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Image 1 — A Garifuna from Yucatan Particularly from Southern Chetumal 🇲🇽🇧🇿
Image 2 — A Garifuna from Yucatan Particularly from Southern Chetumal 🇲🇽🇧🇿
Image 3 — A Garifuna from Yucatan Particularly from Southern Chetumal 🇲🇽🇧🇿
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A Garifuna from Yucatan Particularly from Southern Chetumal 🇲🇽🇧🇿

Although Garinagu are not considered a primary location in Mexico—there is Garifuna located in Mexico despite not being recognized in the Mexican Census and there is proven influence and documentation of Garifuna & Afro Belizean (Kriol) migration and local musical impacts of Chetumal.

Many Garifuna and Kriol had migrated to Chetumal during Early 1900s to the 1940s, this was due to a rising very industry in Chicle and Rum which was understaffed which sought workers from British Honduras or British Yucatan (Now Belize).

Y-DNA: E1a1-M44

MtDNA: D1

This individual in particular has obviously experienced intermixing with Afro Yucataecan Populations, but this Mayan-South Caribbean-African mix is very common in Garifuna regions of Punta Gorda in Belize.

Background on the Garifuna: Free Africans who mixed with Indigenous Caribbean (Kalinago), their culture is primarily Indigenous American with a emphasis on Seafaring and Well-being: were described first as Black Caribs or Garifuna Indians who culture was Piracy combined with Warmongering.

u/GenoScope — 1 day ago
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Updated Sudanese Ancestry - 23andme, G25 Vahaduo, Illustrative DNA

  1. Maternal & Paternal Haplogroups E-M123 & L2a1
  2. Tribe: Kawahla Kamalab - more specifically Shanabla Al Gezira (not to be confused with Shanabla Kordofan)
  3. Located in: Nayel, Al-Kabur, Al-Musallamiyah, Arbagi, Fiteis, Abderahman, Algoz, Al Nedeyana, Madani, Wad Biliya, Al Marabi3a, Tanoub, Wad Hussein, Al Mahas, Al-Sa3dab etc.
  4. Common family names: Al-Nuwayri, Shamboul, Masaad.

A little background: My family is from the Kamalab branch of the Kawahla Tribe in central Sudan, mainly around Wad Madani, Nayel, Musallamiyah, and Arbagi. According to tribal genealogy, the Kawahla trace their lineage back to Kahil bin Amer and ultimately to Al-Zubayr ibn al-Awwam, one of the Prophet Muhammad’s companions and a member of Quraysh. The tribe migrated from Arabia into Egypt and later Sudan during the early Islamic period, where they mixed with local Nubian and Arab populations and became one of the major Arab confederations in Sudan. The Kamalab (“sons of Kamal”) emerged as a respected Kawahla sub-clan known for leadership, scholarship, and governance in Gezira and the White Nile regions. Oral histories also mention a massacre of the Kamalab by a Ja’aliyyin leader in the 1700s, after which the lineage was rebuilt through a surviving child named ʿUrwa. Later, Sheikh Shamboul, a Kamalab figure, established the Shanabla of Gezira (not to be confused with the Shanabla of Kordofan), whose descendants settled around Nayel and Wad Madani. During the Mahdist wars, Madani wad Shamboul fought with Hicks Pasha’s forces and died at the Battle of Shaykan in 1883. Under British rule, Nazir Masaad from the Kamalab became a prominent tribal leader in Musallamiyah. Today, many Kamalab and Shanabla families still maintain strong roots in Gezira, while also preserving a mixed Sudanese Arab and Nubian identity shaped by centuries of migration, intermarriage, and Sudanese history.

u/Staejin12 — 1 day ago
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Old African American Names That Originated From Africa

Ok so Ive been doing my family tree for a few years now and have been seeing a few other people talk about this, but I have some interesting stuff I found. A few years ago, I found that some of my distant grandparents had these odd names that were pretty unusual. They were all born in the early 1800’s with some of their names being “Quash”, “Cuffie/Cuffy”, and “Affy” . After doing research, I found that these names were anglicized forms of the names “Kwesi/Kwasi”, “Koffi/ Kofi”, and “Affi / Afia”, which are from the Akan people of Ghana. I knew, even as an African American, that my maternal grandfather had heavy Ghanaian on his mothers side but I was not aware of the extent and the fact that names changed like that. I just thought I should post this because it might help someone reading this understand how some people retained these names from their cultures.

