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If only…… (British Prime ministers in an…alternate timeline) (fixed…hopefully)

  1. Farmer, David Cameron posing for a picture during the filming of "My Oxfordshire Farm" a long running TV series of how a British farmer operates his farm year round. The series would run from 2009-2019, taking a small break during 2020-2022 due to the Covid-19 pandemic then resuming on the 12th November 2022. Circa 2014. Theories arose that Cameron had been engaging in "acts" against the animals on his show, since theories have been debunked by people on set.

  2. Radio Host and Disc Jockey, Gordon Brown (nicknamed Golden Brown) breaking down after hearing the news of Queen Elizabeth II passing. Circa 2022.

  3. Children's entertainer and Philanthropist, Tony Blair speaking infront of 10 Downing Street after receiving a knighthood by Queen Elizabeth II for "Outstanding Services to Children's Entertainment and Mental Health" (basically this TL version of Julia Donaldson or Roald Dahl, they both still exist in the TL though) Circa 1999

  4. Horse Jockey, John Major petting his horse, Admire Grove after winning the 2003 Queen Elizabeth II Commemorative Cup. John Major would later go on and win the 2004 and 2007 Queen Elizabeth II Commemorative Cup's.

Circa 2003

  1. Artisan and Inventor of the Magnum Ice Cream, Maggie Thatcher selling Ice Cream from her own truck, Thatcher would be credited in making the patent for a rounded ice cream covered in dark chocolate coating. Naming it Magnum, in 1972 Thatcher would travel the country selling Ice cream for 3 decades, retiring in 2002. Circa 1997
u/tylerhasmemes — 8 hours ago

If only…… (British Prime ministers in an…alternate timeline)

  1. Brewer and Businessman Keir Starmer trying his own beer, Golden Harvest Lager for the first time. Circa 2018.

  2. Professional Skier, Rishi Sunak after an incident in which he breaks his fibula, leaving him in crutches. He would later return to skiing with the help of his daughter. Circa 2007.

  3. Comedian, Liz Truss (nicknamed Liz Trust Fund due to her family's wealth) mocking prime minister, Susie Laing who infamously made the country worse off then resigned after just 25 days lasting less time than a Lettuce. Circa 2023.

  4. After a minor stint in politics Professional Boxer, Boris Johnson (nicknamed The Brawns of Britain) trains for his first match back against Kevin Bennet, Circa 2014.

  5. Farmer, David Cameron posing for a picture during the filming of "My Oxfordshire Farm" a long running TV series of how a British farmer operates his farm year round. The series would run from 2009-2019, taking a small break during 2020-2022 due to the Covid-19 pandemic then resuming on the 12th November 2022. Circa 2017.

  6. Radio Host and Disc Jockey, Gordon Brown (nicknamed Golden Brown) breaking down after hearing the news of Queen Elizabeth II passing. Circa 2022.

u/tylerhasmemes — 14 hours ago

Happy 4th of July. What are some interesting alternate history Scenarios that are not what if Germany won World War 2 Or the confederate states of america being successful?

Effectively, it is what are some alternate History scenarios involving the united states but it's not the cliche alternate history scenarios like what if the confederacy won the civil war

u/Snoo_49201 — 24 hours ago
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“Take a look around you, at the world we've come to know. Does it seem to be much more than a crazy circus show? Maybe from the madness, something beautiful will grow…” - The United States as of its 250th - Three Titanesses

Three Titanesses (TT) is my crappy little project I've been working on for sometime, combining alt history with some worldbuilding and other silly shenanigans.

The world is locked in a triple cold war between America, Germany, and Japan. (All of whom are huge now) All three are hellbent on getting ahead using both conventional and non conventional means. Only time will tell if Democracy, Monarchy, or Imperialism will prove to be the best.

Da Lore (For America)

The Quebec act of 1775 doesn't pass, therefore pushing Quebec to join the revolution. This pushes other Canadian colonies to join the war as well. Specifically Nova Scotia, St. Johns Island (PEI), and Newfoundland. Once the war is over, Britain is forced to hand over more territory in North America. Specifically everything but Rupert's land, Jamaica, Belize, and the lesser Antilles islands. Over time the US gradually expands to hold a good chunk of the north American continent.

