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Detailed Breakdown & Prediction of EB-3 ROW Priority Date for FY2027

**Long post Alert**

Yesterday, I replied to a few comments with my predictions. I received a variety of responses, so I wanted to make a separate post with a more detailed breakdown of my reasoning and hopefully start a productive discussion about Visa Bulletin predictions.

I know many people here are in the EB-3 ROW category and are eagerly waiting for their priority dates to become current. I am optimistic that the Visa Bulletin could see large advances across employment-based categories in FY 2027. I want to offer some hope to people in this community, but I also welcome the strongest counterarguments from the pessimists here. I am not a lawyer or a statistician, and I am genuinely trying to pressure-test this theory.

Here is my reasoning:

I do not expect significant forward movement for EB-3 ROW in the September Visa Bulletin. If it moves by one month, that would be great, but I think there is a meaningful chance that it will not move at all. I would put that at roughly 50/50.

The major event, in my view, will be the October bulletin and the beginning of FY 2027.

More than 90 countries have been affected by either the consular-processing pause, the travel/entry restrictions, or both for most of FY 2026. Consular processing is heavily weighted toward family-based immigration. If a large number of family-based immigrant visas cannot be issued during FY 2026, those family-based visa numbers may go unused.

Under the statutory allocation framework, unused family-based visa numbers spill into employment-based categories in the following fiscal year. That means the effect would appear only after October 1, 2026, when FY 2027 begins.

My understanding is that additional EB numbers are first available across the overall employment-based system, with usage flowing through EB-1, EB-2, and then EB-3 depending on demand. Since EB-1 ROW and EB-2 ROW have been current for much of the year, that suggests that ROW demand in those categories has not exceeded available visa supply. Therefore, I believe a large portion of the expanded EB quota could eventually benefit EB-3 ROW.

India and China are different cases. Their demand in EB-1 and EB-2 remains much higher, so they may absorb a significant share of extra visa numbers. Even so, I still expect faster-than-normal forward movement for India and China because of the larger overall employment-based quota.

Some people have argued that horizontal spillover and India/China demand will absorb nearly all of the extra numbers. I do not think that conclusion follows automatically. EB-2 and EB-3 ROW have already seen substantial movement this year, while EB-1 and EB-2 India remain heavily backlogged. In my view, that supports the possibility that extra numbers can benefit both ROW and backlogged countries rather than being consumed by only one group.

For people worried about a massive later retrogression, here is the optimistic part of my argument: once FY 2027 begins and unused family-based numbers have transferred into the EB quota, lifting a consular-processing pause later would not, in my understanding, send those visa numbers back to the family-based categories. I have not seen a historical example of that occurring.

The bigger retrogression risk would be if the pause or ban is lifted before the end of FY 2026 and enough family-based immigrant visas can still be issued before September 30. At this point, I see no clear indication that the pause will be lifted early enough to fully reverse the unused-number effect.

There may be some employment-based applicants abroad who reenter the demand pool if restrictions are lifted, but I believe that group is relatively limited compared with the broader family-based consular demand affected by the pause. For that reason, even if retrogression occurs later, I expect it to be measured in months rather than years.

My prediction

I expect major forward movement across employment-based categories beginning with the October 2026 Visa Bulletin.

For EB-3 ROW, I see two plausible outcomes:

  • A large initial advance of roughly 3 to 6 months in October; or
  • Sustained forward movement of roughly 1 to 2 months per bulletin through FY 2027.

I expect EB-1 ROW and EB-2 ROW to remain current throughout FY 2027. I also think there is a real possibility that EB-1 India advances by more than one year, although that is obviously a more speculative prediction.

I know this is highly optimistic. Still, I think the combination of unused family-based numbers, prolonged consular restrictions, and relatively manageable ROW demand in EB-1 and EB-2 creates conditions for a much more favorable FY 2027 than many people expect.

We are only about one month away from the October 2026 Visa Bulletin. Either this post will age like gold, or it will age like milk. 😄

I hope you enjoyed my speculation.

