He asked her what she was in for as they were descending to hell and she said pedophilia. He literally giggled and said, oh I've been there. This showed me he had virtually no remorse for what I understood to be the major problem of pedophilia in the Catholic church. Then on another related 5 trip, I saw or intuited a vision of him behind the eyes of his Catholic priests as they raped children. It was a very disturbing image. I may have discounted it completely, as I have also experienced some level of delusion on psychedelics. But, there is a strong basis in reality for pedophilia as a major problem in the Catholic church.

Then I had a 4th eye-opening and stunning experience on 5. I was listening to "I love you Lord", a Christian worship song. It is quite a beautiful song, and now there is new meaning in it for me as I sing this song for my own self and friends, recognizing and honouring the God in each of us.

I love you Lord,

And I lift my voice,

To worship you,

Oh my soul rejoice.

Take joy my king (and queen)

In what you hear.

May it be a sweet, sweet sound

In your ears.

I've enjoyed singing this with people in my life who I care about deeply. I feel there is a strong need to recognize God in each of us. One of the main reasons I left Christianity was because it seemed to project our power on to Jesus. But, in the end we all are steering our own canoes (a line I read by David R. Hawkins). We each have to take responsibility for our own lives, ultimately.

But Jesus showed up and was having just an incredible time enjoying the song in what seemed to me the most masturbatory way possible. He was giggling and so excited that I was singing I Love you Lord as he assumed it was about him. I saw him going to Yahweh, who he called "Daddy" and was so happy to be having a worship song sung to him by me. Yahweh was about as unimpressed as I was by him. It actually seemed to me like there is some brain damage or something that caused him to act so stunningly childish and narcissistic. I was reading the comments to the song and it is a Christian song so I was not surprised to see a comment that said "Jesus saved me and I'm so grateful he loves me so much." So I asked Jesus if he loves him and he giggled "No." He seems embarrassed by his church (as would I). It felt like Jesus must be on a strong opiate or something (I was not, last time I tried opiates was about 10 years ago), as he was just so ridiculously happy about being the Son of God, like a young prince being the ruler of his kingdom. But it was very selfish and gross. The worst and most hilarious, is during the song (it was a 20 minute extended version), he started masturbating and splooged on my face.

By this point, I was taking it in stride. It was jaw-dropping (though I kept my mouth closed as he astral splooged on my face), but I was trying to let it go and take the truth seriously, that I am God, as we all are, and whatever sick version of Jesus this was, I don't need to get livid about it. But it was extremely disturbing to see the son of God splooging in narcissistic delight... Lol.

I do think there is at least some truth to it (and I'm definitely open to the idea that it really is true, full stop). I have had some experience with delusions over the past couple years of psychedelic use, but I try to hold what I'm experiencing with an open palm and let stay what stays and let go what goes. So I don't know if I was really talking with Jesus though I do believe I was and maybe I was experiencing a perception through my lens of difficulty with the church and Christianity, but there is a strong basis in reality for serious theological error and heinous crimes that the church has committed.

I wanted to share as it's the most hilarious and shocking experience of my 5-meo journey so far. Let me know your thoughts :)

Hi, I'll briefly tell you about my experience. I didn't consult any forums for the dosages; I extrapolated from all the existing literature.

This is my third week taking five 1mg intranasal microdoses spread throughout the day. I've been on medication for severe depression for three years; I currently take 10mg of escitalopram daily.

Well, my anxiety has almost disappeared. I'm starting to go out again, and I feel more energetic. There are even times when I feel really good.

I hope it's not just a placebo effect, but after three years of feeling so down, I highly doubt it.

I'll report back later if I continue to improve or if it was just a mirage. Any advice would be appreciated.

Best regards.

Hello !
I'm an experienced psychonaut, and I only travel alone. That's how I'm used to do it, and how I feel safe.

I have taken N,N-DMT maybe 15-20 times. I had vape cartridges. I worked OK, but it was quite difficult to get near a breakthrough, I needed to inhale quite a lot.

I now have freebase 5-MEO-DMT. I know nothing about vapes, mesh, and I find it quite difficult to understand the simplest way to vaporize it, even after a lot of reading. I'm looking to have the strongest and simplest hit, while staying safe if I'm alone. (which means no burning element which could cause fire when I'm at the point of inhaling).