-Liberia doesn't declare independence so America just keeps it.

-British Honduras is purchased in 1842 to help balance Free and Slave states.

-Oregon country is claimed completely in 1846. Britain isn't bothered enough to contest.

-A larger portion of Mexico is taken in the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The Federal Republic of Central America joins the war on America's side and helps a little bit, gaining Chiapas,

-Rupert's Land is purchased in 1850.

-Alaska is purchased like OTL, though it's very slightly bigger.

-As well as Santo Domingo, Iceland, Greenland, and the DVI shortly after.

-Samoa is completely given to America

-Spain loses more in the Spanish American war (specifically the Canary islands, Spanish Sahara, Micronesia, and the whole of the Mariana Islands), and America keeps Cuba.

-Due to Quebec, as well as the larger portion of Mexico being annexed, the US is overall somewhat less racist, at least in comparison to OTL though the Trail of Tears still happens so there's still a ways to go. (It's really easy to question my optimism sometimes)

-The Québécois end up moving West like their Anglo brethren, settling mostly in neighboring states like Huron, Chippewa, Jefferson, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ontario, and Cadillac. As well, many loyalists end up moving into Ontario, creating a mix of English and French culture.

-The proposed state of Franklin is admitted as the 20th state shortly after Kentucky.

-West Virginia is broken off from Virginia earlier than OTL. As well, more states (Tallahatchie and Chickasaw) are formed in the American South. All for free and slave state balance.

-All these states except Tallahatchie side with the union in the civil war. Although a big portion of Chickasaw is occupied by the rebel scum. Also, a bit of northern Georgia breaks off and becomes the state of Chattahoochee.

-After losing a huge chunk of their North America holdings, Britain puts some more effort into their invasion of Argentina during the Napoleonic wars, eventually pushing Spain to hand it over. Britain gives them a bunch of money and the British Virgin Islands to make them shut up. Spain attaches them to Puerto Rico, then proceeds to lose them after the Spanish American war…

-Britain also puts a little more effort and focus into colonizing Oceania, thus pushing New Zealand and Fiji to join Australia.

-Woodrow Wilson fucking dies so William Jennings Bryan runs and wins in 1912, meanwhile Germany doesn't send the Zimmerman telegram, keeping America out of WWI and allowing the Central Powers to win. Albeit after some silly shenanigans in Russia. Lenin also catches a bad case of dying.

-Later on a revanchist fascist France and a “Democratic” white Russia end up starting WWII with Britain and Germany respectively. The USA is pulled into the war by Spain (Who is allies with France in this TL) when they do a Pearl Harbor style attack on the Canary Islands. America joins the war on the side of Britain, Germany, and Japan and they wipe the floor with the Axis. (Japan is with the Allies by virtue of China siding with the Axis)

-Germany invents Nukes and uses one on Volgograd.

-After the war France is split in half and Russia is mutilated. However Germany and America quickly have a falling out after Germany annexes part of Poland and the US tests a nuke, and a cold war starts between them. Japan soon after becomes a third contender in the cold war after exploiting their new puppets getting themselves Nukes as well.

Unfortunately I had to shrink the original image due to Reddit’s file size limit. So here's the “True Size" version on Dropbox.

True Size TT USA

Also here are my wonderous Inspirations

u/ajw20_YT's

The New Colossus 1

and

The New Colossus 2

u/sajan_01's

A More Perfect Union

and

u/Gourg_Pie's

Classroom map of a wider United States

Happy 250th America

^(I know most of you here probably figured but for safety:)

^(This map isn’t meant to support any political movements or beliefs. This is merely a work of Alternate History and Worldbuilding. I don’t support any nation being absorbed into another unless a majority of its population supports such a union. Have a happy Independence day {or Philippine Republic Day if you live there :) })

u/WendigoSpice — 1 day ago

What would South America be like if Louisiana hadn't been sold in 1803? Southern Eagle Uchronia.

