r/FRT_World

Hadn’t seen anyone post about it here, they unfortunately won’t ship to my state when other retailers will ( it’s a grey area ) so hoping someone else will copy the design

Is this gun frt capable? If so which frt?

anyone else had problems tuning their broad river tactical SD? I’ve got the carbine buffer, yellow spring and an arc fire. a lot of nose diving into the chamber. struggles to frt more than a couple rounds at a time. runs great with hot defensive ammo but can’t get it to run on range 115gr 124gr and even full house 124gr nato. I also tried an RB and an atrius frs. FRS didn’t run at all. RB behaved a lot like the arc fire that’s in it now.

I’ve seen a lot of posts that almost answer my question but not exactly so I’m finally posting instead of just reading.

I want to get an FRT or super safety for a PSA 5.56 AR15 with a 16” barrel, in either this or something similar:

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-15-lightweight-hex-m-lok-classic-rifle.html

What matters:

-reliability

-longevity

-ease of repair/replacement

-making no or only minimal permanent modifications to gun (changing out parts is fine but I’d prefer avoiding shaving/dremeling anything)

What doesn’t matter:

-price

-the form of the selector (what I mean is some people say a push button switches between modes way too easily so a 3-position selector is better but that doesn’t matter to me, I mainly want it to function well & for a long time)

-how you feel about a company (I’ve heard all kinds of things about Rare Breed & Arizona Regulator, I only care about the product, not the history, politics, or personnel, unless we’re taking about things that affect the product like customer service)

Hello everyone! Hope all is well. With the explosive increase in popularity of FRTs and FRSs, do you think manufacturers in mass will start offering their future firearms with proprietary ones installed? One Horse already has an AR15 that sells with a three position FRT installed from factory and is covered under warranty. Do you think other, bigger firearms manufacturers will follow suit? I personally think it would be interesting to see. What do you think the future of these devices is going to look like?

I got a replacement trigger from the triggered company and it won’t fire in enhanced mode anymore, it worked with the one I first bought. The issue was it was fire binary in semi. I’m trying to trouble shoot and was wondering if I’m supposed to be able to dry fire without the upper on with this trigger system? It ran fine in enhanced with the first trigger system I had, nothing has changed on my rifle.

Just wanted to say I tried my tx22 with the titan works precision frt and it just jams no matter what ammo I use. I've polished everything you should. I reverted to stock disconnecter and it shoots EVERYTHING now no problem. I have 2 of them from them and didn't bother trying the other. Anyone know what else to do. Huxwrx 22ti suppressor on it too

Following up on several earlier posts I am still having issues with my AS Designs 3 position trigger.

I have tried the following combinations

16" mid length BA and Tool Craft upper

10.5" carbine length PSA beater

Costa lower

Poverty Pony lower

A Carbine spring

Blue spring

Carbine, H2 & H3 buffer

Suppressed and unsuppressed.

The rifles will cycle in semi. They work with dryfire in FRT mode. They do not work with generic brass case ammo that I have on hand. The rifle will cycle but will not reset the trigger no matter how light I hold it in FRT mode.

I bought my first FRT (Atrius) over a year ago and each range trip Ive tried a different combo with no luck. Im out of ideas. The guns dont need more buffer. I should have been in the window of trouble shooting months ago. Between two lowers and two uppers with all of this, something is wrong and it isnt going to be fixed by throwing more money at the issue.

If purchasing a new TX22, please test your TX22 with a variety of ammo before modification. If the TX22 is not functioning correctly, return or exchange for a functioning pistol.

If aquiring a used or gift TX22, remove and inspect the bottom of the slide. Check to make sure the plastic striker housing is in good condition. Make sure there is not a gouge cutting through the plastic from the striker block to the impact insert from a badly designed FRT. This is a common reason these guns are sold or passed on.

When Installing the Odd Mfg v7 FRT or Rate Reducer, first make sure the pistol is functioning correctly. Clean and lube the pistol as directed. Apply lubricant to the FRT, striker block and striker housing. Our stainless steel FRT is deburred and polished. It dose not need any modification before installation.

Our v4 FRT design reduces wear by gently rounding over the OEM plastic corner of the striker block less than any design we tested. Currently, we have about 15K rounds on our first TX22 OEM striker block with less wear than the OEM disconnector. We test out products with OEM parts. We find stock pistols to be the most reliable. We may not be able to help people with TX22s with after-market parts as there is too many variables. We will ask for the pistols to be returned to stock form before making recommendations.

Ammo recommendations:

A stock TX22 can run many types of ammo without a problem. A TX22 with a FRT can function with a wide variety of ammo. The rate of fire “ROF” of a TX22 with a FRT can be 1950+ rounds per minute, RPM. Different power ammo produces more or less ROF.

Using a suppressor and FRT together, increases the ROF to speeds beyond the magazine’s ability to feed cartridges and strikers ability to reset. This will be observed as a light primer strike on a chambered, unfired cartridge or failure to feed.

