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When we first tested the TX22 Competition model, we tried it with our v7 FRT and 1.4 oz KISS Rate Reducer to discover that the heavier 22LR SS suppressors 6-7.2 oz suppressors were not as reliable as the other TX22 models. The Competition has a heavier slide, barrel and recoil assembly than the other models and requires more weight than our rate reducer offers to use the heavier 22LR suppressors.

Recently, we tested the Competition again with the lighter 3-4 oz Ti suppressors to find much more reliable results.  As we know the TX22s can use most suppressors without a FRT. Add a FRT and the ROF goes to around 1950 RPM. Add a suppressor and a FRT together, the combination drives the ROF to 2200 RPM.  This ROF out runs the striker reset and mag feed rate.

I am happy to report after more testing, our v7 FRT and KISS Rate Reducers combined with 1200+ FPS 40 grain ammo work well with the TX22 Competition models.

Here’s the results:

Comp model + V7 FRT + Bare optic plate + CCI Mini Mag 40 gr RN ammo = Reliable

Comp model + v7 FRT + no optic plate + CCI Mini Mag 40 gr RN ammo = Reliable @ 1792 RPM

Comp model + v7 FRT + 1.4 oz RR + Bare optic plate + OCL Ti suppressor + CCI Mini Mag 40 gr RN ammo = Reliable @ 1843 RPM

Comp model + v7 FRT + 1.4 oz RR + Bare optic plate + CCI Mini Mag 40 gr RN ammo = Reliable

Comp model + v7 FRT + 1.4 oz RR + no optic plate + OCL Ti  suppressor + CCI Mini Mag 40 gr RN ammo = Reliable

No testing was done with an optic on the optic plate as my Comp optic plate is removed.

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There are a lot of new TX22 owners this week that have purchased FRTs and Rate Reducers. These guns are really wonderful if some very basic guidelines are followed. It may even help those who have guns that have non FRT function problems.

1. Test the TX22 before installing a FRT. Make sure if functions from the factory.
2. Clean and lube the pistol before going to the range, including the FRT and the striker block.
3. Be sure to load the magazines correctly. There is a reason Taurus included a mag loader. Better yet, invest in a McFadden LIghtnin' Grip Loader with TX22 mag adapter. It loads 22 rd mags correctly in 5 seconds. People are spending money on after market followers and feed ramp polishing when %98 of the solution is loading mags correctly. Yes it's a known issue with these high cap pistols.
4. Try the FRT before adding other after market parts. Only add one new part at a time to find what doesn't work. Then test.

5. USE LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE!

FRTs are not machine guns. Allow the trigger to reset. Using a death grip will slow or stop the slide and may damage the striker housing. When introducing the TX22 to new shooters, because they will want to shoot it, remind them to USE LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE. Problems and damage happen most with new shooters.

6. Use 1200+ FPS 40 grain ammo. Plated bullets reduce the lead left in the barrel and suppressor by %30.

7. Our Rate Reducer is designed to function with both the FRT + suppressors. If it work without the suppressor, awesome. But, it was designed with both and works best with both.

8. Our Rate Reducer is designed to work with suppressors up to 7 oz and then the lead needs to be removed with a specific lead removing solution that does not damage the suppressor materials. Patches, gun solvents, and sonic cleaners do not remove lead. Aluminum and painted parts should not go in a sonic cleaner. Our favorite TX22 specific is the Otter Creek Labs Ti. It's 3.8 oz and easy to take apart to get into every part to know it's clean.

9. Our rate reducer will be damaged by metal striker housings. Do not use our v7 FRT with a metal striker housing. They are designed to be used with the factory OEM plastic striker housings for the life time of the pistol. The damage created by metal striker housings is very unique and easily spotted.

For more helpful information about TX22 FRTs and suppressors, go to https://oddmfg.com/tx22-helpful-information/

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Matt Stromberg

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The Mask and The Sparrow are the most recommended suppressors for the TX22 I have seen on multiple forums. Here is the DL from a FRT and RR maker.

TX22s work with lots of different ammo. They work great with a FRT with lots of different ammo. They work great with a suppressor and lots of different ammo.

