r/CircumcisionJustice

"the operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anaesthetic [to] have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment, as it may well be in some cases." (Plain Facts for Old and Young". Book by John Harvey Kellogg, 1877)

-John Harvey Kellogg (MD) degree from Bellevue Hospital Medical College in New York City in 1875

Pain in babies

Doctors used to believe babies could not feel pain. They thought infant brains were too immature. Because of this, doctors performed major surgeries on babies without pain medicine. Modern science completely proves this notion wrong.

Babies have fully developed nerves and brain networks for pain from birth. In fact, experts agree babies feel pain just like adults do—and sometimes even more intensely.

I support intactivism, but I think we should think carefully about how we present our message.

Lately I've seen a lot of posts that come across as angry or confrontational. I understand the frustration—many of us feel we were denied a choice about our own bodies. But if our movement becomes known for outrage instead of education, people will stop listening.

I believe education should come before legislation.

Let's explain what the foreskin is, what functions it serves, and why many men feel they lost sensitivity, the gliding mechanism, and other aspects of sexual function after circumcision. If people understand what is being removed, they're much more likely to question the practice themselves.

I also think one of our strongest arguments is bodily autonomy. Instead of telling others what they must do, we can simply say that every child deserves the opportunity to make this permanent decision for themselves when they're old enough to give informed consent.

If we want intactivism to be taken seriously, we should be known for facts, respect, and education—not for sounding extremist. Winning hearts and minds will ultimately achieve far more than anger ever will.

No seriously. It feels like actually seeing the wizard behind the curtain.

I saw the recent news Colombia banned FGM.

And I cannot help once again going against the grain and saying this is clearly a huge step backward for circumcision justice, not a step forward.

The average "Intactivist" I feel would be very supportive on the new discriminatory law, citing that "more protections against genital cutting are always good". I couldn't disagree more.

The new Colombian law excludes by identity group, only protecting one gender. To me, this is an enormous step backward, not forward. We are talking about the adults electing to intrude into the genitals of children. There are no half measure solutions, especially identity based oppressive one. Colombia has singled out an underserved identity population and expressly signed a law protecting only the already overserved population. There are plenty of anti-FGM laws around the world already, and zero anti-circ.

Put it like this, let's say during colonial USA, a law was passed that prevented only white people from being owned as slaves. Should we champion that? Of course not. This isn't the kind of thing where we all sit around and sing Kumbaya and make half-measure solutions one identity group at time. Should the slaves sing Kumbaya with their masters after only white people are banned from being slaves since it's "one step closer to banning slavery"? Of course not, how absurd.

Banning cutting for only one gender re-enforces the problematic views that have enabled the cutting the continue for the underserved gender in the first place. It is a huge step backward, not a step forward. Just like banning slavery only for white people is further from any sort of justice than passing no law at all, banning cutting for only one gender is further from any sort of justice.

Overall, and I say it all the time, I'm getting really sick of expecting below the bare minimum. I refuse to take the breadcrumbs that are actually just more oppression, like Colombia banning cutting for only one gender, and celebrate it like it's some how favorable to me. It's not. It's just another daily heaping of oppression.

My recent post https://www.reddit.com/r/CircumcisionJustice/comments/1ugcx6k/every_antifgm_law_is_a_step_backward_not_forward/

was brigaded here https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1ugwh5k/removed_by_moderator/

You can read the posts on that sub to get a sense of the kinds of people and the kinds of things they were saying here on the Circ Justice sub. Needless to say their comments on this sub are all removed and they are all banned.

Notice exactly what's happening here. First, our enemies squirm incredibly and make it a gender war issue where there wasn't one. I don't mention "men" or "women" once in my original post. All I do is call out that anti-FGM laws only protect one gender, and that gender is the one that is already over protected. There are many anti-FGM laws and no anti-circ laws. Yet our cutter enemies somehow take that to mean I'm somehow anti-feminist and and an incel (?). I didn't mention feminism at all. I said anti-FGM flaws are gender based and exclude based on identity group.

I don't care to belabor the point any more, there are much more interesting things going on here. One, feminists at least the ones in that post WANT to make it a gendered issue. They took a post that wasn't really about the gender war at all, and made it about how men blame women for stuff. Well I wasn't before, but now I am. All the women that brigaded are minimizing the harms of circ and saying how you can't compare it to FGM. That is the oppression. Them minimizing and marginazing me and my systemic oppression IS the harm. How's about we get some self awareness and accountability, by minimizing the harms of circ YOU are and agent of the oppressive cutting culture, full stop. Check your privelage and understand your fragility.

It's also cool to see the aspects of power at play here with having out own space. Since this sub is a space for the victims, we set the rules. We can ban them all and remove their posts in a heartbeat. And I was able to report and get the original post removed from IncelTears for brigading, which is against platform TOS. For the first time, maybe ever, circ victims have their own space to demand justice, and are actually in a position of power, if even on just an online forum, to achieve some level of it.

It has everything to do with control and oppression.
Wrapped up into a big propaganda bag about it being "cleaner" and more "aesthetically pleasing"

yet everyone wants to blame it on $ greedy doctors. If this sentiment has any truth whatsoever to it, then I say that,

DOCTORS PUSH NEONATAL CIRCUMCISION ONTO PARENTS TO KEEP FROM BEING FIRED BY THE HOSPITALS' ADMINISTRATORS WHO ACCEPT BLOOD MONEY FROM THE LIKES OF THE ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION AND OTHER NONPROFIT FOUNDATIONS WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF PROCURING THE RITUAL SACRIFICES!

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Remember the folks that said "FGM is far worse". See my case is special, because what has happened to me is actually comparable to infibulation (the worst type of FGM that has been sensationalized to uphold the lies about circumcision). They simply don't care if circumcision can be just as bad or even worse than FGM, their narrative is about hurting boys sexually because they get enjoyment out of it. The term "incel" is used specifically to hurt men that they feel lack sexual satisfaction. Sexual frustration ISN'T CAUSED BY LACK OF FEMALE VALIDATION, it is caused by genital mutilation of male children. That is why "incel" is exclusively a term used to describe American (united states) men, because the practice is dominant is this country.

People who downplay MGM/Circumcision are evil child-rape supporters

By J. Steven Svoboda, Gregory J. Boyle, and Christopher P. Price

Introduction

While rare in Scandinavia and Europe, male circumcision is still common in North

America despite some reductions in frequency over recent decades. The United States rate

has declined from 90 to 60 per cent in recent years and has fallen by 15 percent in five

years.1 Canadian circumcision rates differ dramatically from province to province but the

national average is around 25%. It is revealing that the provincial rates have plummeted as

each province discontinued coverage under the National Health Service.2 Currently, only

Manitoba still pays for circumcisions.

Circumcision does not constitute genuine medical treatment. It violates criminal law, the

Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and also human rights. The health implications

are graver than is generally realised, despite clear medical evidence of adverse effects from

the pain, significant complications, psychological harm and inevitable prejudice to genital

function. There are no clearly demonstrable medical benefits. The law, the medical

profession, and society in general seems to have turned two blind eyes to this serious form

of violence against males.

Is infant circumcision advantageous?

A variety of claims as to lack of pain, minimal risk, absence of harm, and so-called

benefits from routine circumcision are frequently made. However, the burden of proof of

substantiating these claims lies on those who would pick up a knife to amputate normal,

healthy and functional anatomy. The claims made by circumcision advocates are

controverted by the facts.

