Happy 4th everyone!
Get out there and make some freedom noise with those TX22s! Cans off. Let them roar for our patriots.
Get out there and make some freedom noise with those TX22s! Cans off. Let them roar for our patriots.
If purchasing a new TX22, please test your TX22 with a variety of ammo before modification. If the TX22 is not functioning correctly, return or exchange for a functioning pistol.
If aquiring a used or gift TX22, remove and inspect the bottom of the slide. Check to make sure the plastic striker housing is in good condition. Make sure there is not a gouge cutting through the plastic from the striker block to the impact insert from a badly designed FRT. This is a common reason these guns are sold or passed on.
When Installing the Odd Mfg v7 FRT or Rate Reducer, first make sure the pistol is functioning correctly. Clean and lube the pistol as directed. Apply lubricant to the FRT, striker block and striker housing. Our stainless steel FRT is deburred and polished. It dose not need any modification before installation.
Our v4 FRT design reduces wear by gently rounding over the OEM plastic corner of the striker block less than any design we tested. Currently, we have about 15K rounds on our first TX22 OEM striker block with less wear than the OEM disconnector. We test out products with OEM parts. We find stock pistols to be the most reliable. We may not be able to help people with TX22s with after-market parts as there is too many variables. We will ask for the pistols to be returned to stock form before making recommendations.
Ammo recommendations:
A stock TX22 can run many types of ammo without a problem. A TX22 with a FRT can function with a wide variety of ammo. The rate of fire “ROF” of a TX22 with a FRT can be 1950+ rounds per minute, RPM. Different power ammo produces more or less ROF.
Using a suppressor and FRT together, increases the ROF to speeds beyond the magazine’s ability to feed cartridges and strikers ability to reset. This will be observed as a light primer strike on a chambered, unfired cartridge or failure to feed.
Many options exist to slow down the ROF. The TX22 TORO models allow heavy optics, weight bar or Rate Reducer a.k.a a weighted back plate. The non-TOROs have fewer ways to add weight. They most often need to add weight with heavy back plate or “Rate Reducer” to slow the ROF. Too much weight can reduce reliability. The slower the ROF, the less the reliability. This is why a balance must be created between ROF and reliability with weight and ammo choice. We found that 1850 RPM is the most reliable. Odd Mfg prefers to add weight to the slide with the use of a weighted block mounted to the TX22 slide. We consider our Rate Reducer to be the most cost, time and ammo efficient solution.
We recommend high velocity 1200+ FPS 40 gr RN 22LR ammo. CCI MM 40 gr RN is what we use. HV ammo is still subsonic and the extra power helps the low power 22LR ammo reset the striker.
How to shoot a TX22 with a FRT.
Forced rest triggers need power to push the trigger forward for a trigger reset. There is less power in the 22LR cartridge to reset the trigger than most ammo. USE LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE. Allow the trigger and striker to reset. FRTs are not machine guns. Death gripping the trigger will force the FRT upward into the striker housing, slowing or stopping the slide, preventing reset.
Suppressors and FRT together:
22LR Suppressors can vary in dimensions and weight and affect balance and reliability. We have tested our Rate Reducer for 1oz -7oz suppressors. As suppressors are used, the weight of the suppressor increases with lead and carbon. Every 1000 rounds adds another 1 oz - 1.2 oz of carbon/lead, depending on ammo. Plated ammo reduces the lead fowling in barrels and suppressors. Our 1.4oz Odd Mfg Rate Reducer and V7 FRT works with optics between .44 oz – 1.2 oz.
We have tested our Odd Mfg v7 FRT and Rate Reducer combo and can help you determine the combinations that work for your TX22 model and accessories. All research was conducted on stock TX22s. We have little testing conducted with after-market accessories. Contact us to determine the exact balanced options to make your TX22 run.
Cleaning suppressors for optimal use with a FRT:
Because the TX22 requires suppressors to fall into a weight range of 1 oz- 7oz for reliability, suppressors should be cleaned frequently to function on the individual TX22 models. Every 1000 rounds add 1 oz - 1.3 oz of lead depending on bullet type. Sonic cleaners and all firearm solvents do not remove lead.
New suppressor cleaners are available now that dissolve lead. Suppressor cleaners should be picked based on the suppressor design, finish and materials. Some cleaners may dissolve some metals. Some cleaners work faster with less effort. It is good to research what works best for a specific suppressor.