Then combining a FRT and suppressor on a TX22 gets problematic. The balance and rhythm are more critical. Even though the TX22 has a “fixed barrel” I would call it a “stationary” barrel because it’s not really fixed. There is movement and it does affect the reliability with a suppressed FRT in a TX22. Not always but most often, it needs more weight on the slide to function unless using a really light suppressor. But even then, a Rate Reducer or weight added to the slide can keep it running longer between the build-up of lead and suppressor cleaning.

Rate Reducers are dependent on balance of ammo, slide and suppressor weight. For Odd Mfg, we make a 1.4 oz RR. It works with 1200 + fps 40 grain ammo and suppressors under 7 oz. Every 1000 rds adds 1 oz of lead to a suppressor, more if the ammo is not plated. Cleaning lead out of suppressors to maintain the TX22 balance is a whole other discussion.

We do not recommend RRs without FRT and suppressor combo even though some people say different. Or research supports Taurus findings. Lighter slides and faster cycling has better reliability up to a point. Gen 1 slides have more weight so they were better for FRTs and suppressors, although not enough weight and options for adding wight to be completely reliable, but I don't think Taurus was testing FRTs.

The Sparrow and Mask are popular choices for the TX22 without a FRT. They are on the heavy side of 22 suppressors at 6-6.8 oz. With a FRT, more weight on the slide is needed. Our 1.4 or RR is not enough weight for the Mask. That combo requires 2.4 oz added to the slide and more frequent cleaning schedule. The way we do it is adding the 1.4 oz RR and a 1 oz optic. This drops the ROF to about 1750 RPM which is OK for reliability. On our graph of reliability, anything under 1700 RPM looses reliability.

Odd Mfg considered multiple designs for adjustable RRs in the beginning but one design philosophy won out, no moving parts or fasteners. Anything designed to come apart, will come apart, probably when least expected. We like K.I.S.S. principle.

What RR do you need? What ammo and suppressor do you want to use?

The Sparrow and Mask have been our favorite suppressors for most firearms of the past, especially the TX22 without a FRT.  With a FRT, they are not the best choice for a suppressor. They are too heavy and require a heavy RR. In our testing the more weight that is added to the slide, the slower it runs, less the reliability, between extreme variations.

There is evidence that a +2 recoil rod assembly, suppressors, FRT and hyper velocity ammo can take the place of a RR. Unfortunately, the cost of CCI Stingers is 1/3 more that CCI MM 40 gr. The ROF of the +2 recoil rod assembly, CCI Stingers, FRT and suppressor is in the mid 2100 ROF which is close to the failure of the striker and magazine. Stinger ammo leads to more wear and breakage as seen by the broken aluminum frames and poly slides that show up here and online with people who use hyper velocity ammo. We are thinking the CCI MM 40 gr combos at 1750 ROF leads us to believe that RRs are not going anywhere soon and probably a better choice wear control, cost and reliability.

We like the OCL Ti at 3.8oz. We can run a few thousand rounds with our RR before cleaning the suppressor. Stainless steel and Ti material are easily and effortlessly cleaned with The Dip. The Dip is toxic, and needs precautions with use and disposal, is destructive to aluminum and carbon steel, but is cheap and easy with SS and Ti.

Feel free to disagree or to offer your opinions. Any information is helpful to keeping out TX22s safe and fun. oddmfg.com

Ran very well. Not as much slop as the SS + BB SS Trip. Didn't need to add a BB shim with the Anderson lower.

9" barrel

CMMG dedicated upper

Standard SS FA weight

BB arc v2 trip

CCI MM 40gr

Get out there and make some freedom noise with those TX22s! Cans off. Let them roar for our patriots.

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If purchasing a new TX22, please test your TX22 with a variety of ammo before modification. If the TX22 is not functioning correctly, return or exchange for a functioning pistol.

If aquiring a used or gift TX22, remove and inspect the bottom of the slide. Check to make sure the plastic striker housing is in good condition. Make sure there is not a gouge cutting through the plastic from the striker block to the impact insert from a badly designed FRT. This is a common reason these guns are sold or passed on.

