Bear with me here, if your body falls into a chasm and dies, you can use a scroll (or withers) to revive them. using a scroll targets the blue ball on the ground (which I assume symbolically means the soul or the traces left of it.

Now we know Withers is Jergal trying to keep balance, so he technically cannot offer us help, but he gives us hirelings and revives our companions. Is his way of keeping it fair leaving the tadpoles in? or is he unable to overcome the netherese magic imbued in it. Also wouldn’t Karlach’s infernal engine be removed from her if she gets revived? Is it metaphysically tied to her soul? (she feeds it soul coins yk? idk.)

Or am I just overthinking it? I do feel like a game with this depth of story shouldn’t have this many logical fallacies though

I'm currently playing an Origin Shadowheart run and trying very hard to roleplay based only on what she knows, not what I know as a player.

I've respecced her into a Death Cleric and I'm not playing her as a stereotypical evil necromancer.

My interpretation of her so far is:

• The artifact is my highest priority.
• Shar entrusted me with a mission.
• Most people are useful, dangerous, or irrelevant.
• Life itself is not sacred.
• My own survival matters because I need to complete the mission.
• Torture, murder, deception, etc. are acceptable if they help achieve my objectives.
• Trust must be earned.
• Companions are allies of convenience, not friends.

The more I learn about Shar, however, the more confused I become.

At first I thought Shar was about:

• discipline
• secrecy
• emotional control
• hierarchy
• self-sacrifice
• duty

Which honestly sounds pretty cool from a roleplay perspective. Dark Justiciars especially interest me because they seem like elite agents who place duty above personal desires.

But then I started thinking about Shar's philosophy more deeply.

Shar teaches that:

• love leads to loss
• hope leads to disappointment
• attachment leads to suffering
• everything is ultimately lost

If I follow that logic to its extreme conclusion:

• Why build a house? You'll lose it.
• Why have children? They'll die.
• Why love someone? You'll suffer.
• Why build a civilization? It won't last.
• Why seek power? You'll lose that too.

At that point Shar almost starts sounding less like a goddess of darkness and more like a goddess of cosmic nihilism.

And that's where I get stuck.

My question:

What is Shar's actual endgame?

Is her ideal world:

1. A disciplined, secretive, hierarchical society ruled by devoted followers?
2. A world where people simply stop attaching meaning to things?
3. Complete darkness, loss and oblivion?
4. Something else entirely?

And if Shar ultimately wants people to let go of attachments, isn't devotion to Shar itself an attachment?

Why do Dark Justiciars exist if the final philosophical destination is essentially "everything passes and nothing matters"?

Am I misunderstanding Shar completely, or is there a genuine contradiction between Shar's teachings and the actions of her followers?

I'd love to hear how other people roleplay a truly Shar-faithful Shadowheart. Especially those who chose to stay on the darker path rather than reject Shar.

I just learned that if Dark Urge is redeemed and resurrected by Withers, Dark Urge is eternally tied to Withers (Jergal) himself, as long as Withers endures, so will Dark Urge, which unless you’re romancing Lae’zel and plan to eventually stay in the Plane for eternity after Warring with Vlaakith, Dark Urge will probably outlive all their Romances, possibly acting as Jergal’s Chosen for centuries, almost like an Elminster type, which although sounds cool, just a really sad end for the eventuality of Durge outliving their partner, adds to the tragedy of their whole character.

Fuck, I wish we got Durge as a Companion.

Picture taken inside the Gith Creche, edited after the fact.

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Dark Urge character

What's something you've said to a character in the game out loud to yourself knowing the character can't hear you?

>!In Act 3, when you're going to the house of hope and the emperor tells you to not go there, I said out loud "I heavily advise you to shut the fuck up" because of how much I hate the prick!<

:3

So my friend and I recently started our first playthroughs. He’s really into optimizing EVERYTHING, having the best builds and not missing out on any good loot. He’s also been known to rely on cheats and other methods in different games to acquire buffs or things he missed.

We got Auntie Ethel’s hair in act one and chose Charisma for our several charisma casters and we eventually used it on Shadowheart.

I logged off last night and he said he spent an extra 3 hours “working on his build”. When I checked his buffs on his main character he had 2 instances for Auntie Ethel’s Boon. One for Wisdom and one for Constitution.

When I asked him about it he said “oh it’s probably just a bug when I selected those skills for ability improvement”. But he’s been known to lie to me in the past about things like this.

I was wondering if this is an actual bug that can happen or did he cheat by adding extras into the game?

Im having a really hard time deciding

Wtf Jaheira. Not that it wasn't hard enough defending Isobel when every time I cast sanctuary on her, instead of doing anything supportive, she straight up went and did her d4 melee attack on anything in reach...

No, Jaheira had to cast sleet of ice or smth stupid like that STRAIGHT UP ON MY PARTY DEFENDING ISOBEL. yk who the only people in the room with two feet on the ground were? MY PARTY

Guess who went prone every subsequent turn? My party. Good for Marcus, I guess.

Isobel gets abandonded, my party gets overrun by about twenty Harpers and Tieflings.

Jaheira survived. Since I was moderately pissed off, I tried to leave her behind. She becomes hostile and finishes my party off.

Thanks very much Jaheira. Next campaign I'll never enter the Inn.