Many options exist to slow down the ROF. The TX22 TORO models allow heavy optics, weight bar or Rate Reducer a.k.a a weighted back plate. The non-TOROs have fewer ways to add weight. They most often need to add weight with heavy back plate or “Rate Reducer” to slow the ROF. Too much weight can reduce reliability. The slower the ROF, the less the reliability. This is why a balance must be created between ROF and reliability with weight and ammo choice. We found that 1850 RPM is the most reliable. Odd Mfg prefers to add weight to the slide with the use of a weighted block mounted to the TX22 slide. We consider our Rate Reducer to be the most cost, time and ammo efficient solution.

We recommend high velocity 1200+ FPS 40 gr RN 22LR ammo. CCI MM 40 gr RN is what we use. HV ammo is still subsonic and the extra power helps the low power 22LR ammo reset the striker.

How to shoot a TX22 with a FRT.

Forced rest triggers need power to push the trigger forward for a trigger reset. There is less power in the 22LR cartridge to reset the trigger than most ammo. USE LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE. Allow the trigger and striker to reset. FRTs are not machine guns. Death gripping the trigger will force the FRT upward into the striker housing, slowing or stopping the slide, preventing reset.

Suppressors and FRT together:

22LR Suppressors can vary in dimensions and weight and affect balance and reliability. We have tested our Rate Reducer for 1oz -7oz suppressors. As suppressors are used, the weight of the suppressor increases with lead and carbon. Every 1000 rounds adds another 1 oz - 1.2 oz of carbon/lead, depending on ammo. Plated ammo reduces the lead fowling in barrels and suppressors. Our 1.4oz Odd Mfg Rate Reducer and V7 FRT works with optics between .44 oz – 1.2 oz.

We have tested our Odd Mfg v7 FRT and Rate Reducer combo and can help you determine the combinations that work for your TX22 model and accessories. All research was conducted on stock TX22s. We have little testing conducted with after-market accessories. Contact us to determine the exact balanced options to make your TX22 run.

Cleaning suppressors for optimal use with a FRT:

Because the TX22 requires suppressors to fall into a weight range of 1 oz- 7oz for reliability, suppressors should be cleaned frequently to function on the individual TX22 models. Every 1000 rounds add 1 oz - 1.3 oz of lead depending on bullet type. Sonic cleaners and all firearm solvents do not remove lead.

New suppressor cleaners are available now that dissolve lead. Suppressor cleaners should be picked based on the suppressor design, finish and materials. Some cleaners may dissolve some metals. Some cleaners work faster with less effort. It is good to research what works best for a specific suppressor.

A sign suppressors getting too heavy is a decrease of reliability. If a fired case is left in the chamber or caught between the chamber and slide, they suppressor or slide is too heavy. A sign of a slide or suppressor being too light is an unfired bullet in the chamber with light striker mark on the rim or no striker mark.

Recommendations for a TX22 suppressor:

We recommend a light 4 oz, all Ti, “click-together” (tube protected) baffles for the TX22. The weigh helps the pistol to run loner between cleanings. Ti baffle material is easily cleaned in many suppress cleaning methods. If the tube is shielded from the lead, only the baffles need exposure to the suppressor cleaner or methods.

We really like the Otter Creek Labs Ti.

Other factors that decrease reliability of a FRT with suppressor:

We have discovered other factors affect the reliability of FRTs and suppressors combinations on the TX22 with the same variables. The amount of play of the barrel to the central block can vary from pistol to pistol. It seems the amount of movement between these two parts can affect the rhythm and function. Because of these variation between the same pistols, combination that work for some guns may not work with others.

Some people find that they do not need weight with a FRTs. Light suppressors or flow-through designs work initially A 4oz suppressor may not need a Rate Reducer. Eventually these suppressors will fill with lead and need weight added to the slide. Adding weight can make these suppressors more reliable or more reliable for a longer period before cleaning.

Loading the TX22 magazines:

Many people report reliability issues with TX22 magazines. The TX22 has issues with rimfire ammo feeding in the magazine at high ROFs because of the staggering and tapper design of the magazines. Some people purchase after-market followers, stretch the springs, use dry lubricant or polish the feed ramp to improve feeding. We found loading the mags correctly is the most economic and beneficial solution. It's important the cartridges are not dropped in with the follower completely retracted. They need to be loaded one after another, like a 9mm single feed, double stacked magazine. Tapping the back of the top of a loaded mag before insertion into the grip helps the first round to feed and aligns the stacked rimfire cartridges.

While some people can load magazines successfully by hand, many users report feeding issues. Using of the Taurus loader can help align the stacked rimfire cartridges.

The McFadden Lighting Loader is an after-market universal loader with many adapters for different 22LR magazines. It is good at stacking the magazines correctly and fast. Be gentle with their loaders and adapters as they are delicate. People are amazed at how fast the McFadden loader is at loading magazines. They sell one when someone watches me load with it at the range.

Disclaimer:

This information is not collected from the internet. It is the conclusion of our experience and testing. It is posted here to help those who want it. Feel free to disagree.

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