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The Jimny price makes no sense

I get that manufacturers will charge what people are willing to pay but the price of the Jimny just doesn't make sense for what's on offer. For about 100k LESS you can get a Suzuki Across which is bigger, has a hybrid engine and just made of more stuff with tons of more features. Same engine (but with hybrid) and I'm comparing that even thought there are other cars from other brands that are even cheaper. Is the 4x4 chassis really that much more expensive? How has no other competitor come forward with a small 4x4 if things are so popular and can go off the showroom like hotcakes? I look at even the old small RAV4's still trucking about and wish Toyota would do that again.

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u/Big-Revolution3842 — 1 day ago

Needing a car spending too much on transport to work.

I edited the post because many people found it a scam because 3 months ago they saw me looking for a job in other groups so I don't want to be make people descriminating me.

Here is the post.

Hi gus I'm a 23 years old living in south Africa , I have all papers but I'm not a permanent resident yet (only after 2 years) despite earning a very good salary, started 2 and a half months (30k)and be Permanent employed, I don't qualify for car financing.

Please recommend a good dealer for a simple car with installments of maximum of 5k pm including insurance and tracker and with at least 2 years to own the car.

It can be a rent to own pre-owned car.

The reason I'm doing it I mentioned already I'm a foreign national whoever thinks it's a scam please don't comment.

Please also recommend a good car I can get and less expensive.

Thanks...

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Advice for slow depreciation daily driver

I’m on the lookout for a new daily driver car.

Currently driving a 2016 BMW X1. Love the car to bits, but the mileage is climbing and I am considering selling it before it completely devalues.
I’m also looking to buy a property in Cape Town (we all know how that situation is going) so I’m not really looking to upgrade and spend big money.

I bought my X1 second hand for R360k. Based on what I’ve seen, the value now sits around maybe 200-250k, mine’s in great condition so maybe it can be sold on the higher side of that range.

I’m looking to replace it with a relatively recent model daily driver of around 200-300k that can preferably haul more than a standard hatchback, and have at a decent ground clearance. Preferably depreciates less than a lux German vehicle does. This logical requirement list however does conflict with my emotions as I do enjoy a dynamic and fun drive. Part of me just wants to buy an older 2000s car but those are much older and heavy on petrol and less reliable.

Any advice on which makes and models I can consider?

Added info: I do have a small 2000s cabriolet as a second car, so I guess I do have a “fun” car and probably don’t need a fun daily driver.

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u/Longjumping_Desk_338 — 2 days ago

Jetour X70 Plus Review (facelift)

I just spent a week in the facelifted Jetour X70 Plus, and honestly, this is one of my favourite Chinese cars I've driven, if we're not counting the hybrids.

Jetour came into the SA market with the X70 Plus and the Dashing, which are fine cars, I guess, but me, I've always been one to prefer cars that are enjoyable to drive. Those had all the value and tech while lacking decent throttle response, making that driving experience a bit irritating, especially when trying to overtake.

This facelift has a new front grille and new wheel design, and it's now positioned as the luxury SUV from Jetour, which I found weird that it wasn't already. They used to market the X70 as the sportier one of the two, with sporty-looking rims, red accents and quad exhausts. The old quad exhausts were actually just cosmetic, but this new one still has four exhaust outlets, with two of them now being functional.

I actually really like this car. I think it looks elegant and expensive, especially in black with the chrome accents. The tail lights kinda remind me of the Audi Q8. The interior is lovely too. It reminds me of Mercedes' design, but hey, it works.

Jetour actually gave the power a bit of an upgrade, from 115 kW (154 hp) and 230 Nm to 125 kW (168 hp) and 270 Nm, and it's noticeable. It also now has a 7-speed DCT instead of the old 6-speed. Whenever I get these Chinese cars, I immediately put them in Sport because that calibration is better in that mode, plus I found it to even be easier on fuel in Sport mode. The car is pretty responsive and, dare I say, fun.

You get all you need. Surprisingly, you even get heated and cooled seats. I drove the Prime version, which costs R494,900, but there's a Prestige version which is R444,900. What impresses me the most is that the facelift is just R10,000 more than the old version. R10,000 for heated and ventilated seats, more power and better drive? The car was always easy to recommend to many, but now it's easy to recommend to most.

I really liked this car, one of my favourite Chinese cars. Fuel consumption was around 8.5-9 L/100 km, but I think it's worth noting that this car was brand spanking new, only having done 600 km.

u/torquetechstuff — 2 days ago

Renault Duster 1.3T

Has anyone tested the new generation Renault Duster 1.3T Intens/Zen? If so, how did you find it.
Would you take it over the Ford territory or other SUVs in the similar category?

Thanks

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u/Clean-Train9585 — 1 day ago

Needing a car spending too much on transport to work.

