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Have EV stations set prices to make the cost per mile roughly equal to the cpm for an ICE?

I have been charging at home, paying 16 cents per kWh to my electric coop. We took our first road trip this week and paid 60 cents on the NJ turnpike. I expected the cost to be way higher than at home, but just doing some rough math, it makes the cost per mile roughly the same as it is for an ICE. Was this just a coincidence, or do EV charging stations roughly tie their price to averages for EV and ICE vehicles to equate the cost per mile?

I know the common driving variables (traffic, road conditions) impact ICE and EV’s differently, and cars aren’t all equally efficient. But the numbers were so close. It made me wonder…

Here was our breakdown: I got 33 kWh for $19.85. I got 4.3 miles per kWh on that charge, so I got 142 miles for $19.85, which is a cost per mile of 14 cents.

Our ICE car (Tucson) gets about 33 MPG on the highway in similar conditions (pouring rain, 55-60 MPH) Gas was $4.42/gal yesterday on the turnpike, which would have made the cost per mile 13.3 cents.

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u/Giniger4846 — 12 days ago
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Got bored of my EV sounding like a fridge on wheels, so I made it run BeamNG sound mods.

u/apinstein — 11 days ago

Why "Range Anxiety" is actually just "Percentage Anxiety" (and how Rory Sutherland cracked the psychology)

We see it constantly in mainstream commentary: critics claiming EV batteries need double or triple their current range before they are practical. But behavioural economist Rory Sutherland recently pointed out something fascinating about how our brains process battery levels versus actual driving range.

​The problem is not engineering; it is psychology.

​We have been conditioned by smartphones to view a 15% battery level as a red-alert crisis. When an EV dashboard displays 15%, our instinct triggers the exact same panic.

​However, distance changes the entire equation:

\- ​5% on a high-capacity long-range battery might still leave you with 40 km of range—more than enough to comfortably reach the nearest fast charger or home. Yet seeing "5%" triggers instant panic.

\- ​50% on a small 200 km city battery leaves you with 100 km, which feels totally safe simply because 50% sounds like a big cushion.

​When you translate state-of-charge into actual kilometres, the anxiety vanishes.

​A standard petrol or diesel dual-cab utility or sedan typically gets 600 km to 700 km out of a tank in real-world driving. Many modern EVs easily cover 400 km to 500 km on a single charge. Very few Australian drivers cover more than 50 km per day for standard commutes. The physical capability is already there; the barrier is purely a psychological blockage.

​Engineers are working around the clock to squeeze more miles out of battery chemistry to solve a problem that is largely down to display design.

​The next time a mate brings up range anxiety as a reason not to consider an EV, ask them a simple question: Are you worried about the kilometres left on the dashboard, or are you just afraid of a low percentage number?

​Once you switch the display settings from percentage to distance, the anxiety vanishes.

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u/barrel-boy — 12 days ago
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Who qualifies?

Anyone who held $CYDY during the class period and suffered losses from the alleged misrepresentations about leronlimab's effectiveness for HIV and COVID-19.

Can I still apply?

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If you were damaged by this don't forget to check your eligibility. GL!

u/JuniorCharge4571 — 13 days ago
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Help! Octopus Electric Car Work Scheme

I am currently driving a diesel from Huddersfield to Bradford every day for work. My job offers the Octopus Electric Car Scheme and I'm definitely going to do it but have no idea which car to go for. Can anyone help? I don't want to spend more than £400 a month and so far my choices are : Jaecoo E5 Luxury, Toyota C-HR+ Design, Omada E5 and the MG Mg4 Urban.

Gemini is saying Toyota by a mile (it also comes out most expensive at £408 a month). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. There are loads of other cars to choose from that aren't too expensive but they seem to have low mileage range.

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u/BlueToffeeAJ — 11 days ago
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Day 1 of a 90-day EV deep-dive — the one stat that explains almost everything

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Starting a series breaking down the EV economy from scratch. Kicking off with a number that surprised me when I first learned it:

A petrol engine only converts about 20-30% of the fuel's energy into actually moving the car — the rest becomes heat. An EV's motor converts roughly 85-90% of its electrical energy into motion.