A sign suppressors getting too heavy is a decrease of reliability. If a fired case is left in the chamber or caught between the chamber and slide, they suppressor or slide is too heavy. A sign of a slide or suppressor being too light is an unfired bullet in the chamber with light striker mark on the rim or no striker mark.
Recommendations for a TX22 suppressor:
We recommend a light 4 oz, all Ti, “click-together” (tube protected) baffles for the TX22. The weigh helps the pistol to run loner between cleanings. Ti baffle material is easily cleaned in many suppress cleaning methods. If the tube is shielded from the lead, only the baffles need exposure to the suppressor cleaner or methods.
We really like the Otter Creek Labs Ti.
Other factors that decrease reliability of a FRT with suppressor:
We have discovered other factors affect the reliability of FRTs and suppressors combinations on the TX22 with the same variables. The amount of play of the barrel to the central block can vary from pistol to pistol. It seems the amount of movement between these two parts can affect the rhythm and function. Because of these variation between the same pistols, combination that work for some guns may not work with others.
Some people find that they do not need weight with a FRTs. Light suppressors or flow-through designs work initially A 4oz suppressor may not need a Rate Reducer. Eventually these suppressors will fill with lead and need weight added to the slide. Adding weight can make these suppressors more reliable or more reliable for a longer period before cleaning.
Loading the TX22 magazines:
Many people report reliability issues with TX22 magazines. The TX22 has issues with rimfire ammo feeding in the magazine at high ROFs because of the staggering and tapper design of the magazines. Some people purchase after-market followers, stretch the springs, use dry lubricant or polish the feed ramp to improve feeding. We found loading the mags correctly is the most economic and beneficial solution. It's important the cartridges are not dropped in with the follower completely retracted. They need to be loaded one after another, like a 9mm single feed, double stacked magazine. Tapping the back of the top of a loaded mag before insertion into the grip helps the first round to feed and aligns the stacked rimfire cartridges.
While some people can load magazines successfully by hand, many users report feeding issues. Using of the Taurus loader can help align the stacked rimfire cartridges.
The McFadden Lighting Loader is an after-market universal loader with many adapters for different 22LR magazines. It is good at stacking the magazines correctly and fast. Be gentle with their loaders and adapters as they are delicate. People are amazed at how fast the McFadden loader is at loading magazines. They sell one when someone watches me load with it at the range.
Disclaimer:
This information is not collected from the internet. It is the conclusion of our experience and testing. It is posted here to help those who want it. Feel free to disagree.
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New sliding weight in the carrier for your AR FRT of choice. Can be used without H3 buffer. The ARC v2 runs at 724 RPM.
We acquired a Gen 2 TX22 Competition this weekend. We tested our FRT and suppressor collection.
I can definitively say that the Competition works well with our v7 FRT. It works great with a suppressor but without a FRT. The Comp does not work reliably with a our FRT, suppressor and current Rate Reducer.
We will start experimenting to see what weight Rate Reducer is the most reliable for a suppressed FRT.
I preset to you all, The Howard Brothers.
Over the last couple of months people have reported conflicting accounts of the functionality of the OCL Ti suppressor on the TX22, with and without a FRT. We (Odd Mfg) tested the OCL Ti with our v7 FRT and our Rate Reducer.
Some report the suppressor works with a FRT and some say not. The OCL Ti is a nice light suppressor weighing in at 3.85 oz new so it should function without a rate reducer.
This morning we tested the OCL Ti with 3 models of the TX22, a 4.6" Gen 2 toro w/ 1 oz optic, a 4.6 Gen 2 non-toro and a Gen 2 Compact. We ran a couple of hundred rounds of CCI MM 40 gr RN and CCI Standard Velocity each.
The Compact worked well with HV and SV but had a few incidents of the striker fail without the Rate Reducer on the SV. It ran flawlessly with HV ammo and the Rate Reducer.
The Gen 2 toro and non-toro needed the HV 40 gr ammo and the rate reducer to function reliably.
I like the new suppressor but it gets hot faster than my SS suppressor but it also cools faster too. Especially when it's throw it in the creek between 22 rd mags. 😄
Surprise surprise. We determined that a rate reducer is needed for reliability when using light suppressors with a FRT. For those reporting not needing a rate reducer with a FRT, don't brag. You're lucky.
As always, use 1250+ fps RN ammo and use LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE.