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My own theory on Lazar’s story, including his eduction

The biggest caveat in Lazar’s story, that everyone seems to pound on, is his eduction background. People say since his education can’t be verified, the buck stops there and the whole story falls apart. After looking at the entire story from a 30,000 foot view, I think there may be a plausible explanation for what happened, including his shaky education claims.

Back in the 1980s, it was a lot easier to lie on resumes, and I believe it was done much more frequently back then. Especially with all records being analogue.

We know Ed Teller was at Los Alamos on the day Bob said he was there, because it was in the same issue of the Los Alamos Monitor talking about Bob’s jet car. So, I don’t think Bob made up meeting Teller. Bob reached out to Teller a few years later with his resume, asking for a job lead. Teller tells Bob that EG&G will call him to set up an interview. Teller is probably pretty high up in the program, being in the Manhattan Project, father of the hydrogen bomb, and setting up national labs. His recommendation alone was probably enough to fast-track Lazar into the program.

Jumping forward, Bob claims that he was replacing a scientist who died after cutting into a reactor. If someone died and needed to be replaced, the program would probably be trying to expedite a replacement for something that important.

Bob says they came back later and said there was a problem with his security clearance.

Therefore (TLDR), I think it’s likely that:

  1. S-4 needed to quickly replace the scientist who died.
  2. Teller’s recommendation alone is enough to get Lazar in, given Teller’s likely high up in the program.
  3. Lazar begins working there provisionally while they check his background.
  4. They find his education doesn’t check out and stop calling him out.
  5. This is what leads to him being iced out, maybe along with his wife’s affair.

Bob has even walked back his education claims in recent interviews, saying things like he went to MIT under a government program, not a traditional master’s degree. And that he “did a lot of auditing at both places,” referring to MIT and Cal Tech.

Further, if you see Teller in an interview being asked about Lazar, his reaction is very strange. He doesn’t deny knowing Lazar, he said he’ll just sit in silence if asked about Lazar. I think this weighs in favor of Lazar actually meeting him, and Teller probably just got burned by Bob going public and his background not checking.

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u/PapaPalps066 — 2 days ago

S4 documentary: what was stolen from Bob Lazar's home?

Just watched new S4 / Bob Lazar documentary, released last week.

At one point, near the end, Bob was asked by his former boss (Dennis Mariani), to meet up with him at a Vegas casino.

When Bob got home, he said people had broken in and "took something" he owned. When asked what it was he didn't elaborate or even reply to the question at all.

Does anyone here know what they might have taken and why he chose to remain silent?

I'm guessing he might have 'borrowed' something from S4 (element 115?) and that they took it right back (whatever it was), but I'm just speculating and curious as heck.

Whatever it was, it must have been significant for him to leave the question unanswered.

Would welcome all your thoughts.

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u/Procession5 — 2 days ago
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Strange Bot Activity on the JRE Bob Lazar Episode (2019)

Hey Everyone,

Not sure if this is the right place to ask about this, but I was pretty weirded out by what I found earlier on youtube. I feel like there could be something strange going on and thought I'd run it by the community of my favourite internet sleuth.

I was watching the 2019 JRE episode featuring Bob Lazar (here) and that Jeremy guy as all the recent buzz around UAP/UFO's and disclosure got me interested again. I was scanning the comments as I usually do, mainly laughing at how hard people were ripping into the Jeremy guy, and I kept seeing the same comments, with slight variations, posted over and over again.

The comments were directly challenging Lazar's assertions, with the most commonly repeated one being an incredibly long post (that I call the "essay") setting out numerous reasons why he was not to be believed, how there's no record of him at Los Alamos, no coworkers or co-eds came forward etc etc. I have no problem with people being skeptical, but the content got increasingly weird from there.

Some of the accounts that posted the "essay" would go on to post additional comments talking about other individuals too. They would follow the pattern of saying something like

"Robert Coggeshall is doing a study on Fast Quick. Just you wait, it'll be here soon"

or

"Dr. Todd Grande is a mental health expert , he is doing a study on Robert Coggeshall soon."

Sometimes Coggeshall/Fast Quick would be interchanged, other times completely different names would be in their place. Many of the accounts however seem to have this obsession with the "Coggeshall" surname. I tried googling "Robert Coggeshall" as this was a very commonly posted name but nothing that links to the UFO/Lazar subject matter caught my eye.

In addition, the accounts would post a list of usernames "warning all viewers" that the people on the list were "suffering with mental health disorders"; then a string of names would follow. It's not clear to me yet whether these are the names of people in the comments who are stating their support/belief in Lazar's claims, but one of them is "Fast Quick". I seem to have found a comment from the original Fast Quick stating that they're greatful for Bob's contributions and are glad to hear him speak.