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u/Ok-Situation3807 — 16 hours ago

EB-2 vs EB-3 for Accountant — Similar Experiences?

Hi everyone, I’m asking on behalf of a friend.

He has:

  • Master’s in Business/Accounting from his home country
  • MBA from the U.S.
  • 10+ years of accounting experience
  • Currently working as an Accountant in Texas, earning around $80K
  • Employer is willing to sponsor his green card

The PERM process has not started yet — not even the PWD has been filed. However, the immigration attorney is recommending EB-3, while my friend believes he may qualify for EB-2 (PERM-based, not NIW) based on his education and experience.

Has anyone with a similar accounting/finance background, advanced degree, and 8–10+ years of experience successfully pursued EB-2?

If so, what were the requirements listed for your PERM position, and how did you discuss EB-2 vs. EB-3 with your attorney?

Any similar experiences or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/Important-Nerve-347 — 1 day ago

Why the September Visa Bulletin Has Not Yet Been Released

Allow me to be speculative on the release of September 2026 Visa Bulletin:

The Department of State typically publishes the monthly Visa Bulletin during the third week of the month preceding its effective date. The federal fiscal year closes on September 30, the release of the September bulletin is often subject to careful end-of-year data compilation, final demand tallies, and cross-agency coordination with USCIS to evaluate remaining annual visa numbers.

As the fiscal year draws to a close, the Department of State must tightly manage the remaining annual statutory caps for family-sponsored and employment-based preference categories.

All eyes are wide open as we wait for the news!

u/Sorry-Feedback1115 — 1 day ago

[Atualização] A ilusão do tempo de espera do EB-3 Unskilled (EW3): Criei uma plataforma gratuita com +650 mil casos para você calcular o tempo real até o seu Green Card.

Olá a todos!

Há algum tempo, fiz um post aqui fazendo uma análise profunda dos dados do USCIS sobre a categoria EB-3 Não Qualificado (Other Workers / EW3). (https://www.reddit.com/r/EB3VisaJourney/comments/1umg3gb/the_eb3_unskilled_ew3_wait_time_illusion_why_the/) Naquele post, mostrei como matematicamente o Boletim de Vistos está ocultando um backlog (acúmulo) real de 10 a 15 anos, e por que a promessa de "4 a 5 anos de espera" vendida por muitas agências e advogados é uma ilusão perigosa.

Resumo da realidade (para quem perdeu o último post):

Tivemos um pico gigantesco de aprovações recentes. De 2023 até o início de 2026, mais de 44.000 petições I-140 foram aprovadas.

Cada I-140 tem um efeito multiplicador (cônjuges/filhos). Com um multiplicador conservador, essas 44k petições representam mais de 100.000 pessoas na fila.

O limite anual global do EW3 é estritamente fixado em 10.000 vistos/ano.

100.000 pessoas divididas por 10.000 vagas por ano = 10 anos de espera matemática apenas para processar os pedidos recentes. O Boletim não mostra isso hoje porque ele é um indicador defasado (está processando a galera de 2021). O "muro" está chegando.

A Novidade: Não confie em mim, confie nos dados.

Naquele post, muita gente ficou desesperada e com dúvidas sobre os próprios tempos de espera. Pensando nisso, decidi parar de apenas analisar planilhas soltas e construí uma ferramenta definitiva para a comunidade.

Compilei quase 600 tabelas, totalizando aproximadamente 650 mil casos, mais de 130 mil casos ativos e mais de 120 mil sponsors. Coloquei tudo isso no ar no meu site, o PermQueue, de forma totalmente acessível para vocês.

Aqui estão os links diretos para as ferramentas que crieis:

Calculadora de Tempo de Espera (EB-3 Unskilled):https://permqueue.com/eb3-unskilled Pare de depender de estimativas irreais de agências. Insira sua Priority Date e veja uma estimativa realista e baseada em dados de quanto tempo falta para o seu GC.

Calculadora e Tracker de Aprovação do PERM:https://permqueue.com/perm-tracker Acompanhe o ritmo do Departamento de Trabalho (DOL) e entenda como estão as aprovações da sua etapa.

Dashboard Geral de Dados (Sponsors e Casos):https://permqueue.com/Cards com dados cruciais, volume de casos e informações sobre os empregadores.

A ideia é trazer transparência total para um mercado que lucra com a desinformação. Por favor, façam os testes com as datas de vocês.

Esta é uma versão inicial e eu adoraria a ajuda da comunidade. Deixem comentários aqui com sugestões de melhoria para a calculadora, bugs que encontrarem, ou filtros que vocês gostariam de ver no site.

Boa sorte a todos na jornada!

u/Remote-Mall-1790 — 2 days ago

EB3

I keep getting different answers from different lawyers regarding AOS with advanced parole entry (no unlawful presence, DACA at 16) instead of having to do consular processing for an EB3 Visa. Can someone share their experience?

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u/dp6890 — 3 days ago

EB-3 skilled or unskilled visa - agencies

Hi all,

I’ve already done quite a bit of research into the EB-3 process, but I’ve learned that when it comes to immigration, there’s no such thing as asking too many questions.

Given my background (15+ years of experience in marketing and fluent English) I believe I would qualify for the skilled worker route, so ideally I’d like to explore that option first. That said, I wouldn’t want to rule out the other EB-3 category either if it proves to be a more realistic or viable path.

The biggest challenge seems to be finding an employer who is willing to sponsor you. Doing this independently can be extremely difficult, so I’m considering working with an agency that can help identify potential employers and guide me through the process. I fully understand that legitimate professional assistance comes at a cost; my main concern is making sure I’m dealing with a reputable and trustworthy organisation.

I’ve come across several agencies already, but, as you can imagine, it’s difficult to assess their legitimacy based on websites and online reviews alone.

So I’d really appreciate hearing from people with first-hand experience. Have you personally worked with an EB-3 agency that you would genuinely recommend? If so, which one, and what was your experience like?

I’d be especially interested in:

  • Agencies you’ve personally worked with
  • Positive or negative experiences
  • Any red flags I should watch out for
  • What fees you paid and what those fees covered
  • How transparent the agency was throughout the process
  • Any tips for finding an employer independently

I’m looking for honest experiences rather than promotional recommendations, so any insights, advice, or lessons learned would be hugely appreciated.

Thanks in advance and TIA!

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u/Eire_83 — 4 days ago

U.S. Revokes 175,000+ Visas Over Reported Violations

According to a recent news report by fox news and posted on X: Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration is revoking visas held by foreign nationals who violate U.S. laws or immigration rules, with affected individuals potentially subject to removal from the United States.

The report states that more than 175,000 visas have been revoked. The violations and allegations cited include assault, DUI, theft, drug-related offenses, reckless driving, sexual assault, child abuse, fraud, and embezzlement.

Former Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf argued that visas are a discretionary immigration benefit rather than a right and that the Secretary of State has authority to revoke visas when applicable legal requirements are violated.

u/Sorry-Feedback1115 — 6 days ago

I-140 approved and pending asylum, what do u recommend?

I am from the 75 banned countries and some lawyers adviced me to do consular processing, few others to try an AOS. I wanna read you guys, does anybody ca share any experience like this?

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u/Escarlata1927 — 5 days ago
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Case at NVC

Hi all,

My perm was approved and my case needs to be consular so it was transferred to the NVC back in April. As of today, I have not heard anything from the NVC. Any idea of what the timeline for this is?

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u/Fe_Civil_testtaker — 4 days ago
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E 2 Visa Questions? Immigration Attorney Here for an AMA

Thinking about investing in the U.S. but not sure if your business or investment would actually qualify for an E 2?

Hi everyone! I’m Ana Senior, a U.S. immigration attorney with 14 years of experience and 1,200+ cases filed. I’ve helped clients navigate a wide range of U.S. immigration matters, including E 2 visas, PERM and employment based green cards, and I’m here today to answer your questions.

I’ll be here today from 11 AM to 3 PM ET to answer your questions about E 2 visas, including:

• How much you really need to invest
• What counts as a qualifying investment
• Starting vs. buying an existing U.S. business
• Business plans and the marginal enterprise requirement
• Source of funds questions
• E 2 renewals and extensions
• E 2 dependents
• Common reasons E 2 applications run into problems
• Long term options after getting an E 2

If you've been considering an E 2 or already have one, ask me anything.

Please note: Any information shared here is for general educational purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice or create an attorney client relationship. Your situation may require fact specific guidance. For personalized legal advice, please consult an immigration attorney directly.

u/Ana_Senior — 7 days ago

Regarding EB-3 Unskiller Visa pathway to GC

Hello everyone, currently 21 and a full time student and I’m thinking of filing EB-3 unskilled visa applications/processing.

I’m new to this, idk where or who I can reach out to, I heard we can do counselor processing. I know nothing at all about this. I only know that I have to spend around 20-25 k USD in the span of two years.

I know I should research my self first, that’s why I though I would research my self too and get opinions from people here who are currently working on that and also the people who have done that before got approved and you know moved forward.

Please do help me in the comments!! Thanks a lot everyone ❤️❤️

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u/Intelligent-Mine8007 — 4 days ago

U.S. Charges 11 in Alleged Marriage Fraud Scheme Involving More Than 1,000 Sham Marriages

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged 11 people in connection with an alleged decade-long immigration fraud scheme involving more than 1,000 sham marriages between U.S. citizens and foreign nationals, primarily Chinese nationals.

According to prosecutors, the scheme allegedly operated for more than a decade and was designed to help foreign nationals obtain lawful permanent residency through fraudulent marriages.

Authorities allege that:

- Foreign nationals were charged as much as $100,000 for assistance in arranging a sham marriage and pursuing a green card.

- U.S. citizens were allegedly paid as much as $30,000 to participate in the marriages.

- Recruiters allegedly sought out U.S. citizens willing to participate.

- Facilitators allegedly arranged marriages, immigration paperwork and preparation for USCIS interviews.

- Some defendants allegedly staged wedding or family photographs to make the relationships appear genuine.

- Attorneys, tax preparers and marriage officiants were allegedly involved in different parts of the operation.

- Prosecutors say some of the marriages were also arranged overseas.

The case was brought in the Southern District of New York and prosecutors describe it as one of the largest marriage-fraud prosecutions in U.S. history.

What could this mean for legitimate marriage-based immigration?

u/Sorry-Feedback1115 — 7 days ago

EB3 ROW EB3 JULY 2024 - family / US

Background

Category:EB3 (PD: July 12, 2023)
Center: NBC
Dependents: Family members already received their Combo Cards back in April.

My Timeline (Primary Applicant):**

Feb 2026:** I-485, I-765, I-131 filed concurrently.
May 20, 2026: Biometrics completed.
June 11, 2026: Standalone AP (I-512L paper document) approved.
Aug 12, 2026 Mailed I-485 Supplement J (AC21 Portability to a new sponsor).
Current Status: My EAD (I-765) is still actively reviewing / pending. I-485 is pending for the whole family.

Anyone similar????????

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u/BarrierRepairGuide — 6 days ago

PERM APPROVED

Hey everyone! I just got my PERM certified this past Friday 🎉 My priority date is 9/10/2025, and I originally started the process on 11/26/2024.

For those who have gone through this process, what should I expect next?

I’m also wondering about the EAD (work permit) and Advance Parole (travel permit). Does applying for or receiving either of these have any impact on the Green Card timeline, or do they run separately while the I-485 is pending?

My husband is included as my dependent as well.
Any advice, timelines, or experiences you can share would be greatly appreciated! 🙏

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u/yasbrazilian — 8 days ago

Feel Like Throwing Up.

My appt for EB3, Skilled Worker, was scheduled for August 10th (yesterday) at 9am.

I prepared heavily for it, got to the center early, and met with my lawyer to head inside. We only waited for about an hour before my name was called, and we went in together. The interviewer was so kind and the vibes were excellent.

We went through the standard questions (have you ever done x,y,z), which were very easy to answer truthfully - but then we got around to have you ever been out of status , which was a confident "no" from me. After all - I had full understanding and the timeline of my entry (from 2003) to present - never breaking status.