Image: Southamerica in 1890 after Treaty of Portales.

It all begins in 1803, when Napoleon decides not to sell Louisiana to the United States, considering the territory too important to give up. Because of this decision, Britain is able to occupy New Orleans in 1809 after a military campaign, establishing a strong presence along the Mississippi River. The United States sees the British occupation of New Orleans as a direct threat to its expansion westward, leading to the Anglo-American War of 1812–1815. The war ends in a British victory, forcing the United States to recognize the Mississippi River as its western border. As a result, the United States never achieves Manifest Destiny, and its ability to pressure the rest of the Americas is greatly reduced. Without a dominant northern power expanding across the continent, South America is left with far more freedom to develop its own political and military balance.

In 1833, the War of the Farrapos breaks out between the Empire of Brazil and the rebels of Pará, Amazonia, and Rio Grande do Sul. What begins as a regional rebellion in southern Brazil quickly expands into a wider crisis, with northern separatist movements opening new fronts against the imperial government. After several decisive battles, Brazil is forced to surrender in 1839 and recognize the independence of Pará, Amazonia, and Rio Grande do Sul. Chile recognizes and assists Rio Grande during the conflict, seeing the weakening of Brazil as a strategic opportunity. This early support creates a close relationship between both states, and in 1840 their defensive alliance is formally established.

In 1836, the War of the Confederation begins between Peru-Bolivia and the alliance of Chile and Argentina. In our timeline, Blanco Encalada withdrew after the failure of the first expedition and signed the Treaty of Paucarpata. In this alternate timeline, however, he refuses to return empty-handed and instead captures the port of Cobija. After the war, Chile annexes Cobija in the peace settlement, giving the country an earlier and stronger position in the nitrate-rich north.

By 1843, Chile seeks to expand further into Patagonia and founds the city of Portales in Neuquén, named in honor of the deceased Chilean leader Diego Portales. This expansion is helped by the Treaty of Peace and Friendship with indigenous groups, in which Chile recognizes their autonomy in exchange for weapons, protection, and mutual cooperation. This allows Chile to expand rapidly along the Colorado River, founding several settlements and strengthening its presence in Patagonia.

In 1844, the Second War of the Farrapos breaks out. This time, new rebels from Goiás, Mato Grosso, and Rondônia rise against the weakened Empire of Brazil, supported by Rio Grande and Amazonia. Brazil, still damaged by the previous war, is unable to contain the rebellion. Rio Grande expands further north, Amazonia also gains new territories, and several new states become independent. The war ends with the further balkanization of Brazil and a republican coup that brings down the imperial system.

The Argentine Civil War also develops differently from our timeline. Instead of the unification process that occurred historically, the Federalists win in 1861 after the Battle of Cepeda. This creates a much weaker, more divided, and more separatist Argentina, unable to project power in the same way as in real history.

Between 1851 and 1860, Rio Grande do Sul begins a process of growing influence over Uruguay. By 1855, after the death of Rio Grandese ministers appointed in Uruguay, a civil war breaks out. The conflict ends with the victory of the pro-Rio Grande faction, turning Uruguay into a dependent state under Rio Grandese influence.

During the 1860s and 1870s, Chile experiences a nitrate boom. Because it had annexed Cobija earlier, Chile discovers and exploits nitrate resources sooner than in our timeline. The country produces nitrate on a much larger scale and benefits economically from its export. This creates a demographic boom, strengthens the Chilean state, and provides greater funding for military modernization.

By the late 1870s, Chile had become much stronger thanks to the nitrate boom in the north. The earlier annexation of Cobija had allowed Chile to discover, exploit, and export nitrate on a much larger scale, giving the country more money, better infrastructure, and a more modern military. This also made Chilean companies and workers increasingly important in the Atacama region, where nitrate had become one of the most valuable resources in South America.