Hi guys I'm a 23 years old living in south Africa and married to a South African citizen, I have all papers but I'm not a permanent resident yet (only after 2 years) despite earning a very good salary(30k)and be Permanent employed, I don't qualify for a loan at the bank or car financing, I need someone that works on a dealership to help me.

I can get a 2nd hand car maximum 100k and pay 10k first month and then 7k monthly installments until I pay off the car.

It can be our agreement you can get me a 50k car and sell me for 80k and I'll pay you 7k monthly as long as we sign all papers even at the police notary or any other place and you can put a tracker. I work in a very reliable company. Maybe you're wondering why don't you save and just buy.

Even though I earn well I also pay my rent and small things but I have no loans at all.

It's first time I never owned a car.

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u/Previous_Cucumber462 — 2 days ago

Code 3 vehicles (municipal)

So I'm currently shopping for a bakkie and have come across two ads now claiming that the vehicles are Code 3 because they were former municipality fleet vehicles, and that they were not accident damaged. Is this definitely bullshit? My understanding is that Code 3 vehicles are ones that have been written off by insurance companies due to damage, flood, fire, theft recovery, then rebuilt and re-registered as built up. Thanks for any insight you may have.

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u/subtidal_ — 3 days ago

Looking for a seven seater below 250k

Hi guys,

I’m looking for a seven seater, something that can have four car seats for kids and I think that would be a practical car.
I’ve stated the budget but don’t know if I should get something like a Renault Triber or like a Kia Sorento.
I don’t like the uber type cars, at first I was looking at these because it seems I can get a very good quality Triber/ Avanza for this budget, but I’m really not a fan.
I am worried with the Kia Sorento it won’t be as nice/ high mileage or things wrong. I have looked at webuycars and this seems to be the case.
Fortuner seems to be a risk.
I would love the latest Kia carnival but obviously that’s way out of budget.

Which family car would you recommend that could accommodate these kids?

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u/icecreamcake98 — 3 days ago

Haval Jolion Review

One of the most popular Chinese vehicles in SA today, the Haval Jolion. I had the Pro Ltd Edition, which is just different in cosmetics. It only differs in terms of the green calipers and a green strip around the lower body.

The look, body and shape of this car is extreme, I would say. If you were to see it, you'd think this is a 300-400 hp car with pops and bangs, but no. It's a 105 kW (140 hp) and 210 Nm 7-speed DCT. So while it's not as fast as it looks, it's still a good car to drive.

With these Chinese cars, you get the best out of them in Sport mode, not only in terms of responsiveness but even with the fuel consumption, so I kept it in Sport mode for all but one trip. In fact, on the same trip, one in Eco and one in Sport, I got better consumption in Sport, with Sport mode using 9 km less of range on a 24 km trip of mostly city driving. Fuel consumption, they claim 8.1 L/100 km, but I hovered around 9.9 at best. And this is where your Japanese and German cars still excel over the Chinese. The Suzuki Across, which compares with this car, got me 4.4 L/100 km at one time!

Interior-wise, it's actually quite simple. No big TV screen, but a sizeable infotainment screen. I will say, though, that I hate that I can only change the drive modes (Eco, Normal and Sport) through the screen rather than having a simple toggle or button nearby. The faux-leather seats are comfortable, you get a panoramic sunroof and a volume-dial-style gear selector.

Rear space is much more spacious than the Suzuki Across because here you don't get that transmission tunnel. I think it's a good-looking car. I really like the rear taillight, which looks sleek. The only thing I have against the design is the wheel size and how they fit in the arches. It looks straight botched, and that's the first thing I'd change were I to buy this car.

The car comes in at R431,450, and I kinda see why it's popular. Guys, I kid you not, the other day I saw more than 20 delivery trucks all filled with these Havals. There were 100s of them.

I'd go for the Suzuki, though.

u/torquetechstuff — 5 days ago

Looking for a used car below R200k

Hey guys, I'm 24 and hunting for a used car, budget's about R200k.

No older than 5 years would be ideal. Mileage matters, but I'm not too fussy about it as long as it's in the right ballpark for the car's age and it's got full service history and well looked after.

Basically I want one of these:

- Something fun to drive

- Something reliable that won't give me headaches

- Both, if such a car exists

I've been eyeing a Ford Fiesta, but the wet timing belt threads on the forums have me a bit spooked. Not sure how real a problem that actually is if the car's been serviced properly.

The other option is a Hyundai Grand i10... feels like the safe, reliable pick, but it's not exactly thrilling.

Any recommendations below R200k? And if anyone's owned a Fiesta or a Grand i10, I'd love to hear how it actually held up.

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u/theofficxl — 4 days ago

Best dash cam for Swift

I drive a Suzuki Swift GLX and I’m looking for a good front + rear dash cam.

