Do you guys suggest I (as someone who can read the NT with some vocabulary help/dictionary) Should read the gospel of St. Thomas (Hadavas commentary) Or some saints life? And if the latter, which one?
Does Ancient Greek's typology allow this construction with epi?
ἔχεις λόγον ἐπὶ τυγχάνειν μου;
Do you have a reason for meeting me?
The verb echo is probably not the most idiomatic for this but you get the idea.
Hello! I am a first year philosophy student and i was really looking forward learning ancient greek. Tiny problem is that the professor is out of the country for the first three classes so i haven't had the chance to properly work on my tone, accent, or overall pronunciation, and i was wondering what study methods i could apply to study on my own:)
Currently I am mostly learning the alphabet, grammar rules, and trying to read out loud some fragments the professor sent us. Any recommendations for study methods and vocalization are more than welcome. Thank you!
Note: I am very interested in the way Pindar wrote, but my course is focusing on Attic greek, so there's that
ἴνα διδάξω αὐτῷ περὶ τοῦ ὁρθοῦ ὁδοῦ
I used the aorist subjunctive because I want to emphatically imply that αὐτῷ will only be taught once, that's why I'm wondering if the aorist can be used this way; I have seen the aorist used for this sense but only for imperatives so I'm wondering if its also possible for cases like this too.
Aithiopika 1.21:
ἣ δὲ πολύν τινα χρόνον τὸ βλέμμα τῇ γῇ προσερείσασα, καὶ πυκνὰ τὴν κεφαλὴν ἐπισείουσα, λόγον τινὰ καὶ ἐννοίας ἀθροίζειν ἐῴκει·
The context is that she is being held captive by a pirate chieftain, who has asked her if she will marry him of her own free will. She is an upper-class virgin, in love with a different man, and is very brave but AFAICT is either shy as part of her personality or behaves shyly as part of the author's characterization of how a virtuous girl should behave in such a situation.
What does πυκνά mean here? Frequently? Wisely? Discreetly? The translation I looked at had "slowly," which didn't seem to match anything in the LSJ entry.
So, recently, a friend of mine suggested I get into Greek mythology. I’ve watched a bunch of videos and stuff, but I haven’t really found anything that explains it in a simple way while also putting everything together I know it’s a huge subject with a lot to it, but I really want to learn about it properly The YouTube videos I’ve watched so far just weren’t quite what I was looking for
So I started yet another replay, and there are two NPC ambient lines in Greek that have always driven me crazy.
These two lines which “sound” or are interpreted by my brain as:
“yo soy Petios!”
“heey, have you seen Morliss?”
After years an and years I can’t take it anymore, I need to know.
I did find this old post (https://www.reddit.com/r/AssassinsCreedOdyssey/s/Rh9zmJTVeM ) that was very helpful but I couldn’t find these two, Or perhaps couldn’t phonetically put them together.
DOES ANYONE KNOW?!
For most people in the ancient world, death did not come with the cremation or burial of the body. It came when your name was spoken for the last time. When your glory (κλέος) disappeared, so did you. Perhaps this is why deed (ἔργον)—one's deeds—became such a central value in Greek thought.
This raises an interesting question.
Ancient literature often portrays beauty as dangerous. Exceptional beauty attracts the attention of the gods, invites envy, and frequently leads to misfortune. Heroes are remembered for what they do, not for how they look.
For some time now, reddit has had a misfeature that non-transparently replaces a post with a machine translation into what it thinks is the user's native language. I got reminded of this recently when I made a post here that was in ancient Greek, and I started getting comments that didn't seem to make sense -- because the people writing the comments were seeing a machine translation into English. For example, people were criticizing the translation, which they attributed to me.
It's possible to turn off this misfeature for specific languages, but it seems like you can't turn it off globally. In the web browser interface, Go to Settings - Preferences - Language - Content Languages. You can turn it off for up to 10 languages.
Your experience will probably also depend on whether you're using the cell-phone interface or the web browser one. They also seem to fiddle around and change the behavior of this feature every 6 months or so.
It seems like a no-brainer that reddit should allow specific subreddits, such as this one, to turn off the feature throughout the subreddit. However, they don't really care as long as they're optimizing ad revenue. Just one more way in which tech billionaires are making the world worse in ways that nobody asked for.
Reading Pharr's Homeric Greek. I know in Classical Attic the epsilon+iota is NOT a diphthong, but is a diphthong in the archaic period specifically 7th century and prior. I know Homeric Greek is a literary dialect being composed of Eastern Ionic+ Aeolic, bulk forms being Ionic. Keeping in mind that some resources still give the epsilon+iota even in classical attic as a diphthong,and this book being pretty old i dont know whether this is intentional because homer lived in the 8th century and this would be the correct pronounciation or whether this was s mistake ?