The crisis began when Bolivia raised taxes on Chilean nitrate companies from 5% to 10%. Chile considered this a violation of previous agreements, while Bolivia saw it as a way to reassert control over its resources. When the Chilean companies refused to pay, the Bolivian government responded by expropriating Chilean-owned nitrate properties and attacking Chilean interests in Tocopilla. For Chile, this was the breaking point. Santiago ordered the navy north, and the conflict quickly escalated into the first phase of the Great South American War: the War of the Pacific.

At the start, the war was focused on control of the coast. Chile landed troops in Tocopilla in 1879 and began securing the desert ports, while Peru entered the war because of its secret alliance with Bolivia. Naval control became decisive. Battles such as Iquique, Punta Gruesa, and the capture of the Huáscar gave Chile dominance over the Pacific, allowing it to move troops, supplies, and artillery along the coast far more effectively than Peru or Bolivia could respond.

Once Chile controlled the sea, the war expanded inland. The Chilean army advanced through the desert and into the Andean interior, fighting for key positions such as Calama, Arica, Tacna, Oruro, Puno, and Juliaca. The campaign was not a simple coastal invasion; it became a long war of logistics, mountain routes, ports, railways, and desert supply lines. Bolivia was slowly pushed back from the coast and the highlands, while Peru lost control of much of its southern territory, Chile even attempted to land in Lima in 1881, but failed because it concentrated all its forces on the northern front.

Between 1882 and 1885, Chile experienced a paralysis on the northern front due to the high plateau and poor logistics, turning the conflict into a violent war of attrition. For this reason, Chile landed troops in Lima again at the end of 1882, although they were still unable to advance beyond occupying the coastal districts.

By 1884, Peru and Bolivia were severely weakened, but neither accepted Chilean terms. The Conference of Antofagasta failed, and the war continued into 1885. At that point, the conflict changed completely. Argentina, worried by Chile’s growing power and its expansion in Patagonia, issued an ultimatum over the southern border. Chile refused to back down, and Argentina entered the war. This marked the beginning of the second phase: the Great Southamerican War.

The Great Southamerican War transformed the conflict from a Pacific war into a full South American struggle. Chile was now joined by its allies, especially Rio Grande do Sul and Paraguay, while Argentina fought alongside the already weakened Peru and Bolivia. The war expanded across several fronts: Patagonia, the Río de la Plata, the Chaco, Bolivia, Peru, and the Argentine interior.

Argentina expected to contain Chile in Patagonia and pressure its allies, but the war quickly became harder than expected. Rio Grande do Sul opened a front in the Atlantic and along the Plata region, while Paraguay attacked from the north. Chile continued pushing through Bolivia and Peru while also fighting Argentina in the south. Instead of facing one enemy, Argentina was forced to divide its army across multiple fronts, weakening its ability to respond effectively.

As the war dragged on, the Argentine situation worsened. Allied naval pressure, blockades, internal instability, and the strain of feeding several fronts created a major logistical collapse. Buenos Aires tried to hold the war effort together, but the interior became increasingly unstable and exhausted. The conflict became less about single decisive battles and more about the collapse of Argentina’s ability to keep fighting.

By 1888, Bolivia was effectively defeated. By 1889, Peru was also forced out of the war and allies financed revolts in the Argentinians Provinces. Argentina was left isolated, surrounded, and exhausted. In 1890, the allied forces launched the final campaign against Buenos Aires. After the fall of the city, Mendoza, Salta, Tucuman,¿ and Cordoba declared independence, while Entre Rios was occuped by Rio Grande do Sul. Argentina could no longer continue the war, and the remaining governments were forced to negotiate.

The war officially ended with the Treaty of Portales in 1890. The treaty completely reorganized South America. Chile emerged as the dominant power of the Pacific, Rio Grande do Sul became the main power of the Atlantic south, Paraguay gained influence in the interior, and the defeated states were left weakened, occupied, divided, or politically controlled.

Chile emerged as the main winner of the treaty. It secured control over the nitrate-rich northern territories, strengthened its position in Patagonia, and became the dominant power on the Pacific coast. Bolivia lost its access to the sea and was left politically weakened, while Peru was placed under heavy Chilean influence and forced to accept major territorial and military restrictions.