I’d ideally like:
Good day/night footage
Parking mode
Something discreet/neat

Happy to spend more for something genuinely good as I’d rather buy once than twice!

Would love to hear what you’re running, how long you’ve had it and whether you’ve had any issues.

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u/Even_Deal37 — 3 days ago

Cars that can hold 3 baby seats?

We’re about to have 3 kids that are all babies and toddlers that need to be in baby car chairs.

I’d love to speak to people who have had this predicament before and what car they went with.

I know the obvious answer is a mini van or something like a Kia Carnival. But wondering if there are any other really good options.

My heart says Ford Everest. Not as big but could still accommodate the 3 kids until they’re old enough. Then it’ll be more than big enough.

Our budget is R500k or under.

Thanks in advance guys!

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u/rugdrum — 4 days ago

How do you guys clean your engine bays?

Hey guys hope you are well

I would like to clean my engine bay (polo vivo)

it's quite dirty now but I'm scared of frying the ecu and water going into engine

What clean products would you recommend and how to protect important compents inside the engine bay?

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u/Grand_Evidence_5283 — 5 days ago

Mahindra Unveils Their new Pikup, To be called the Lifestyler

Mahindra unveils the production version of pikup with Mzansi market in mind. It does so while trying to push for top 5 spot in the market. Rivals include Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux

u/Apprehensive-Mix-45 — 6 days ago
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Slow car fast is all the fun you need

Had a ball at the last iLamuna 9 Hours of Red Star in a little Datsun 1200. No less fun than any other car/race car I’ve pedalled on track!

u/mag_P1e — 8 days ago
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Excited to join the club

Hi guys, this is my baby, got her today!! It's definitely an upgrade from my previous car. Love it so far, took it for an evening drive when I got home and can't wait to commute with it regularly. They serviced it at the dealer. 2015 2.0, with 111000km (68000 miles) on. Gearchanges are smooth. My first Mazda, but I have a feeling it's not the last one :)

Thinking of a nickname with a nod to Japan, something like Mr Myagi :)

u/RespondPlayful2902 — 8 days ago
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Help!

Does anyone know of any good cheap reliable vehicles. I start school in a week and need a reliable vehicle to go back and forth with. I only have 3k. I’ve been having the worst luck with going to see vehicles. They’ve been doozies. I never knew they made brown murky engine coolant lol. I wish I could just throw in the towel but that for quitters. I’m running out for time.

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u/MasterPiece1ofAkind — 6 days ago

Suzuki Across Review

I drove the Suzuki Across GL Auto for a week and here are my thoughts:

Firstly, the looks. I really like the way it looks in the front, especially with the white finish I had it in and the chrome bar on the front. The back looks a bit weird to me. It almost looks like an Alfa Romeo Junior in white, except with Temu body parts. Other than that, it's fine. It gets LED headlights, LED DRLs and even LED fog lights.

Inside is where it really shines. Before I even talk about the interior, the manual Across is R349,900, this automatic mid-spec is R372,900, and the top-of-the-range GLX is R464,900. The GL is the one to go for. You get everything you need, from parking sensors, a reverse camera and a full spare tyre, not a biscuit, and the niceties like cruise control, your wireless charger, wireless CarPlay and Android Auto.

The interior is nice, the seats don't feel cheap, and it's a sizeable crossover SUV. I do think it's a bit too close to the Grand Vitara, so Grand Vitara owners wouldn't see much of an upgrade.

In terms of power, I had the GL Auto, which has 76 kW (101 hp) and 137 Nm with a mild-hybrid battery. The battery helps in stop-start traffic and with the consumption. The powertrain is a bit weak for my liking, but then again, it's a Suzuki. It's an A-to-B car. I found overtaking needed a bit of calculation and timing because the lag is a bit much when you step on the throttle.

But who is buying a Suzuki for the power? You buy it for the consumption numbers. I averaged around 6.2 L/100 km for the week, mostly in the city. You can get numbers as low as 4.4 L/100 km on the highway, and the range adjusts with your driving. At one point, the car added 60 km to the range after driving around in traffic, which is impressive.

I see why Suzuki is a big name in SA and are doing well. For this price, you get a really great car. I know many aren't keen on the techy interiors we get now, so this will be right up your alley. It'll get you from point A to point B efficiently, with a great-quality infotainment screen that isn't reminiscent of a 55-inch flat screen, all the tech you need really, and a quality interior.

This car competes with the Haval Jolion, among others, which I then drove this week (more thoughts on that later), but the Suzuki is the better deal by far. Other cars to look out for in this segment would be the Toyota Urban Cruiser and Suzuki's own Grand Vitara, and from the Chinese, the Lepas L4 and Chery Tiggo Cross.

I say the Across comes out on top.

u/torquetechstuff — 8 days ago