This efficiency gap is basically the root cause of everything else in this transition — lower running costs, different supply chains, different companies winning and losing.

Planning to go sector by sector over the next few months (battery supply chain, charging infra, policy, investing angle, and what happens if adoption slows). Would love this community's input on what's worth digging into deeper.

u/Aykkdekm09 — 13 days ago
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Ik heb WattMate gemaakt om de EV-statistieken bij te houden die ik daadwerkelijk wilde zien

Hoi allemaal,

Ik ben de persoon achter WattMate en dit is het officiële account van de app. Bedankt aan de moderators dat ik WattMate hier mag delen en om eerlijke feedback mag vragen.

Toen ik nog in ICE-auto's reed, gebruikte ik Spritmonitor, CarSpending, Drivvo en een paar andere apps. Ze werkten heel goed voor het bijhouden van die auto's.

Nadat ik overstapte op een EV, wilde ik andere dingen bijhouden: verbruik in de praktijk, geschatte bruikbare accucapaciteit, actieradius in de praktijk, laadverlies en enkele andere EV-specifieke statistieken. Geen van de apps bood helemaal wat ik zocht.

Waar ik me het meest aan ergerde, was dat ik alles handmatig moest invoeren. De informatie stond verspreid over het dashboard van de auto, het scherm van de laadpaal en de laadapp. Na elke laadsessie moest ik alles in een formulier overnemen.

Omdat ik degene ben die de app maakt, besloot ik dat probleem voor mezelf op te lossen 😉. Ik heb Fill from Photos aan WattMate toegevoegd. Je voegt foto's toe van het dashboard van de auto of de laadpaal, of een screenshot uit je laadapp. AI leest wat er zichtbaar is en vult de laadsessie voor je in. Je controleert en corrigeert alles nog voordat je opslaat.

WattMate heeft een betaald Premium-abonnement, met een beperkte gratis versie om de app uit te proberen. De gratis versie omvat één voertuig, maximaal 15 laadsessies en 10 sessies met Fill from Photos. Met Premium vervallen die limieten.

Op dit moment richt WattMate zich op laadsessies. Het bijhouden van andere voertuigkosten staat al op de roadmap.

Ik hoor graag wat jullie ervan vinden, goed of slecht. Als iets nuttig, overbodig of verwarrend klinkt, of als er iets ontbreekt, zeg het dan zoals het is. Suggesties voor functies zijn ook welkom.

Waar ik vooral benieuwd naar ben, is Fill from Photos. Klinkt dat als iets wat jullie daadwerkelijk zouden gebruiken?

Links voor context:

iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wattmate/id6760948697

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zorvalth.wattmate

u/WattMateApp — 11 days ago

Model 3 vs i4 vs Audi GT?

Just curious if anyone has made the switch from one to another. I’ve had a model 3 in the past and loved it. I’ve been looking to get another EV and have my eyes on these 3 options.

Model 3 RWD (although I just found out the sound system upgrade is only in AWD so I might go for that or performance)
I4 edrive40
Audi just cause it’s definitely the sexiest of them all but havnt dug too deep into them

I drove the i4 and it’s nice, the interior definitely blows the model 3 out the water. I think the 3 was actually more fun of a drive tbh. The screen blacked out on the bmw while I was testing the sound system, was not a good look, the salesman was like “yeah that happens sometimes” never had any issues with the 3 in contrast.

Anyway just curious to hear anyone’s experience moving from one platform to another. I’m someone who sticks with a car for a long time, hoping to get 10 years out of whatever I choose.

I feel like the 3 can make it that long without major issues, has anyone had the bmw or Audi for a few years without major incidents?

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u/MadDiscipline — 11 days ago

I just got my E Transit today...

I have a 30amp outlet from back feeding a generator 15 years ago.. Today I hooked up a Grizzi Charger to that outlet and charged the E Transit and all seems to go well . It started at 84 miles and after 3 hours was at 114.

Should I bother with upgrading to 50 amp, or will this 30 amp be fine if I charge from 7pm to 7am?

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u/WPBguy44 — 11 days ago
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Beta testers wanted: I built a range app for the Sierra EV / Silverado EV screen that actually learns your truck.

You know that range number on the dash that swings 40 miles the second you hit a hill or a cold morning? I got tired of guessing, so I built something better.