Rationalisations for male genital cutting include claims about hygiene, prevention of

genital cancers, urinary tract infections (UTI’s), and of AIDS. However, overwhelming

evidence exists to the contrary. The American Cancer Society’s official website flatly

states:

“The consensus among studies... is that circumcision is not of value in preventing cancer

of the penis. It is important that the issue of circumcision not distract the public’s

attention from avoiding known penile cancer risk factors—having unprotected sexual

relations with multiple partners (increasing the likelihood of human papilloma virus

Care Investment Analysts for the decline between 1993 and 1998 in circumcisions from 1.3 million to 1.1 million despite the number of

male births remaining relatively constant).

(documenting that circumcision rate plunged from 40% to 0.4% immediately following the deinsurance of routine circumcision in the

province on August 1, 1996); Correspondence Dated November 15, 1999 from Jamie Muir, Minister of Health, Nova Scotia, to John

Antonopoulos (documenting that provincial circumcision rate dropped from 11.1% to 2.5%, after coverage by the provincial Medical

Services Insurance plan was discontinued). Even more dramatically, British Columbia’s rate reportedly dropped from around 50% to

near zero, essentially overnight, following the cessation of coverage.

infection) and cigarette smoking.”3

Furthermore, contrary to the claims of circumcision advocates, circumcision does not

protect against sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS.4 Those studies which claim to

prove the contrary are fatally marred by a failure to properly account for possible

confounding factors, such as behavioural and demographic differences between

circumcising and non-circumcising tribes in Africa. Moreover, the suspect nature of a

possible positive association between HIV and circumcision should be clear from the fact

that the United States has both the highest rate of routine circumcision and AIDS in the

developed world.5 Moreover, UTI’s occur in only 1 to 2 per cent of boys, and are

conservatively treated with antibiotics. Circumcised men without the protection of a

foreskin are at greater risk of many sexually transmitted diseases.6 As medical ethicist

Margaret Somerville pointed out:

“Moreover, neonatal circumcision is done without consent of the subject, removes

healthy tissue with unique anatomical structure and function, and leads to

differences in adult sexual behaviour… We need, therefore, to address the issue

directly and end the persistent efforts to find a medical rationale for

circumcision by removing the cloak of medicine from this procedure.”7

Consequently, no national or international medical association in the modern

industrialised world (including the Canadian Paediatric Society [CPS], the American

Academy of Pediatrics [AAP], the Australian Medical Association, the Australian College

of Paediatrics, the Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons, or the British Medical

Association) endorses routine infant circumcision.8 In 1996, the CPS stated, “Circumcision

of newborns should not be routinely performed.”9 The College of Physicians & Surgeons

of Manitoba has also recommended against newborn circumcision, noting that "[s]pecific

medical indications for the performance of circumcision in the neonate are rare.”10

In March 1999 the AAP concluded that “the data are not sufficient to recommend routine

neonatal circumcision.”11

It is notable that for one-and-a-half centuries, circumcision has been a procedure in

search of a rationale.

in the 1850’s assured Americans that amputating half the skin from a boy’s penis would

cure masturbation, which in turn supposedly caused paralysis, hip trouble, sloth, idiocy,

moral laxity, spinal curvature, lameness, clumsiness, hysteria, malnutrition, and epilepsy.

At the turn of the last century the procedure was still the cure of choice for not only

masturbation but also premature ejaculation, hernia, nervous exhaustion, and diarrhea! As

recently as the 1950’s prestigious American medical journals were publishing articles

recommending not only circumcision but also female genital cutting as cures for a wide

range of maladies.