When Installing the Odd Mfg v7 FRT or Rate Reducer, first make sure the pistol is functioning correctly. Clean and lube the pistol as directed. Apply lubricant to the FRT, striker block and striker housing. Our stainless steel FRT is deburred and polished. It dose not need any modification before installation.

Our v4 FRT design reduces wear by gently rounding over the OEM plastic corner of the striker block less than any design we tested. Currently, we have about 15K rounds on our first TX22 OEM striker block with less wear than the OEM disconnector. We test out products with OEM parts. We find stock pistols to be the most reliable. We may not be able to help people with TX22s with after-market parts as there is too many variables. We will ask for the pistols to be returned to stock form before making recommendations.

Ammo recommendations:

A stock TX22 can run many types of ammo without a problem. A TX22 with a FRT can function with a wide variety of ammo. The rate of fire “ROF” of a TX22 with a FRT can be 1950+ rounds per minute, RPM. Different power ammo produces more or less ROF.

Using a suppressor and FRT together, increases the ROF to speeds beyond the magazine’s ability to feed cartridges and strikers ability to reset. This will be observed as a light primer strike on a chambered, unfired cartridge or failure to feed.

Many options exist to slow down the ROF. The TX22 TORO models allow heavy optics, weight bar or Rate Reducer a.k.a a weighted back plate. The non-TOROs have fewer ways to add weight. They most often need to add weight with heavy back plate or “Rate Reducer” to slow the ROF. Too much weight can reduce reliability. The slower the ROF, the less the reliability. This is why a balance must be created between ROF and reliability with weight and ammo choice. We found that 1850 RPM is the most reliable. Odd Mfg prefers to add weight to the slide with the use of a weighted block mounted to the TX22 slide. We consider our Rate Reducer to be the most cost, time and ammo efficient solution.

We recommend high velocity 1200+ FPS 40 gr RN 22LR ammo. CCI MM 40 gr RN is what we use. HV ammo is still subsonic and the extra power helps the low power 22LR ammo reset the striker.

How to shoot a TX22 with a FRT.

Forced rest triggers need power to push the trigger forward for a trigger reset. There is less power in the 22LR cartridge to reset the trigger than most ammo. USE LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE. Allow the trigger and striker to reset. FRTs are not machine guns. Death gripping the trigger will force the FRT upward into the striker housing, slowing or stopping the slide, preventing reset.

Suppressors and FRT together:

22LR Suppressors can vary in dimensions and weight and affect balance and reliability. We have tested our Rate Reducer for 1oz -7oz suppressors. As suppressors are used, the weight of the suppressor increases with lead and carbon. Every 1000 rounds adds another 1 oz - 1.2 oz of carbon/lead, depending on ammo. Plated ammo reduces the lead fowling in barrels and suppressors. Our 1.4oz Odd Mfg Rate Reducer and V7 FRT works with optics between .44 oz – 1.2 oz.

We have tested our Odd Mfg v7 FRT and Rate Reducer combo and can help you determine the combinations that work for your TX22 model and accessories. All research was conducted on stock TX22s. We have little testing conducted with after-market accessories. Contact us to determine the exact balanced options to make your TX22 run.

Cleaning suppressors for optimal use with a FRT:

Because the TX22 requires suppressors to fall into a weight range of 1 oz- 7oz for reliability, suppressors should be cleaned frequently to function on the individual TX22 models. Every 1000 rounds add 1 oz - 1.3 oz of lead depending on bullet type. Sonic cleaners and all firearm solvents do not remove lead.

New suppressor cleaners are available now that dissolve lead. Suppressor cleaners should be picked based on the suppressor design, finish and materials. Some cleaners may dissolve some metals. Some cleaners work faster with less effort. It is good to research what works best for a specific suppressor.

A sign suppressors getting too heavy is a decrease of reliability. If a fired case is left in the chamber or caught between the chamber and slide, they suppressor or slide is too heavy. A sign of a slide or suppressor being too light is an unfired bullet in the chamber with light striker mark on the rim or no striker mark.

