r/CureAphantasia

Acquired Aphantasia From Antidepressant

I’m a 24 year old male who was prescribed an antidepressant to help with sleep. After the first or second dose, my internal monologue, ability to generate thoughts, emotions, and ability to experience awards diminished significantly. This has gotten progressively worse over the past 6 months, triggered by things such as alcohol (even small amounts) and supplements for sleep. Now, I can not get a song stuck in my head, I have zero thoughts, cant imagine anything/daydream, and no longer get goosebumps from music. Is this something I am going to have to live with for the rest of my life? Before this, my mind would never shut up, now its just an empty void. I am trying a combonation of guanfacine, NAC, omega 3s, lithium orotate, probiotics, and will start neurofeedback shortly. My diet is mostly whole foods and I generally get a good amount of movement. Has anyone else had any luck on reversing antidepressant induced aphantasia and anauralia? How long did it take?

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u/Stormy_Echo21 — 2 days ago

Alapv's bullshitting

I'm Alapv. I'm aphantasic -> hyperphantasic. If you've known me long enough and are experienced enough with visualization, this is basically a progressive overload quick trick to improve visualization. If you are a hater, skip this. I don't reply to baseless cynicism or people trying to figure things out. I'm not a professional scientist don't ask me to provide proof.

  1. New aphantasia understanding.
  2. Ever wonder why despite dogs have been living with us for thousands of years, they never develop our linguistic fluency or tools usage? Or why psychopaths are incapable of sympathizing with others? That's right. Lack of nervous system required for those specific functions (and can't develop the functions). Same for aphantasics, we lack the brain part responsible for storing images and therefore recalling these images for visualization. To be more precise, we do store images but oftens times as words or concepts instead of the literal images themselves. Here's what it looks like:

https://preview.redd.it/xknbtyvuc22h1.png?width=2554&format=png&auto=webp&s=0af04f30c65282c8c8cc1018e9d7d66a5861b305

  1. So what we do?
    We pivot to another universal human learning mechanism which is "thoughts creation" and "holding as much information as possible". There's a human benchmark test that's perfect to demonstrate what circumventing visualization looks like: https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/chimp

Basically there're a lot of close eyes and imagining the invisible links between the numbers. You can get creative as long as you are accurate and are able to progress to the next level. The same thing for visualization: you take a good look at the image and assume a bunch of bullshit about the image, might it be concept, verbal as long as you get close to the spatial/weighty feel of image then you are getting very close to actual visualization. It kinda looks like this

Yes \"random bullshit go\"

  1. Please remember this: You cannot store images, it's physically impossible.
    You cannot look at colors, flat images, and videos and remember them. Aphantasics physically lack a visual storer, they cannot develop their visual library the same way dogs cannot develop a language speaking capability. The only thing you can do is "live image analysis," basically choosing an image you like and analyze it, cycling your thoughts at an inhuman level. I promise it will produce actual visualization given that your intensity is good enough. Basically "natural phantasics' visualization is about storing and recalling image, man-made phantasics' visualization is literally making everything from scratch"

  2. Food
    This one is important because I find choline to have direct impact on my thoughts creating capability. You can either buy supplements or eat 3 eggs 30 mins before practice.

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u/MentalReserve2351 — 3 days ago

Awake 'breakthrough' turned nightmare

Hey folks!

I've had aphantasia for as long as I can remember... First noticed in theatre when a friend told me they could see themselves anywhere on stage and I thought they are super unique and unusual (took me another 5 years to realise that maybe I'm the unusual one!)

Anyways I saw an account from another redditor here that inspired me to try and train my minds eye by relaxing and watching the shapes that form with my eyes closed. I did this a few times whilst resting and it didn't lead to the 'snap' of visuals he described... The moment i looked at any swirls they disappeared... So far so normal right?

Skip forward to tonight. I woke up from a happy-ish dream at 4am that I wanted to get back to but vividness just kept fading into feint lines and shapes until eventually northing again... I had woken up and I'm in bed. Undeterred I wasn't ready to leave haha. I remember the exercise from the paragraph below and started to do it.

At first I saw nothing... But then some geometric shapes started to take shape... Against a black background I started to see what I could see a series of light rectangles form geometric patterns in the center. At this point I'm getting pretty excited as I'm for the first time able to track the shapes and also that they are seemingly not random, there's actual structure! Big success right? (Attached image of loosely what it looked like)visual mockup

For 20-30 secs I just 'watch' as the patterns change until eventually i decide to try and influence them. I tried to 'guide' the dozens of rectangles to form a sword.... A few seconds later ..

SNAP! Faster than a blink I was suddenly in a room (attached a very close approximationmock up ). I was in a dimly lit concert hall and on stage looking towards the full room. Dark around the edges and I couldn't see the back of the hall... There were a few orange/yellow oil lamps or something scattered around. I suddenly felt a mixture of initial excitement as I was conscious in this 'snap' but then I quickly realised I didn't like this space... It felt off. This was not what I wanted to imagine. Suddenly it started to feel like I was in 'hell'. The weird feeling was that despite being aware I was in my mind... This felt realer than real - like I actually was inside my mind and experiencing a more pure form of experience... Trippy

I opened my eyes, looked around the bed... But the flashes of a 'demon' appeared and for a few moments was just coming towards me regardless if my eyes were open or not... Kinda like an overlay where I could see both my room and the demon in the center of my vision. My body moved really slowly (sleep paralysis?) but eventually i could snap out of it. But damn, I've been on edge for a hour and can't help worry this could accidentally become a reoccurring hallucination. This is what I could see with my eyes open

I don't think I've ever had an experience like that before... It felt maybe somewhere between awake and asleep but I felt fully conscious throughout and was very aware I'm attempting an exercise. Even with the hall and demon I knew this was my mind... I just worried I unlocked a skill I wish I hadn't! I should note that I heard no sounds throughout which I normally do when dreaming

Curious if any of you have had similar experiences or know what happened? It is super promising as a way to practice conscious and lucid imagery but maybe 4am in the dark room wasn't the smartest place to attempt 😅

Happy cure-finding folks!

u/Pikasoul — 12 days ago

Auditory Visualisation, A new Aphantasia boss

Has anyone had experience developing their auditory visualisation?

I know that Aphantasia is really about visual images in your head.
However, Has anyone thought about your auditory (and other sensory) visualisation?

If you were to visualise a sound, or someones voice, (if you can at all conjure that up)
Is it:
The exact sound or their exact voice
OR
Your voice's best interpretation of it

I ask this because, some people do hear the other persons voice and, idk, the sound of a violin.
I however, only hear my own best recreation of such a sound.
As in, I do not hear another persons voice. If I am imagining a conversation between me and a friend, it is just a conversation between me....and me.
If I was to imagine the sound of a violin, it'd be as close in my head as I could make it with my own voice as if I were to do it aloud.

I have no idea where to start with this!
I've found great progress with visualisation by meditating. (I believe a pinned or the top post of all time has the method I used, I didn't know of it, but it is pretty much what I did!

Now that I've defeated visual images, I want to defeat this next boss!

I've also heard that people can imagine smells, and touch, and taste. So, there's a whole world out there (well, in here)

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u/ooglasaur — 10 days ago