Argentina suffered the harshest consequences. The country was divided, occupied, and politically reorganized after the collapse of Buenos Aires. Rio Grande do Sul expanded its influence over the Río de la Plata region, while Paraguay gained greater control and prestige in the interior. The treaty also imposed reparations, disarmament, and foreign oversight on the defeated powers.

For the victorious states, the Treaty of Portales created a new balance of power in South America. For the defeated countries, it became a symbol of humiliation and foreign domination. Although it ended the war, it also planted the seeds of future resentment, nationalism, and revenge movements that would later destabilize the continent again.

The treaty, for the defeated countries created deep resentment across the continent. In Argentina, Peru, and Bolivia, Portales became a symbol of humiliation, foreign domination, and national collapse. The defeated countries were left unstable, economically damaged, and politically divided, which allowed extremist and revanchist movements to grow in the following decades. Although the treaty ended the Great South American War, it did not bring real peace; it only froze the conflict and prepared the ground for future wars.

You can also visit the alternate history wiki at these links: Main Page , Great Southamerican War

u/Jost_Dapard — 19 hours ago

What if the US had won the War of 1812?

1.U.S.A. After winning the War of 1812, it managed to acquire many Canadian territories, leading to the creation of states such as Quebec, New Florida (formerly New England), etc. It also annexed western territories and northern Mexico during the Mexican-American War.

  1. Republic of Alaska. During the Anglo-American War, the Russian army joined the offensive, advancing eastward from Alaska. Alaska remained part of Russia until its collapse in 1917. The state is currently experiencing a crisis and is heavily dependent on the United States.

  2. Protectorate of Canada. The state was established after the War of 1812 and became directly dependent on the United States of America. Ideas of declaring independence from the U.S. are currently gaining traction within the country.

  3. Confederation of Latin American States. Following its humiliating defeat in 1846, Mexico decided to push south and annexed most of Central America within a few years.

  4. Caribbean Republic. Established in 1859 at the initiative of the United States. The state is currently on the brink of collapse.

Belated Happy 4th of July!

u/guy_from_mars13 — 12 hours ago
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Flag of the Rite of the Painted Church (Worldbuilding / Alternate History)

This flag is for an alternative historical continuation of the tradition of the Painted Churches of Texas, a real-life handful of small Roman Catholic, Lutheran, and Methodist (or Wesleyan) churches founded across Texas by German and Czech immigrants.

In this alternate history scenario, instead of these churches maintaining denominational differences while still maintaining general "painted" traditions (these churches focused on beautiful painted wooden interiors instead of traditional stone architectural due to limited resources), they find themselves homogenizing in tradition and theologies until they establish themselves as a dedicated Rite (or practice of faith), inculturated into the German-Texan/Czech-Texan cultural tradition, claiming to still be under the authority of the Pope.

However, in this same history, as the tradition spreads heavily it becomes theologically and traditionally highly-derived and adopts many of those same Lutheran and Methodist/Wesleyan ideologies that were already present from the start. This leads to the condemnation of the tradition of the "Painted Rite" by the Vatican and it's eventual excommunication.

After the Rite's excommunication, the Rite forms it's own counsels that align themselves with the Roman Catholic Church traditionally, but end up still having to govern themselves as a product of their own excommunication.

Their chants/worship, rites, and other traditions end up becoming a very deep blend between Catholic tradition and Protestant theology (to some degree, though most of it's theology is Catholic in essence).

Continuing into the modern day, the tradition ends up splitting on theological bases oriented around traditional Catholic/Lutheran/Wesleyen-derived theology and more modern, single-faith, scholarly theologies (think the theological/biblical teachings of Tim Mackie, Wesley Huff, and others). This doesn't result in a schism as the Rite of the Painted Church did not consider itself a denomination but still a practice under Catholicism. This results in the Counsel of the Painted Rite claiming the Rite to be a "Single-Faith and Nicene" tradition regarding participation, where only committed, consecrated roles are expected to submit to specific traditional teachings. Functionally a denomination, but not claiming denominational "sovereignty".