Disadvantages of circumcision

During circumcision, the baby’s sensitive foreskin is crushed audibly, and the raw flesh

is cut with scissors. In all neonatal circumcisions, forceps or other probes are inserted into

the delicate foreskin, scraping, tearing apart and destroying the normal erogenous tissues of

the child’s sex organ. This causes considerable pain (in addition to being truly horrific to

witness) and leaves the raw glans open to infections, with any resultant scar tissue on the

glans further compromising sexual sensitivity. Circumcision removes 50 per cent of penile

skin and thousands of specialised nerve endings, fundamental to normal sexual response.12

The externalised glans and inner foreskin remnant become dried and skin-hardened

(keratinised), further desensitising the penis, with progressive lifelong loss of sensation.13

Reduced sexual function and pleasure has been acknowledged for centuries. Indeed,

Maimonides wrote in the 12th century:

“The bodily injury caused to that organ is exactly that which is desired … there is no

doubt that circumcision weakens the power of sexual excitement.”14

Circumcision makes the achievement of orgasm more difficult, decreases its intensity,

and impedes sexual satisfaction among circumcised men and their female partners, thereby

reducing or constraining both male and female sexuality.15 Complications, including an

estimated 229 deaths each year in the United States alone,16 range up to 55 per cent

depending on the definition applied, and willingness to report complications fully and

accurately (for example, meatal stenosis, urethral fistula, penile necrosis, accidental

amputation of part or all of the glans, skin tags).17 Since genital integrity is always

destroyed, and sexual function is always compromised, the true complication rate of

circumcision is in reality 100 per cent.

In Texas, a five-year-old boy died following circumcision complications.18 In Miami a

boy bled to death after circumcision.19 Yet another circumcision-related death recently

occurred in Cleveland.20 Sometimes, the entire penis is lost, and several boys have

undergone gender reassignment (often unacceptable to the victim) resulting from this

tragedy.21 In Seattle, to save his life, one baby’s penis was denuded, his scrotum

completely removed, and his skin from his thighs up to his navel had to be excised to stop

gangrene spreading from his circumcision wound.22

Circumcision causes behavioural and neurological changes, diminished self-esteem and

body image, sexual deficits, and often lifelong circumcision-related stress.23 Many men

see themselves as deformed or harmed by male genital mutilation, causing enduring

psychological damage.24 Many circumcised men suffer ongoing symptoms of post-

traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).25 Recent research has found substantial evidence for

severe, ongoing PTSD symptoms in adulthood as a direct result of infant circumcision.26

A 1997 infant circumcision pain study was abandoned because inflicting pain on

unanaesthetised controls was deemed unethical.27 During the circumcision, a baby’s blood

oxygen level drops.28 His heart rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure, and stress measures

such as cortisol level shoot up.29 His cry takes on a surprisingly high-pitched character

observed only when a baby experiences excruciating pain.30

Pain may be blunted but not eliminated by local anaesthesia.31 Pain causes irreversible

changes in the developing brain, heightening pain perception.32 Atrophy of non-stimulated

neurons in the brain’s pleasure centre follows severed erogenous sensory nerve endings.33

Circumcised boys react with greater pain intensity to immunisations six months after

circumcision.34 In a relatively rare joint statement this past February, the AAP and the

CPS issued a joint policy statement acknowledging the very grave effects of neonatal pain:

“[E]xposure to prolonged or severe pain may increase neonatal morbidity; infants who

experienced pain during the neonatal period (up to 1 month of age) respond differently to

subsequent painful events…”35

Circumcision violates domestic law

Infant circumcision in the absence of specific medical justification violates Article 7 of

the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which assures everyone “the right to life,

liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in

accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.”36

The general rule in Canada is that criminal assault occurs whenever a person, without

the consent of another person, applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or

indirectly.37 The law is similar for civil actions. As one landmark Canadian case held,

“any intentional nonconsensual touching which is harmful or offensive to a person’s

reasonable sense of dignity is actionable.”38 Consent of the victim serves as a defence to

assaults that do not inflict actual bodily harm but typically will not prevent liability where

bodily harm occurs. Exceptions to the general prohibition on assaults causing bodily harm

include medical treatment. Dr. Margaret Somerville, one of Canada's leading ethicists and

Founding Director of the McGill Centre for Medicine, Ethics and Law, has eloquently

expressed the legally suspect basis of this procedure:

“All woundings are criminal assault unless they can be justified... A therapeutic aim is

the justification for almost all medical wounding and is an essential justification for those

unable to consent to the wounding for themselves. Consequently, a physician would need

to show that infant male circumcision was medically necessary before it would be

justified.”39

Every doctor has two legal duties: first, to act with reasonable care; and secondly, to

obtain informed consent from the patient, except in a life-threatening medical emergency.