I was informed, for the first time, however - that during August 2006 to August 2007, my mother had no status. I was 8 years old at the time. Both myself and my lawyer were completely at a loss of words. This was never mentioned to me. This was never shared, nor were there any documents from this time.

Apparently - after my arrival in 2003 as a B2 visitor's visa, my mother had been on an R1 visa from September 2003 until August 2006. Then, as she was waiting to transfer churches + apply for a perm. residency, the waiting started getting long - and so she applied for an F1 student visa. This was approved in 2007.

And she maintainted her F1 (and myself, being the F2 dependent) until I got my own F1 student status in 2016.

She has zero documents from that time. No letter, no notice, no slip, not even a post-it note from that time.

But this single gap in the timeline prevented the interview from proceeding. The interviewer tried to do all that she could - and ultimately, she had to end the interview at that point, stating that this needed to be verified by the legal council. She added to the notes, that I was a minor at the time.

My status currently reads "Your case is being processed" on my USCIS tracker.

I don't know what the outcome will be, or when I will hear word about it. There's talks that I will have to fly back to Korea, apply for the greencard there, then fly back. There's a slim chance that due to the fact that I was never in control in 2006, that this may be deemed as an exception to the bar.

I have severe GAD and an insane fear of flying. This is just about the worst, possible scenario.

I feel like the world is caving in on me. Not sure what to do.

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u/j1tfxint — 8 days ago

🚨 First Ghost Update After 83 Days of Silence! EB-3 Skilled ROW | NBC | Timeline Update

Hey everyone! Long-time lurker here, finally have something to share. This community has been incredibly helpful throughout my journey — especially for understanding backend API tracking. Sharing my update in hopes it helps others!

Case Details:

**•**	Category: EB-3 Skilled Worker, ROW (Turkey — not from any banned/restricted countries)  
**•**	Priority Date: June 19, 2024  
**•**	Field Office: NBC (National Benefits Center)  
**•**	No RFE, No Interview, No NOID

Full Timeline:

**•**	04/13/2026 — I-485, I-485J, I-765 filed concurrently  
**•**	04/20/2026 — Receipt notice received  
**•**	04/21/2026 — IAF event on I-485 and I-485J  
**•**	04/24/2026 — Biometrics notice generated  
**•**	05/15/2026 — Biometrics completed → 2x FTA0 events on I-485  
**•**	06/09/2026 — Derivative (5-year-old daughter) EAD approved (notice date)  
**•**	08/06/2026 — 🚨 FIRST GHOST UPDATE on I-485 at 3:06 AM EST (after 83 days of complete silence!)

Backend API Status:

**•**	I-485: updatedAt changed to 2026-08-06, closed: false, no new event codes yet  
**•**	I-485J: Still updatedAt: 2026-05-15, closed: false, only IAF event

Notes:

**•**	No silent updates between biometrics and today — 83 days of total silence  
**•**	Daughter’s EAD came before my own EAD (still pending)  
**•**	Medical (I-693) submitted concurrently with I-485  
**•**	Always maintained valid status, no violations, work authorized throughout

Based on those who’ve tracked their backend API closely — has anyone seen a similar pattern where the ghost update appeared on I-485 first, while I-485J was still silent? How long after the ghost update did your I-485J close and approval follow? Any insights appreciated! 🙏

Good luck to everyone still waiting!

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u/benjaminbarker17 — 8 days ago

Eb3 unskilled any bans for Bangladeshis living in the us?

Iv been hearing and iv seen an article that says theres been a pause for 70 countries. I am an f1 student and I was wondering if I can still file and apply

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u/Clear-Letter-5294 — 10 days ago

Perm approval timeline

My employer filed my perm with priority date as 07/25/2026, I see in permupdate that chances are my perm could be approved by Jan 2027, how the processing has been for you because last time checked it showed analyst review could take 17 months now is around 12 months. Are we expected to drop the analyst review down to maybe 6-7 months.

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u/Mindless-Cod5306 — 14 days ago