Recommendations for a TX22 suppressor:

We recommend a light 4 oz, all Ti, “click-together” (tube protected) baffles for the TX22. The weigh helps the pistol to run loner between cleanings. Ti baffle material is easily cleaned in many suppress cleaning methods. If the tube is shielded from the lead, only the baffles need exposure to the suppressor cleaner or methods.

We really like the Otter Creek Labs Ti.

Other factors that decrease reliability of a FRT with suppressor:

We have discovered other factors affect the reliability of FRTs and suppressors combinations on the TX22 with the same variables. The amount of play of the barrel to the central block can vary from pistol to pistol. It seems the amount of movement between these two parts can affect the rhythm and function. Because of these variation between the same pistols, combination that work for some guns may not work with others.

Some people find that they do not need weight with a FRTs. Light suppressors or flow-through designs work initially A 4oz suppressor may not need a Rate Reducer. Eventually these suppressors will fill with lead and need weight added to the slide. Adding weight can make these suppressors more reliable or more reliable for a longer period before cleaning.

Loading the TX22 magazines:

Many people report reliability issues with TX22 magazines. The TX22 has issues with rimfire ammo feeding in the magazine at high ROFs because of the staggering and tapper design of the magazines. Some people purchase after-market followers, stretch the springs, use dry lubricant or polish the feed ramp to improve feeding. We found loading the mags correctly is the most economic and beneficial solution. It's important the cartridges are not dropped in with the follower completely retracted. They need to be loaded one after another, like a 9mm single feed, double stacked magazine. Tapping the back of the top of a loaded mag before insertion into the grip helps the first round to feed and aligns the stacked rimfire cartridges.

While some people can load magazines successfully by hand, many users report feeding issues. Using of the Taurus loader can help align the stacked rimfire cartridges.

The McFadden Lighting Loader is an after-market universal loader with many adapters for different 22LR magazines. It is good at stacking the magazines correctly and fast. Be gentle with their loaders and adapters as they are delicate. People are amazed at how fast the McFadden loader is at loading magazines. They sell one when someone watches me load with it at the range.

Disclaimer:

This information is not collected from the internet. It is the conclusion of our experience and testing. It is posted here to help those who want it. Feel free to disagree.

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New sliding weight in the carrier for your AR FRT of choice. Can be used without H3 buffer. The ARC v2 runs at 724 RPM.

We acquired a Gen 2 TX22 Competition this weekend. We tested our FRT and suppressor collection.

I can definitively say that the Competition works well with our v7 FRT. It works great with a suppressor but without a FRT. The Comp does not work reliably with a our FRT, suppressor and current Rate Reducer.

We will start experimenting to see what weight Rate Reducer is the most reliable for a suppressed FRT.

I preset to you all, The Howard Brothers.

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Over the last couple of months people have reported conflicting accounts of the functionality of the OCL Ti suppressor on the TX22, with and without a FRT. We (Odd Mfg) tested the OCL Ti with our v7 FRT and our Rate Reducer.

Some report the suppressor works with a FRT and some say not. The OCL Ti is a nice light suppressor weighing in at 3.85 oz new so it should function without a rate reducer.

This morning we tested the OCL Ti with 3 models of the TX22, a 4.6" Gen 2 toro w/ 1 oz optic, a 4.6 Gen 2 non-toro and a Gen 2 Compact. We ran a couple of hundred rounds of CCI MM 40 gr RN and CCI Standard Velocity each.

The Compact worked well with HV and SV but had a few incidents of the striker fail without the Rate Reducer on the SV. It ran flawlessly with HV ammo and the Rate Reducer.

The Gen 2 toro and non-toro needed the HV 40 gr ammo and the rate reducer to function reliably.

I like the new suppressor but it gets hot faster than my SS suppressor but it also cools faster too. Especially when it's throw it in the creek between 22 rd mags. 😄

Surprise surprise. We determined that a rate reducer is needed for reliability when using light suppressors with a FRT. For those reporting not needing a rate reducer with a FRT, don't brag. You're lucky.

As always, use 1250+ fps RN ammo and use LIGHT TRIGGER PRESSURE.