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u/Ill_Competition3457 — 2 days ago
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I took a DNA test and uncovered a hidden side of my family

A while ago, I made a post about matching with a woman on Ancestry who showed up as my possible half aunt/grandaunt. My paternal side of the family has always been vague, complicated, and full of unanswered questions, so I honestly didn’t know what to expect.

Well… I finally reached out.

I ended up having a conversation with her, and I’ve also spoken with two of her children.

The woman I matched with is 67 and my dad is in his early 60s, which makes me believe she’s actually my dad’s half sister — meaning my half aunt. The emotional part is that she spent most of her life not fully knowing who her biological father was either.

So while I was trying to uncover missing pieces about my own family history, she was too.

Even from just one conversation, it was surreal hearing family stories from someone who was a complete stranger to me weeks ago and realizing we may share blood, similarities, and pieces of history nobody fully connected before.

I think what’s hit me the most is realizing how many secrets and untold stories can exist in families for generations. People can live entire lives with missing pieces of their identity, and sometimes a DNA test suddenly changes everything.

Part of me feels excited. Part of me feels emotional for the years lost. And part of me still feels like I’m trying to process how strangers can suddenly become family overnight.

I’m grateful she and her family were open to speaking with me because I know these stories don’t always end positively.

Has anyone else uncovered unexpected family connections through DNA testing?

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u/Lana-Legacy — 8 days ago
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Black and Balkan

As an African American from the Deep South, I've previously received small percentages (1–2%) of Balkan and Romani ancestry in my DNA results and dismissed them as noise. However, my mother's results recently came in, and she shows around (3%) Balkan, Romanian, and Romani ancestry as well. She also has over 100 Romani DNA matches, all of whom are related to one another.

Does anyone have insight into how this might have occurred, specifically, how my family could have acquired Balkan/Romani ancestry? I've attempted to trace it, but this has led me to sparse info.

u/CoolNebula1278 — 7 days ago

I’m primarily of West and some Central African descent when I take 23 and me and Ancestry, but I’m closer to some East African groups(Kenya/Mozambique) in Population than I am to groups like Igbo/Akan/Yoruba on Illusttrative dna. Why is that? This is the modern population list too, not ancient.

I’m Primarily Igbo/mende/Akan/Yoruba on 23 but they aren’t my closest populations on Illustrative.

u/Key_Reason5684 — 7 days ago

23 and me results

Oldest daughter results just came in a few mins ago. a little underwhelming but they did give her her native as opposed to ancestry only giving her a trace in the hack.but what’s weird is that it says I gave her 0.6 mesoamerican when I don’t even have that on my own report 🥴🥴when I get paid again I’ll upgrade to premuim to see her distant groups.my mom has the North Carolina western piedmont group but it’s distant for her so I reckon my daughter is getting hers from her dads side 🤔🤔I was also hoping for more closer matches then she got on ancestry but no such luck with that either.

u/BulkyFun9981 — 9 days ago
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An AA Diaspora project I've been working on based upon Ancestry's raw data.

Some of you expressed interest in this on another post. I hope to have the blog completed and live by the beginning of next week.

Besides mapping my own genetic similarities to various African ethnic groups, I'll be offering a guide for others to do the same. I'll include instructions on how to perform the most technical aspects using artificial intelligence as well as manually.

u/Puzzled-Background-5 — 10 days ago
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The racist origins, racialist connotations, and purity assumptions of the concept of “admixture” in human evolutionary genetics - Kostas Kampourakis , Erik L Peterson

I personally don't care for the word 'admixture' when discussing human genetics, because it has its roots in scientific racism and its erroneous notions regarding racial purity.

"We argue that this is a problematic notion that accrues from the racialist origins of the term admixture, which, as a result, is based on assumptions about purity. We suggest that scientists should be very cautious in their use of this term, especially in science education and communication. We also suggest that the term admixture should be better replaced by terms denoting similarity rather than difference..."