I’m researching PGM XII.270–350, usually titled “A Little Ring for Success and Favor and Victory” in The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation edited by Hans Dieter Betz.
The ritual says to engrave Helios on a heliotrope/bloodstone, with an Ouroboros and a sacred scarab, and then says:
“On the reverse side of the stone you are to inscribe the name in hieroglyphics, as the prophets pronounce [it].”
However, in the English translation I have, the actual hieroglyphic name does not appear to be reproduced.
Later in the same ritual, the practitioner invokes the “Greatest god” using a long series of divine names beginning with IAO SABAOTH ADONAI, and still later the text says:
“Whenever you wish to command the god, give your command, saying the greatest name OUPHOR.”
It also calls OUPHOR “the holy, true OUPHOR” and says this was the god/name used by Urbicus.
My question is:
Do scholars know what specific divine name or hieroglyphic inscription was supposed to be engraved on the reverse of the stone in PGM XII.270–350?
In particular:
Is the missing name preserved in the original papyrus or in a critical Greek/Demotic edition?
Is the intended name believed to be OUPHOR, IAO, IAO SABAOTH, or something else?
Were actual Egyptian hieroglyphs present in the manuscript but omitted from the Betz English translation?
Is there a photograph, facsimile, diplomatic transcription, Preisendanz edition, or scholarly commentary that shows the original signs?
Do scholars identify who the “Greatest god” or “god” being commanded in this particular ritual is?
I’m interested in the historical/textual reconstruction, not instructions for performing the ritual. If anyone can point me to the manuscript, papyrus line numbers, scholarly edition, article, or commentary discussing this passage, I’d appreciate it.
Σωκράτους δὲ ἄξιόν μοι δοκεῖ εἶναι μεμνῆσθαι.
I searched on the web and I couldn't find that a genitive is an argument or feature of the verb so this genitive has inherently nothing to do with the verb.
Hey, I wrote a sapphic stanza (am I supposed to say 'a poem in sapphic stanza', or 'a sapphic stanza' ?) and would be eternally grateful if someone could check for errors, or give me feedback on it in general. The only issue I'm aware of at the moment is that using σῆμα intending for it to be translated as 'star' is pretty optimistic; I based it on σῆμα being often used for constellations, and the more standard meaning of it also technically working (the lighthouse of Pharos being a wayfinding landmark).
Here it is :
Ὦ ἄποπτε φῶς, ὅτε δὴ πλανῴμην
ἐν νόου κλύδωσι, τότ' εἰς ἐμ' αὐτὸν
δεικνύναι μόνος σὺ δύναιο νόστον, σῆμα Φάρου μοῦ.
And the translation :
O far-off light, when I lose myself in the tumultuous waters of my mind, only you, my Pharos star, can light the way back to myself.
Thank you !
Hi again!
This sub was very helpful and I kindly request your assistance one more time for my tattoo 🙏
So I'm after the original Greek of Justinian II line during the Black Sea storm on his return from exile in Cherson. You know the one where Myakes tells him to chill and pay deliverance to god. And then he's all like
"If I spare a single one of them, may God drown me here"
I've got the English and the citation but not the text itself. I'm looking for the actual Greek as printed in de Boor (Teubner, 1883), ideally with the polytonic accents and breathings intact, plus Myakes' preceding line if it's easy to include.
For what it's worth, I had Claude deep dive for me and came up with this:
"ἐὰν ἑνὸς ἐξ αὐτῶν φείσωμαι, ὁ Θεός με καταποντίσῃ ἐνταῦθα."
But I have no confidence in it and I'd rather have the real thing please. Again I apologize if I sidestepped any sub rules plus I really just don't know what I don't know about ancient Greek and the more specific stuff.
Thank you so much for your time
The papyrus fragment dates to 285-280 BCE. For any non-papyrology nerds out there, that’s HELLA HELLA EARLY for Greek papyri — I think our very earliest we have at all are from c.300.
This show that pretty much as soon as Greek became a common administrative / elite language in Egypt, the Odyssey was there too. Which makes sense! Homer was quintessential to the education curriculum of any Greek speaker.
Everywhere the algorithm steers me I run into discussions of Christopher Nolan's film version of Homer's Odyssey, but usually with an unfortunately small fraction of input from people who read Homeric Greek. I came to this sub expecting to find at least one or two lively discussions of the film, and I've found almost nothing.
That's why this post's title is a question, and it isn't posed rhetorically: if the members of this sub would rather not discuss Hollywood, I understand, your house your conventions, and I will look elsewhere.
If you DO want to discuss such things, I admit, I am interested in the celebrity beef between Nolan and Emily Wilson. I admire Nolan and Wilson so much, it feels to me as if Mom and Dad are fighting.