There must be in excess of 20/30 of these profiles (from what I can see so far), all posting subtle variations of the same comment over and over. Diving into the descriptions of the profiles themselves reveal that many of them were made in early 2025, though there are some amongst them that have been active since 2020. The oldest one I've found so far is from around that time. They are posting both very recently (within a couple of weeks to months) and as far back as 2020/1. The way youtube comments work is a bit weird, it doesn't give you a concrete time, but lots of the posts are registered as "a year ago" (roughly in step with the creation of the accounts).

Looking at the bot channel descriptions, they all make mention of various topics, from Bigfoot to UFO's. Some of them make reference to the Beatles, always in a derogatory or critical way, calling them "racist" or "talentless", as well as other bizzarre comments related to doctors, mental health studies, and also an emphasis on "the paranormal" not being real.

The comments are all there and visible, just go to the video, click through any of the replies to some of the top comments, and they'll be there.

After really looking at it, it's clear to me that there are also swathes of bots that have the same profile pictures as the ones slating lazar, but they're just saying other things. Like discussing the weather, or nonsensical material that isn't referencing anything in the video. Nobody seems to react to them.

So whats the deal here? Does anyone think its worth investigating? Obviously the first thought that springs into my head is the most obvious (and dramatic), and that could be:

  1. It's a coordinated campaign by some organised entity that wants to discredit and ridicule Bob Lazar.
  2. It's a very troubled individual trying to become the next iteration of the "Yayvideogames" style of obsessive hyperposting.
  3. It could just be my first real encounter with the dead internet theory (insert james franco "first time?" meme here).

Either way, I wanted to drop it here as I couldn't think where else to take it. I've not seen anything this sprawling before and nobody on the video itself seems to be discussing it. I really mean it, these comments are absolutely everywhere. I got a very strange/creepy feeling from seeing all the same uncanny profile pictures posting over and over again.

Just adding this here as I went back to check again before posting: Sometimes, the bots argue amongst themselves. Some of the profiles posting comments in support of Lazar have the same profile pictures as the ones posting negative comments. It seems a positive comment pops up, and is then swamped by negative bots. I'm pretty sure Fast Quick is one of the positive bots.

I'm happy to provide links or screenshots to anyone who's interested, and I hope this doesn't seem like a waste of time to post. Let me know your thoughts!

u/RATBLOODCOCKTAIL — 5 days ago

I made the s4 poster of "they're here"

Hello everybody i made the poster of the s4 facility, I took the idea from the documental and created this using AI and now uploading here if anybody wants to print and also have it on the wall.

u/inff_eliz — 6 days ago
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Bob Lazar's S4 account vs photography/satellite

I want to cover 3 main verifiable topics from Bob Lazar's account that are almost never mentioned (Jeremy Corbell won't touch it, Luigi won't touch it, Dolan refuses to ask him, etc) -- which to me are the lynchpins when it comes to the physical location of S4. These three things only exist in Bob's retelling, not in photography or satellite maps.

TLDR: The widely agreed upon S4 site cannot be the real location he worked at. It must be somewhere else.

From Bob Lazar's own 2019 autobiography, notice the bold text. Abstractly worded would be an understatement, but the early sketch makes it clear what was meant.

https://youtu.be/wnPlSc-XnUg?si=dcJyz_2kNBbfaUw4&t=4628

>...we headed south along a packed dirt road within minutes we were in the desert with the blacked out windows. I couldn't see much to the sides of me but it was likely what i was seeing in front of me through the frame of the front windows. A few rolling hills and a smattering of creosote bushes, grease wood and cactus. We traveled for nearly 40 minutes covering approximately 10 miles the bus headlights sending out a flickering semaphore as we rattled over the corrugated sections of the road. Eventually we slowed and came up to a rather large hill above the loose pile of dirt and stone. A spire of rocks with the characteristic desert varnish darkening their surface sat like a broken jaw and teeth above it as we moved left around the hill, it was as if someone had taken a giant shovel and squared the face of the hill at ninety degrees to the ground. To one side of that perpendicular rise stood a small entryway. Dennis led me inside the building...

https://i.redd.it/n44f19ma7c1h1.gif

To be clear, his book claims they took the southern route on the first visit to S4. Here's that road.

https://preview.redd.it/ap2gvsbc7c1h1.png?width=1997&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae7d42f5f60058f1f86b81c8174bbec6bc4f25f5