Failure to obtain informed consent renders any bodily intrusion an assault. The Supreme

Court of Canada has stressed the legal requirement that physicians fully inform patients of

the risks entailed by a proposed treatment.40

When circumcisions have resulted in litigation, the cases have been fought on the

grounds of negligence or lack of informed consent. A British Columbia court ordered a

urologist to pay $40,000 damages to a patient compelled to undergo plastic surgery as an

adult because of a circumcision he underwent at the age of twelve.41 Last year, a

settlement was reached in a $10 million lawsuit over a botched circumcision which severed

the tip of a Cleveland boy’s penis.42

Also, actions have been based on lack of informed consent. In Alabama, a newborn was

circumcised against his mother’s wishes, resulting in a verdict of US$65,000, and a similar

case in New York is currently the subject of litigation.43

Parents should require the doctor to explain to them all inherent risks and possible

complications, such as severe pain, meatal stenosis, penile necrosis, lifelong sexual

dysfunction, brain damage, and even death. Once the foreskin with its thousands of

erogenous nerve endings and exquisitely sensitive frenulum has been severed, it can never

be replaced. The infant victim has no say in the matter, and is forced to live with the

adverse physical, reduced sexual, and psychological/post-traumatic stress disorder

consequences for the remainder of his life.

The requirements of informed consent mandate that full information be provided and

that no pressure be placed on parents to assent to a circumcision. Nevertheless, medical

doctors rarely provide complete information of all complications which may follow

circumcision, and some explicitly advocate non-therapeutic circumcision.

Parents cannot consent to non-therapeutic medical procedures

Given international instruments and domestic common law principles and case law,

grave doubt exists as to whether even a truly informed parent can consent to the non-

therapeutic circumcision of a child.44

Under the Convention on the Rights of the Child, Art 12, any child capable of forming

his or her own views has the right to express those views freely in all matters affecting him

or her, and for those views to be given due weight in accordance with age and maturity.

Newborn babies cannot express a view on whether they should be circumcised.

Circumcising children removes their choice for all time.

Unless a medical procedure is necessary to preserve life or health, it should be

postponed until the child is sufficiently mature to make a decision for himself or herself.

Wherever proposed treatment is not unequivocally beneficial to the child, parental assent is

insufficient.

The Bioethics Committee of the American Academy of Pediatrics emphasised that the

power to consent to a procedure rests solely with patients:

“Only patients who have appropriate decisional capacity and legal empowerment can

give their informed consent to medical care. In all other situations, parents or other

surrogates provide informed permission for diagnosis and treatment of children with the

assent of the child whenever appropriate.”

They also concluded:

“Thus, ‘proxy consent’ poses serious problems for pediatric health care providers. Such

providers have legal and ethical duties to their child patients to render competent

medical care based on what the patient needs, not what someone else expresses.”46

Nor do religious considerations permit parents to elect nontherapeutic procedures for

their nonconsenting children. Canadian courts have repeatedly held that even if a parent is

motivated by religious beliefs, he or she is powerless to consent to a procedure which does

not confer a genuine medical benefit upon the child, particularly where it also may cause

actual harm.47

Involuntary circumcision violates human rights law

Canadian courts have stressed that domestic law must be interpreted in accordance with

Canada’s international treaty obligations, which further oblige Canada to execute its

provisions within the country.48

Ratified by every country in the world except the United States and Somalia, the United

Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child safeguards the child’s right to autonomy

and bodily integrity – rights violated by neonatal male circumcision. Article 19 provides

that states shall take all appropriate measures “to protect the child from all forms of

physical or mental violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment

or exploitation, including sexual abuse, while in the care of parent(s), legal guardian(s) or

any other person who has the care of the child.” Article 24(3) urges “abolishing traditional

practices prejudicial to the health of children.” Article 6(2) safeguards the survival and

development of the child.