Fellow psychonauts, how would you do it?

Many thanks

I started experimenting with 5-meo-dmt about 2 weeks ago and have been dosing every 2-3 days building up to a higher and higher dose.

My question is just is there any known risks with this approach and vaping it every few days? Should I wait longer between? I just don’t want to accidentally do any damage to myself

Over a year ago I bought a 5meo cart in the same order as some ketamine, I had the memory of a acid trip that a friend had a 5meodmt cart with and the expectation it would be an appetizer. Needless to say when it came I just threw up in my garbage can and put it in a drawer to sit until the other day. A lot has happened since then, I took it easy yet leaned into it. I’ve had the idea to do this in a field coz I am someone that purges from this drug. Any thought or tips on leaning into this. I think over the last year I have done good work on myself and I think I’ve met this drug more than halfway if you wanna put it that way.

All this obsession with breaking through. Jaguar is an amazing medicine to work with, so work with it. Forget about this breakthrough obsession. Just forget about it. See what the medicine has to teach you, that’s it. No more. Enough.

Hey psychonauts, so I have CFS, was mild but now progressed to a more moderate one. I spent the last 2 months severely limited, one month in bed. Still not fully out of a flare up. I am supposed to have a buff ceremony in about 3 weeks and I'm scared whether my body will be ok with it, or whether to postpone. I'm really scared of fuckin up my body more, right now I still need to be very cautious with any intense physical or emotional experiences. Thoughts?

​Six months ago, I posted on a forum asking for help because I couldn’t achieve a breakthrough no matter what I tried—I had attempted 37 mg rectally, as well as 20 mg and 10+ mg via inhalation. I still haven't broken through yet, but I have discovered two methods.

​The first method is taking MAOIs. I do not recommend this; it is very dangerous. However, after taking an MAOI on one occasion, I took just a small hit of 5-MeO-DMT—my goodness, just a tiny hit, and I nearly broke through! But I don't dare try it again because of how dangerous it is.

​The second method happened two weeks ago when I was with a friend. I took a big hit of 5-MeO-DMT, held it in for a bit, and exhaled. As expected, I didn't break through. Annoyed, I picked it up and took another deep hit, holding my breath. At that moment, I suddenly felt a bizarre, wonderful sensation. I quickly lay down and felt my body dissolving. Regrettably, I still didn't break through, but I am convinced that just a little bit more would have done it.

​This experience gave me an idea: for non-responders like me, perhaps the trick is to take a big hit, hold it briefly, exhale, and then immediately take another massive hit—holding the second one in as long as possible. That might make breaking through much easier.

​Also, I have a question: after using 5-MeO-DMT a few times, I no longer experience any uncomfortable sensations—no tension, consciousness collapse, or fear whatsoever. I feel very calm now, even quite comfortable. Is this normal? Does everyone experience this?

I have insanely bad mental health issues. I saw how effective 5 meo dmt was for anxiety and mdd which is why 5 meo peaked my interest. I am unable to find a facilitator nor do i have the money. My friend is down to trip sit me but i dont know how good of an idea this is for me. I am at the end of my road nothing works for me and i am kind of hopeless when it comes to my mental health. I was planning to replicate the one john hopkins study and smoke 6-12-18 mg but i want to hear you guys opinions on my approach for symptom relief for anxiety and depression. Is it to risky conserdering my mental health struggles to smoke 5 meo. Could a bad trip make my struggles worse thats really all i am afrad of that and i am afraid to get sucked into some other exstistential fear or i am scared to draw horrific conclusions about my exsistence or uncover something horrifying about the universe because i am going to be quite honest here i already assume the worst when it comes to that which makes me even more scared that it will turn out horrible for me. But then again i dont think its possible for my life to get much worse and i almost dont see any other options as ive exhausted many. My question is if you look at my situation is it a bad idea to smoke 5 meo dmt the only things i am worried about is the two things preciously mentioned i dont care about physical harm to myself i dont care if the trip itself is absolutely terrifying i am ready to die for it. Maybe unrelated but i tought i was dying once and it was the most peacefull experience ive had in a long long while. Sorry for the ramble but i am at the end of the road here thanks for reading and your help. I love you