It's absolutely certain that no substantial jagged rocks/cliffs exist at the agreed upon S4 location. Not shown are the runner-up S4 sites scattered north and northwest of Papoose dry lake; neither of which have large jagged rocks by any stretch of the imagination:

https://preview.redd.it/w88s40je7c1h1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=d891e0af01a8d39f11ad6ec03ba15bfd2575b8a0

And in recent years, contradicting himself, Bob himself sketches a smooth continuous rise above the hangars. No cliffs or large rocks in sight. Also take note he includes no bushes or shrubbery on the actual doors; something that you see in abundance across the hillscape at the supposed S4 site:
https://unitednuclear.com/area-51-c-86/s4-base-sketch-hand-signed-by-bob-lazar-p-1386.html

  1. On the second verifiable topic, again from Bob Lazar's own 2019 autobiography, notice the bold text:

https://youtu.be/wnPlSc-XnUg?si=z2vgRGbITCPy3GqN&t=13147

>Once the vehicle came to a stop and we dismounted, Dennis said "take a good look. I can't guarantee you'll get another opportunity like this one. I walked into the wedge of light coming out of the hangar, and out onto the concrete apron. I wanted to get the long view of the craft. The familiar saucer shape of the craft, like an inverted soup bowl...

We know from photographs and satellite imagery above, there's absolutely no outdoor paved "concrete apron" at this site. No sign of sufficient ground disturbance from the removal or burying of concrete, either. We do have some faint lines shown in the S4 documentary, after contrast adjustments were made.

Definition of a hangar concrete apron: a heavy-duty paved surface located directly outside a hangar for parking, maneuvering, and servicing aircraft, acting as a transition zone to the taxiway.

  1. On the third verifiable topic, Bob makes it quite clear that the bus traveled right up TO the facility. Even in the earliest clear satellite imagery (circa 2006, below) there's no remnants of a fading road. The counter-argument might be that they actively planted shrubbery and joshua trees overtop of the road, and did the same atop the hangar doors after covering them with dirt while managing to leave no heavy equipment tracks behind.

https://preview.redd.it/1een2jhn7c1h1.png?width=1749&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b00238fce864ceafd54c858c36e649230664879

If you wonder what a 17-year abandoned dirt road looks like, we have a perfect example right nearby. Assuming they stopped using the Papoose-bound road in 1989 when Lazar went public, the 2002 (left side image) is how it looked 13 years later. And after an additional 17 years: how it looked in 2019. As you can see, 17 (or 30) years is NOT enough to erase all traces of an abandoned dirt road. From this, you might estimate it takes 50+ years.

https://preview.redd.it/wwba4qvq7c1h1.jpg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=371802efb9eeb4544c336be0c1dc8e33766c3fce

So again, how come there's no sign of the road just 17 years after Lazar said the road was there? Because he worked somewhere else entirely.

https://preview.redd.it/14o96p2s7c1h1.png?width=1749&format=png&auto=webp&s=b7445a00f4c0e11e639cc53a0077fc5c79459728

If the road ever existed, it might have looked something like this:

https://preview.redd.it/h9krg16t7c1h1.jpg?width=1829&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f429f04e84a01d6876d205231e8c55975b80f687

And after 17 years, here's what the road should have looked like in 2006. Don't mind some other oddities and textures AI decided to paint in. The point is, there was never a road here, and nobody wants to believe it more than me!

https://preview.redd.it/1s5z9oou7c1h1.png?width=1829&format=png&auto=webp&s=09e3dd51a6fe871969dd013f905647c4793ff44d

  1. As a bonus related topic, here's the clearest shot we have of the base of the "tongue"/penninsula on the Papoose dry lake bed, right near the agreed upon S4 site. I think it's been dug out and had a pretty evident berm added to collect water for wildlife during the rainy season; and you'll actually find plastic tanks known as wildlife guzzlers all across the region for this same purpose.

https://preview.redd.it/65syv0sz7c1h1.png?width=1229&format=png&auto=webp&s=361435a58525846cc82a2309b776524d9178b0d0

Something else in that same spot almost nobody knows about, because it only became apparent with recent satellite imagery, seems to be circular machinery left over from either a mining operation, or a cattle/horse pen, etc. Near the center of this image. Possibly on the right side of the "pond" is where a dwelling used to sit, well before the government bought up the land. Just a few hundred feet away from "S4". Would love to hear your comments!

https://preview.redd.it/u1ry54518c1h1.png?width=1531&format=png&auto=webp&s=581ee00675e55aa86cef3608c6b8b19d77943609

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u/Connect_Treacle7086 — 8 days ago

Bob mentioned being perplexed over the fact that the device managed to “stop time” for a candle flame and yet light escaped. Couldn’t the device just have slowed down the time for the candle to an extreme degree?