The following human rights treaties applicable in Canada also prohibit male genital

mutilation based on such critical rights as the right to bodily integrity, the right to freedom

of religion, the right to the highest attainable standard of health, the right to protection

against torture, and the right to equal protection:

• Charter of the United Nations: Art 55(c);

• International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: Arts 7, 9, 18.3 and 24.1;

• Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

Arts 3, 5, 6, 7, 12 and 25(2);

• Convention on the Rights of the Child:

Arts 14.1, 14.3, 16, 24.1, 24.2, 34 and 37(b).

Official acknowledgment of circumcision as a human rights violation is growing.

Germany awarded political asylum to a Turkish man based on his fear of enforced

circumcision:

“There may be ... no doubt that a circumcision which has taken place against the will of

the person affected shows … a violation of his physical and psychological integrity

reversed on other grounds, 65 D.L.R. (4th) 1.

which is of significance to asylum.”49

Two United Nations reports recognise sexual assault on males, including circumcision,

as torture and a violation of human rights.50

Discriminatory prohibition of female genital mutilation violates human rights

In 1997 the Canadian Parliament amended Section 268 of the Criminal Code of

Canada, dealing with aggravated assault, so as to it specifically outlaw all forms of

female genital mutilation (FGM).51

Section 268 prohibits the surgical cutting for non-medical reasons of female genitalia

but fails to address male genital cutting. Such a distinction based on gender directly

conflict with sections 15 and 28 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

(Charter). Section 15 (1) bars discrimination based on, among other things, sex.

Section 28 provides, “Notwithstanding anything in this Charter, the rights and

freedoms referred to in it are guaranteed equally to male and female persons.” The

federal law in the United States outlawing FGM52 similarly violates equal protection

principles enshrined in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the American

Constitution. When it comes to issues of health and bodily integrity, sometimes males

do end up with the short end of the stick.

Countries which proscribe even the mildest forms of female circumcision – which may

involve only a nick to the clitoris and/or excision of the female prepuce (Type 1) – but

permit infant male circumcision – involving surgical amputation of the entire foreskin – are

failing to provide equal protection of the right to bodily integrity for male minors. Laws

against female genital mutilation, which do not simultaneously prohibit male genital

mutilation, contravene principles of equal protection enshrined in human rights law. They

directly conflict with Art 7 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states:

“All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal

protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in

violation of the Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.”

Likewise, these nations contravene Art 2 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,

Art 2 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, and Arts 1(3), and 55(c) of the United

Nations Charter. All United Nations members are bound by these and all Charter

provisions.

One frequent rationalisation for legislation addressing only female genital mutilation is

the supposedly dramatic contrast in severity between female genital mutilation and male

genital mutilation. However, circumcision removes a considerable area of erogenous penile

skin (an area corresponding to 64 to 90 sq cm in adult males),53 causing significant

damage. Human rights principles are absolute, not subject to balancing in the scales of

international justice relative to other violations. Interpretations of human rights law which

recognise female genital mutilation but not male genital mutilation as violations infringe on

equal protection principles enshrined in international law.

Growing resistance

For nearly two decades, the United States-based National Organization of Circumcision

Information Resource Centers (NOCIRC)54, which has a number of Canadian branches,

has been on the forefront of organised resistance to circumcision (as well as all forms of

female genital mutilation). Organised Canadian opposition to circumcision has been

increasing dramatically in recent years, with the founding of the Circumcision Information

and Resource Centre (CIRC)55 and INTACT.56 In the United States, profession-specific

organisations have been founded which are all lobbying aggressively against involuntary

circumcision, including Doctors Opposing Circumcision, Nurses for the Rights of the

Child, and Attorneys for the Rights of the Child.57

Others of us are using slow skin stretching techniques to "restore" our foreskins.