There are more details than this as it's one of my more thought out worldbuilding concepts, but this is what I will describe for now.

What do y'all think?

u/yeetusfacetious — 1 day ago
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E Pluribus Unum | What If The USA Was A Multilingual Country?

This is an alternate history scenario I made for the 4th of July! Sorry if its a little bad I'm not a historian I just like to make maps for fun and I kinda procrastinated on this too. Regardless I hope ya'll enjoy!

The main divergence in this world is the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam, in our world Dutch in New York faded away pretty fast but in this one anglicization efforts by the British fail and more effort by the New Amsterdamers to keep their language alive in the region result in Dutch being more major than it was in our world. By the time the American revolution happens New Amsterdam sides with the revolutionary colonies. New Amsterdam politicians also manage to convince Quebec to rebel too since unlike our timeline the New Amsterdam shows it isn't a purely English movement. The US with Quebec's help manage to kick the British off the continent with the British only holding Newfoundland and Caribean colonies (Newfoundland would later be acquired by the US in 1812 war). After independence the US struggles more with uniting since New Amsterdamers and Quebecers often join forces against the English States due to fears of being overshadowed in an English Majority country this delays the first presidential election to 1792. Washington still becomes president like in our timeline but Jefferson becomes his VP since Jefferson is better connected to French language Americans unlike Adams, once Washington dies in his second term in 1799 Jefferson steps up as his successor (although he does feud with congress over it). Presidents in this timeline need to know more languages to connect better to the voters and this is a trend that'd show up through history, Jefferson with help from New Amsterdam and Quebec beats Adams in 1800 and with his VP George Clinton who is able to help Jefferson connect to all Americans. As the US expands further West a problem arises of which language group gets what. The great Lakes become a hot point of contension since all three of the founding language groups claim this as their own territory even though the constitution states protects languages of being spoken in the first amendment. Jefferson makes a compromise by letting the Dutch settle the area and appeasing the French Americans with the Louisiana purchase this makes the Quebecers and New Amsterdamers happy since this gives them better footing to stand up against the English majority in the country. Jefferson after serving 8 full years resigns his presidency willingly being the first president to do so as a way of respecting Washington's 2 term tradition. Madison wins in 1808 and 1812, and Monroe wins in 1816 and 1820. In 1824 the Federalists never once holding the presidency collapse and it's a four way race between democratic-republicans. John Quincy Adams doesn't make it far despite being the son of a founding father instead DeWitt Clinton takes his place. Jackson wins in 1828 and 1832, Martin Van Buren then wins as his successor in 1836, whilst he does know English and still uses English throughout his presidency Buren is the first President to serve primarily in a language that isn't English. Many presidents in this world tend to choose French or Dutch language VPs with Washington being the only president not to up to this point, having a one language ticket is pretty disadvantageous in a national election so William Harrison and his VP Webster become the first and only elected ticket in the nation's history after Washington that didn't natively speak to any non-English language, this is because they won by uniting the English vote together but as the nation diversified it never happened again. Texas in this timeline still breaks away from Mexico and follows in the footsteps of the US by being a trilingual country (with English, French, and Spanish being spoken within its claimed borders) and as the US annexes Texas and moves further West the question arises of which language gets to settle the newly conquered territories. It was decided that Spanish would become the lingua franca for anyone who wanted to go out west with Texas being the only former Mexican state that is majority English. The multilingual acceptance of this US also allows Spanish states like Arizona and New Mexico get to be states way sooner since the south wants more states to counteract the growing north and keep balance, due to Canada adding so many more states to the north the Mason-Dixon line was raised further north to the southern border of Kansas. Kansas in this timeline is also a slave state, this is due to the fact that many who wanted to go to Kansas to turn it free need to not only travel a long distance but also learn French meaning the pro-slave French Louisianans have an advantage when the state was deciding whether to be free