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u/Puzzled-Background-5 — 12 days ago

DC Native & Portugal/ Spain History Question

Hello everyone, I have a question for those from the DMV, especially natives of the Washington, DC area. I took my AncestryDNA test for the first time, and the results were what I expected, but I was shocked to see Spanish. I was shocked to even see that pop up in my results because I don't have a direct link to Cerole Heritage or a community sticker saying that I have lineage. When I saw Portugal for the updated results, it threw me off because I knew from the American colonial map that only the English/ Great Britain had full control over the land. So my question is: does anyone know any history of the Portuguese and/or Spaniards in the DC area beyond the first discovery of the United States? Or should I take another DNA test like 23andMe to find better community and ethnicity matches?

I will attach my results in this post. Thank y'all for the help.

u/PradaClout-3000 — 10 days ago

Possible Louisiana Creole ancestry on grandfather’s side and father’s side? Check description

As far as I know, my grandfather’s side of the family has deep roots in Arkansas (I believe in or around Hope especially). My cousins and I each have the Ark-La-Tex Creoles group. Now , originally i assumed i got the group from my grandma’s side since her side is of heavy Louisiana ancestry and we have confirmed Creole heritage on that side . However, after seeing that my cousins on my grandfather’s side also have this group, i wonder if it could be indicative of Creole heritage on his side too. In addition to this, my father also has the Ark-La-Texas group and the River Parishes group and his side has deep Mississippi and Alabama roots. Thoughts? Thanks.

u/W8ngman98 — 13 days ago

How accurate is the 1880s census for my third grade grandma Amanda (Mandy) parents' dad birth place in Africa?

Hi, I have a screenshot of my 1880 census and I just want to know how accurate or reliable it is. This is my third great-grandma on my dad's side, and I was looking at birth places of her parents and what stood out to me is that her dad was born in Africa which I thought was really cool. I just want to know how accurate the 1880 is compared to the 1870 and 1900. I have her in the 1900 census as well and it says her father's birthplace is Virginia. I asked someone and they said the 1880 census is more accurate. I’m not sure what you guys think? To be honest, I think this is a really cool find to see Africa on there.

u/Better-Heat-6012 — 14 days ago

Making progress on paternal side

Originally when I started my genealogy process it was to find my paternal family but I thought because I had very little information to go off of, it was best to just go on the maternal side to make progress.

After talking to my mom more I actually made a huge break in my paternal side search and successfully identified my paternal grandmother, paternal aunt and 1st cousin via father’s sister as well as my greats, 2nd greats and 3rd greats!

I had always known from my DNA matches on both 23andMe + Ancestry that I was going to have to look out for the surnames Barr, Flagler, Cooper. Turns out my paternal grandmother is a Wilson, and there are Witherspoons, Pressleys, Fulmores in the mix.

They seemed to have stayed in the Williamsburg area for a long time, which checks out since my mother was actually a foster child to my biological paternal grandmother. I know the story she told me and I know my paternal family doesn’t care for me nor really even know me but I took the big leap and messaged what is to be my biological father. I don’t expect an answer, seems like he’s not even active on his Facebook but that is TBD. I messaged his niece (his sisters daughter) a while ago and told her I discovered our connection, was real respectful about it. But, when I said that I was her uncle’s bio daughter the only response I got was “Oh”, so I don’t expect warmth or even an attempt at a relationship. That’s not even the main goal to be fair.

My mother said he had no intention to be in my life and clearly that was true. My mom was 14 when she met what would be her foster brother (my bio dad) and he was years older. He essentially groomed my mother and impregnated her at 18, thus where I came in at. According to her he gave her the ultimatum of either get rid of the baby and stay in Florence or keep the baby and he’d get her a ticket back to Charleston on a Greyhound, and I was born in Charleston lol. Dude had a whole girlfriend or fiancé the entire time my mom thought he was actually dating her. He had another daughter years later, so I have a biological younger half-sister through him.

I have yet to find my paternal grandfather but I wager he was a McFadden through his own father being that my biological dad and his sister both share that surname and usually children get their surname from their father.

Just a year ago I didn’t think I’d get anywhere and here I am, actively making breaks and compiling a whole family tree. So, progress has been made.

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u/Bubbly-Policy-1384 — 14 days ago