If the devices manipulated spacetime to the degree that time for the candle passed a thousand times slower relative to outside observers for instance, light from the candle would presumably still escape, right?

How long did they observe the candle flame for?

I suppose the question may revolve around the light becoming red shifted in such a circumstance(?) and therefore the flame ought looking different (more red) or even completely invisible if red shifted enough?

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u/wycreater1l11 — 8 days ago

The strange behaviour of John Lear and Bob Lazar whilst filming the test flight on March 22nd 1989.

I was recently watching this clip of Bob Lazar and friends on their first trip out to watch the supposed 'test flight' of the alien craft from S4 on Wednesday 29th March 1989.

I noticed something VERY odd about some things John Lear says, and about Bob's behavior and interaction with Lear throughout.

First of all Lear notes that he can see truck lights in the distance that it seems are stationary, suggesting that others are out there to observe the 'show' too. He also addresses the camera as if he's talking to an audience, saying 'you folks' and 'later in the show...'

It's obvious that he thinks they're making some kind of documentary or at least that this video will be shown to an audience.

Bob's behavior (off camera) is really strange too, considering he is risking a lengthy jail sentence and/or violent retribution for breaking top level military protocol by just being there with his friends and filming. He seems to goad Lear and even makes him say who else is there with him. Much laughter occurs when Gene Huff jokes that Bob is now a 'dead man' when Lear says his name.

I can't be the only person to wonder why Bob is taking it all so lightly with basically his life at stake, and why Lear seems to think he's part of a documentary. And why are other people out there in their trucks if this is, as Bob claims, a top secret test flight?

What do you think?

The footage starts around 1 minute and twelve seconds into this clip...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufPIHJ7To9g

u/Greenvenus2025 — 8 days ago

Some questions that were NEVER answered

- What was the MATERIAL that the Core plates were made of?

NOTE: he said that the COLOR was reddish-brown copper, but never said anything about the material, and no, it was not element 115

- Bob never specified what GASEOUS ELEMENT the antimatter from element 115 was collided with in the reactor.

explanation of how the reactor works: https://youtu.be/DptZBVJ8QfE

- Bob never told us what was INSIDE the AMPLIFIERS, and how do they work, he only told us that they amplify the wave

- Bob never mentioned any frisking or security checks before entering S4 — especially considering he said he even managed to bring in a Burger King camera around 01:55:19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZyKcJQZrDA

- Bob mentions “2 seats” once, later correcting to 3 seats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvNWQhc5oSo

00:23:26 — “How many chairs did you see? Two. Two.

00:23:35 — “There were three seats. They sat around the reactor…”

- Different versions of food/eating at S4 / Area 51

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvNWQhc5oSo

  • 00:26:38 — Says he only ate at Area 51:
    • “The only place I ever ate was at Area 51.”
  • 00:26:45 — Says he never saw a cafeteria at S4:
    • “So if there was a cafeteria there I never got to eat in it.”
  • 00:27:02 — Says he ate before going there:
    • “Usually I did… Well because I’d eat before I went out there.”
  • 00:27:14 — Mentions a snack shop/cafeteria before arriving:
    • “When you got to 51 and waited for the bus there was a little like snack shop cafeteria thing where you could get something…”
  • 00:27:20 — Says there was no place to eat down there:
    • “but there was no place to eat down there.”
  • 00:27:24 — Mentions the lunch room:
    • “We’d go to the lunch room.”
  • 00:27:30 — Says he never went past the lunch room:
    • “Bob never went past the lunch room.” / “I’ve never been past the lunch room door.”

In this interview — YouTube video — at 2:23:14, Bob confirms there was a “Hayes” working at Groom Lake/S4. He never mentions Hayes again afterward, but years later suddenly introduces a new supposed S4 worker named “Chuck Payne.” Why did Hayes completely disappear from the story?

u/SharpKiwi4708 — 13 days ago

S4: The Bob Lazar Story director blocked me after I asked him these questions

The questions are already posted on this sub.: https://www.reddit.com/r/BobLazarNew/comments/1t9ysn2/some_questions_that_were_never_answered/

I contacted Luigi Venditelli, who is the director of S4: The Bob Lazar Story and a close friend of Bob, to shed some light on these questions,

He's responded to me before, so I figured he might engage.
Instead he replied with "All those questions and more will be answered in due time,"

then silently blocked me 14 hours later.

u/SharpKiwi4708 — 11 days ago