or slave. The Mormons in this world also exist with them trying to appeal across language, eventually they try to create their own language as an American Esperanto but it doesn't really stick outside Utah. Many describe the language as being American Afrikaans with French influences. Abraham Lincoln in this world would be an exceptional candidate for president since in this world he has an English family and lives in a Dutch community letting him speak both Dutch and English and he also learns French too which allows him to speak to most Americans in their native language directly, this gets him elected in 1860 and as in our world this leads to the civil war, the civil war in this world lasts a little longer but still leads to the same conclusion. When Lincoln got shot however his VP George-Étienne Cartier becomes president. Cartier is a Quebecer and unlike Johnson is an abolitionist, instead of feuding with congress like Johnson did in our world he'd carry out Lincoln's plans and moderate with Congress over specifics this leads to a cleaner reconstruction although it isn't perfect. Cartier is also the first president to serve in French. after Cartier a long line of Republicans get elected, first Grant, then Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Blaine, and Harrison. From Lincoln to Harrison republicans have held the presidency for over 30 years non-stop this allows them to bring in a lot of abolitionist policies but also a lot of corruption. The Democrats are still around but they struggle to take the presidency since they can't win Quebec and Canada, Cleveland was the only candidate that got close but it wasn't enough, William Jennings Bryan would be the democrat to break the cycle as progressivism and populism becomes more popular among Americans. After Bryan served his 2 terms Roosevelt would bring the republicans back to the white house in 1904, his successor Taft would only serve 1 term though as he is defeated by the democratic Judson Harmon who brings the US into the second world war. Hiram Johnson wins in 1924 and becomes the US's first Spanish speaking president, he'd win reelection although the hot potato of the great depression ruins his otherwise popular presidency and brings FDR to the top. FDR is like in our timeline the first and only president to serve 4 terms. Harry Truman ascends to the presidency after he dies. in 1960 the race between Eisenhower's VP Nixon and the charismatic John F. Kennedy results in the closest election in US history with Kennedy and his Iowa VP Paul Martin narrowly winning. History follows the same lines as it does in our world although once Nixon resigns his VP John Lindsay would become president. Unlike Ford Lindsay is runs a better campaign in 1976 not making the same gaffes as Ford did this allows the Republicans to hold onto the presidency even after the Watergate scandal. Lindsay being the former mayor of New York the most diverse city in the world keeps him in office for a second term, once 1984 comes around Reagan is far too old to run, Lindsay's VP George H.W. Bush does instead. Bush faces off in an election against Jesse Jackson and narrowly loses. Jackson serves for 2 terms, in 1992 his Arkansas VP runs against Bob Dole and Ross Perot but Perot spoils the election for the GOP and again in 1996 too. In 2000 John McCain gets elected, Obama then wins as the first president to be able to speak Hawaiian and in 2016 Donald Trump loses the primary due to lack of support from Spanish voters, Cruz wins the primary but Trump spoils the election for Republicans as he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Trump like Perot runs again as a 3rd party in 2020 handing Clinton a narrow second term but he doesn't run in 2024. 2024 results in the victory of Florida governor Ron DeSantis and his VP Doug Burgum.

I hope ya'll enjoyed my scenario! If you have any questions I'd happily answer them and I'm open to critique if you have any (although keep it civil and polite)

u/Single_Pin_3359 — 1 day ago
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Polish troops fought for Haiti's independence and none of the Haitians I've talked to knew this

I'm Polish and I've been living in the Dominican Republic for 3 years now. A while back I learned that Napoleon sent Polish troops to Saint-Domingue to help crush the Haitian Revolution — but many of them ended up switching sides and fighting alongside the Haitians instead.

Some of their descendants reportedly still live in Haiti today, in a village called Cazale, where locals are known to have lighter skin and blue or green eyes because of that history.

I mentioned this to a few Haitian people I've met here in the DR, and none of them had heard about it before. It made me really curious how well-known this part of history actually is among Haitians themselves versus how it's remembered (or not) elsewhere.

Does anyone here know more about this? Is it a well-known story in Haiti, or is it something that's mostly forgotten too?

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u/BlankSpaces_World — 1 day ago