Actually this process only partially heals one of the three harmful effects of circumcision

discussed above, namely the loss of covering of the glans. Nevertheless, successful

restoring men report significantly improved sensitivity of their glans.

Jim Bigelow's excellent book "The Joy of Uncircumcising" discusses foreskin

restoration

techniques and also documents the problems caused by this barbaric practice, as do other

books such as Ronald Goldman's monumental "Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma ($21.95

postpaid from Vanguard Publications, 888-445-5199).

Conclusion

Reasons for concern about infant male circumcision under human rights principles

include:

• the loss of highly erogenous sexual tissue which also serves important protective

functions;

• the loss of bodily integrity;

• traumatic and often highly painful disfigurement;

• complications including death and the loss of the entire penis;58 and

• the impermissibility of any mutilation of children’s genitals performed with neither their

consent nor medical justification.

No basis in international human rights law or domestic law justifies the discriminatory

prohibition of only female genital mutilation.

Non-therapeutic, invasive and irreversible major surgery, especially sexual reduction

surgery on unconsenting minors, is unethical. The standard of care for infrequent events

such as infections is antibiotics, not amputation. Circumcision of healthy male minors is

useless and traumatic, causing severe and lasting harm physically, sexually and often

psychologically.

Enforced non-therapeutic genital cutting of unconsenting minors is overdue for

recognition by the legal community as sexual mutilation.59 As we enter the 21st century,

appropriate legal action must be taken to safeguard the physical genital integrity of male

children. We must put a stop to this serious impairment of our health and bodily integrity.

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There is no such thing as "medical necessity". Are we really going to allow the medical system, the very same one that justified electing to intruding into the genitals of children, decide what counts as "medical necessity".

Making exemptions for "medical necessity" hands the keys to the kingdom to our systemic oppressors. What if the anti-slavery movement said slavery should be abolished, except as punishment for criminals who's criminal status is determined by the confederate government and the KKK? Do you understand how F-ing absurd that is.

I don't understand how so many in Intactivism and people "on my side" have fallen so far away from any sort of reasonable justice. The medical system is our systemic oppressor. Why would we ever want them to be involved in a position of power ever again, much less defer to their judgement for when to circumcise.

Phimosis, infections, frostbite, I don't care. I want circumcision off the table entirely. Under no circumstance should this be permitted ever again for any reason.

Honestly fuck regret parents. There I said it. “ we didn’t know any better” yeah but now your son is forced to live with that for the rest of there life. So fuck you. Also fuck the regret parents who had multiple sons and did half of them and the learned better for the others. Your older son’s genitals are still fucked up because of you. And now get to live with the shame and harms of your mistake while there younger brother gets put above them all because “ mommy didn’t know better at that time”. So fuck you. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

This is pretty self explanatory. The more diverse the tone and nuance on the subject, the better content creators can make viral posts ( I am a content creator).

But more importantly....

When you have the same person posting over and over again, (when there are literally thousands of group members) the tone gets dry and it also get DOWN RANKED on the social media platforms' explore page, recommended section and FYP (for you page on tiktok) because platforms prioritize evolving narratives (trends) over all.

Do not argue with me. This isn't an opinion, it is a mathematically bound algorithm that decides this. I am just the messenger.

If they did research on circumcision AFTER THE FUCKING THING HAPPENED they are not redeemable. You cannot forgive society for circumcising you. The act in itself is irreconcilable.The shift from Brit Milah (Pulling the foreskin forward and snipping) to Brit Peri'ah (Peeling the foreskin off the glans fully) is what makes modern circumcision so brutal, and was introduced around 140 A.D. a generation or two after the fall of the temple 70 AD. And it destroys the lives of millions of men today, around the world.