Hello, I recently returned after a roughly 9 million year break and looking to actually get into the game this time around. I've played for about 100 hours before I stopped and I've played other fighting games seriously before, but FH is obviously pretty different to a traditional 2D fighter.

Match ups obviously just take time, but what are the core fundamentals I should be working on for this game? In particular I find I struggle to deal with people that spam out dodge attacks effectively (which is for sure a skill issue on my part), but it's been so long since I played I'm basically starting fresh so anything at all foundational would be helpful.

Also I want to main Warmonger so if you have any particular advice for her I would appreciate that as well.

Thank you for your time.

The main things, based on what I've heard before, are that Storm Rush is hard/super hard (or maybe just straight-up unrealistic in general) to use against players with fast reaction speeds and strong game knowledge because it's vulnerable to being stuffed with lights, and that his kit just isn't quite strong enough or given "top-tier tools" to compensate for having the 120HP pool - but I'm not really "sure" about the full picture.

Orochi seems to generally be considered pretty strong and solid for the majority of dueling skill levels, so I'm just curious about why Orochi really drops against the top players despite having really strong tools like his great dodge cancels.

Or is it more of a case of "Orochi is solid enough for the most part - but simply outclassed and not that desirable to choose over other characters with similar UB/deflect mixup playstyles"?

So i made a post in the regular for honor sub asking people what rework or buff ideas they had for conquerer specifically in duels as he is placed in the middle of B tier by blits tierlist and man it wasn't received well at all. To them, he has insane offensive pressure and apparently an infinite unblockable chain that's super OP with the best defense in the game. I laughed as the players I fight consistently react to and parry conqs unblockable heavies, something I reliably do too.

Despite this, I picked conq back up again for a day after a year or 2 of untouched rep 4 rah rah rah man and I got to say I think im picking him up well finally. Got maybe a 70-80% win rate with him so far, even against some very very good players.

So my question is this: what's some tricks and tips for the hero for me to improve on further? Perhaps some cool tech or tactics I can implement? Im a huge fan of his new roll catcher and its mixups is what really made me see the hero differently and with a new enjoyment for them. Any tips would be greatly appreciated as well as maybe a good conq main YouTuber I can watch?

On a side note: How well do you all think conq performs at a high level in duels? Im still confident in agreeing that he is mid B tier, maybe even high B against some players. His matchups seem to not be too drastic in terms of advantages from what I can tell so far.

Any input is greatly appreciated for this potentially newly aspired conq main !

Not sure if this will come to fruition but it was cool to see this may be happening. I have been wanting ranked to return for over 9 years now and will be ecstatic if it does. Its exactly what this game needs to bring life back to it and hopefully encourage the community to improve.

I haven't seen anyone mention this highly-specific bug anywhere yet so i'll do so on here. The following has been tested with multiple people in the training grounds as well as customs and pubs.

As many of you guys know, in order to preserve frame advantage as Shinobi in your chains after landing a sickle rain and continue your offense you have to do just 2 guaranteed lights and then flip. Doing so against any other hero results in a bit of an extra stagger and makes the flip kick uninterruptible by lights and makes sickle rain trade with the light if they didn't switch guard.

NOW, Arakure doesn't get staggered at all, almost recovering back to neutral near-instantly. That results in her getting a free, unpunishable light OR zone if the shinobi dares to flip away during the sickle rain. No matter after how many hits you flip away, the result is the same. For a less useful but good-to-know thing that results from this interaction, you can buffer a backdodge and roll and you'll escape both the bash and undodgable by quite a distance ALTHOUGH the Shinobi can counter this by double dodging forwards into the rollcatcher.

As i said, it's extremely niche that it doesn't surprise me it slipped through the cracks of the QA team but this knowledge is now out there. Unfortunately i do not have any videos as of now to properly show side-by-side how this interaction is normally behaving vs Arakure's case but once i free some storage and find someone to clip these with i'll make sure to link it here or make a new post entirely about it. Cheers!

1- The first question is about indicators, does indicator system always prioritize the hit that is going to hit first?

So in an anti gank let's say 2 enemies are attacking at the same timing, the indicator should hide the second attacker and only show the hit that is going to hit first right?

2- second question is about registers, do hits categorize in the same category even if the characters are different?

Let's say there are shinobi and nobushi in a match, when they bash someone, let's say the shinobi bashed one person and the game registered the bash. Then nobushi bashed the same guy later and the game registered it. Does the game register these 2 different bashes in the same category?

Thanks

Been playing since release and couldn’t deal with him then, and can’t deal with him now. The only benefit I’ve seen with him is his demons embrace doesn’t 1 shot you anymore.

But his variable timing heavies I just cannot deal with. And anytime I go to bash while he’s charging up (depending on character) I get guard broken as I dash.

I swear his lights are the only light attacks in the game I cannot parry, I don’t know why, maybe there’s not a lot of telegraphing? But I just don’t know how to beat him. 8/10 encounters I loose

Can anyone give me advice?

I fought an afeera today in duels as sohei, juren and jorm my 3 mains and got walked all over by her in the 4 matches we played, I dont know when which moves i can dodge attack or gb, and when the afeera starts spam feinting her neutral bash it feels like i have to make a billion reads and my brain just turns off or something, shes super stressful to fight what should i know that will help me in my future fights against her?

I've never had the opportunity to play for honor on a beefed up PC. I currently run my setup on an Xbox series x on a 144 hz monitor with a 3 Ms response time.

I wonder if any of you have made the leap from new gen consoles to high end PC gameplay and noticed a smoother and experience/ if it mad an impact on reactions and gameplay.