EV Control Center is an Android Automotive app that runs right on the truck's own center screen, and it gets smarter with every mile you drive. I'm opening a small beta for Ultium owners and I'd love for you to be part of it.

A range number you can finally trust
It learns from your drives. After every drive it compares what the battery really used against what it predicted, then tunes itself to your truck: efficiency at each speed, the cost of climbing, what regen gives back downhill, and how much climate and electronics draw at each outside temperature. After about 30 miles it switches over to what it learned.

It knows the terrain. A run up the mountain and a cruise across the flats are never averaged into one meaningless number.

It knows how you drive. The baseline comes from your last 300 miles, weighted toward recent driving. Highway habits, a heavy right foot or a mostly-city week all show up.

Real roads, not a circle. The map shades where you can actually reach by road, hills included (powered by HERE). View it as One way, True round trip (going up costs more than coming down), or To empty. A compass rose shows which direction takes you farthest and which is shortest, like downhill toward Phoenix vs. up toward Flagstaff.

Check the route before you leave. Tap a destination or charger and see miles and kWh each way, battery % on arrival and back home, and headwind or tailwind. You get a plain verdict: make it there and back, charge first, or charge on the way, with a DC fast charger suggested if you're short.

Your reserve, your call. Pick your own buffer (default 20%). GM's number sits right beside ours so you can compare.

Towing mode. Enter a trailer weight and the range adjusts. Towing drives stay out of your normal average.

It shows its homework. The Energy Lab screen reveals what it learned (speed curve, hills, climate) and how far off each past prediction was. Judge for yourself whether to trust it.

And that's just the start

Live energy: power in/out with a smooth 5/15/60-minute graph, regen recovered, accessory load, and efficiency over the last ¼ mi, 1 mi and 5 mi.

Trips and charging history: every drive and charge recorded automatically, with maps colored by efficiency, charge curves you can scrub through, and day, week and month summaries.

Driving feedback: a G-meter, an eco-driving score per drive, and counts of hard acceleration, braking and cornering.

Chargers on the map, with whether you can reach each one by road.

Diagnostics in plain English: what your truck exposes to apps, what GM locks, and why.

Built for the truck: works on both the portrait Sierra and landscape Silverado screens, with big touch targets. While driving, it only hides what the truck itself restricts.

Private by design: your trips, location and data stay on the truck. No analytics, no ads. Online features (weather, road reach) stay off until you turn them on.

Built-in feedback button: see something off, want a feature, or hit a bug? Tap the feedback button inside the app and it goes straight to me. No forms, no forums, no waiting. Your input shapes what gets built next.

The honest fine print
It's a personal project, not affiliated with GM. It only reads vehicle data and never changes a setting.

GM keeps some data locked away from third-party apps (odometer, tire pressure, HVAC and cameras), so those aren't in it.

I test it daily on a Sierra EV Denali. Silverado EV and other Ultium trucks should work, and that's exactly why I need you.

It's distributed through Google Play internal testing, so you'll need the Google account you're signed in with on the truck.

How to join
Fill out this short form: https://forms.gle/JSG9Bk4u1NoF7wBv6

I'll add you to the tester list.
Install it from the truck's Play Store (search com.amueller.evcontrol).

Spots are limited, so I'm keeping this group small. I'm happy to answer questions in the comments, especially from anyone who's done a long mountain trip and wants to compare notes on range.

u/Elegant-Foot-8349 — 13 days ago
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Day 2 of my EV series — the battery pack is basically thousands of tiny batteries, not one big one

Following up on yesterday's post about EV efficiency. Today's building block: the battery itself.

Most people (including me, before I looked into this properly) picture an EV battery as one massive block. It's actually thousands of individual cells — similar in basic concept to the AA batteries in a TV remote, just engineered very differently — all wired together into a pack.

Why this matters: almost every major story in the EV industry (cost, supply chain risk, which companies win) comes back to this pack — what's inside the cells, who makes them, and how efficiently.

Tomorrow's post goes into what's actually inside those cells (lithium, cobalt, nickel) and why a couple of countries dominate that supply chain. Following up here as the series continues.

u/Aykkdekm09 — 12 days ago