I have her at 9 reps so I know her kit already, I've also been watching this one channel called Omnipotentgamer1 so I know what good gameplay looks like. My problem is I don't know how he does it and it's genuinely a hassle to try and play her in the same way. So does anyone have anything constructive to say for when trying to play her well in 4's?

I'm loving the new hero, she's a lotta fun, but my God, her numbers just feel tuned as if they really didn't want her to be good.

On paper she's fine, she's got red/blue mixups, but the risk reward is just legendarily bad.

Her damage is so low, her mixups are so unsafe. I have whiffed Juren's forward dodge bash and been able to block the dodge attack, but you whiff Arakure's nut kick and your opponent can do whatever the hell they want. You can really tell that Arakure was not as pushed by comparison.

Idk tho, I don't claim to be any kind of expert. Lmk if I'm just stupid.

edit: forgot to mention as well that having no backstepping attacks to get into her chain pressure makes neutral miserable

Aren't they basically the same thing? Both available after most moves in-chain, both 800 ms and faintable. But with completely lopsided reward values. Both if missed guarantee a guardbreak, but one of them guarantees 28 damage and the other only 13? Can anyone explain to me why these two damage values exist at the same time in the game? Because better hitboxes in 4v4's definitely isn't enough to justify this right?

T1: Against the World

Passive | Landing a Lash Out attack grants a 10% damage buff for 5s. 10s cooldown. Active duration is reset if another Lash Out attack is landed whilst the buff is active.

This feat is pretty good, an almost free damage bonus in teamfights. A pretty decent pick even with other strong T1 options, though I do wish they’d stop making passive feats with cooldowns. If they’re gonna allow it to refresh then they should just remove the cooldown altogether.

Suggestion: remove 10s cooldown

T2: Insolent Shout

Reduces damage of opponents in an Xm AOE for 20s based on the current Strike Level as follows: Idle - 10% | Onslaught - 20% | Ultimate - 30% | 120s cooldown

I’m sure this one is still somewhat helpful at half meter, but I hate feeling like I’m missing out on potential when I use it early, especially with a long cooldown like this. I’d feel less bad about using it without a full meter if the cooldown was shorter. Not to mention that other heroes have damage reduction feats of a similar level that are available much more frequently, and that the animation leaves you exposed for a decently long time for a feat that’s meant to be used around multiple enemies. Her other T2 choices are mediocre but seem to provide more consistent value anyway.

Suggestions: reduce cooldown to 75s, allow animation to be canceled with another action

T3: Walk it Off

Cleanses negative status effects, and heals self an amount depending on current Strike Meter as follows: Idle - 15 hp | Onslaught - 30hp | Ultimate - 45hp | 180s cooldown

Same primary problem as the T2, too long a cooldown for a feat that has conditional values. The negative status effect cleanse is really not strong enough to warrant a 180s cooldown on its own, especially considering second wind already cleanses the most common status effects with 120s cooldown and an unconditional 30 hp heal. The animation is at least short enough for use in a team fight. I’ve been using hard to kill instead as, while it’s also mediocre, it provides more value if you get down to critical health more than 2 times in 180s, especially so when combined with indomitable.

Suggestions: reduce cooldown to 120s, slightly increase heal (maybe 20/35/50 as suggested by u/Knight_Raime)

T4: Gang of Outcasts

Fills Strike Meter and prevents its decay for 20s. Additionally buffs self and allies within Xm AOE with the following effects: Light attacks become enhanced | Heavy attacks gain Hyperarmor | Attacking does not consume stamina | 180s cooldown

To be honest, I haven’t used this one yet. Indomitable is just too good to pass up, especially with her playstyle being so dependent on trading. I love the idea thematically, but in MM it’s unlikely that teammates will take advantage of it and it hardly provides any additional survivability. I would gladly trade unlimited stamina for some damage reduction. Selfishly it also seems like a good opener since it fills the strike meter, but again, indomitable seems to provide more consistent value.

Suggestions: replace unlimited stamina with 15% damage reduction

Additional Solutions

Another way they could help the viability of some of these feats is to provide some method of reducing their cooldown through good play. Perhaps landing attacks could reduce the cooldown by 2/2.5s per attack? This would require her to land 45/36 attacks to get the T2 down to a comparable cooldown to other feats, and would require 30/24 attacks to get the T3 down to the cooldown of second wind.

Any thoughts? I’m sure these feats are better with coordinated play, but they could still use some help, and I don’t think they should be left in the dust at MM level either.

I had a very humbling experience in mm by going up against a team that actually knew how to gank, they werent even in a group they just all knew what they were doing, I got hit by light confirms, gb confirms, bash confirms. I know that against light confirm ganking you have to parry the light attack to prevent the gank, wih gbs you have to early parry the heavy or just counter gb from what i was told by the people i played against, often times though I'd be hit by the gb or see the light part of the gank and it felt like i had no time to react to parry the light or counter gb before I got hit by the following heavy, I'm wondering if this is just a skill issue/something i can train myself to react to

How good is Tiandi now?

I feel like the damage is incredibly low considering this new hero has the exact same blue/orange forward dodge but with a lot more damage. I mean he's probably good in 1s still because that mixup is still good.

Is there any reason to fullblock after whiffing an attack or hitting someone externally with a side attack, I just finished watching freeze's framecheck and all i cpuld see was tapping full block on hit shortened recoveries by 66ms, but nothing about whiffing or externalling, is this because it doesnt affect your recoveries in these situations?