I scrolled Tiktok and noticed this kid, who’s barely old enough to drive, and his account already features him having a lambo and a place in Miami. How young are these guys getting? Does anyone believe these kids have these sports cars and a luxury penthouse from “ecom?”
I have just scanned through this group and at every post (I can't believe some of the things I've seen on here) the same question popped into my mind: WHY oh why do people not just go to therapy? There are so many modalities which are similar to coaching like sfbt and erp.
Why do people choose to go to gimmickers like these instead who are way much more expensive than therapy?
Hey everyone,
I’ve been seeing Hudson Cooper all over my feeds lately promising absolute riches, massive financial freedom, and flashing a lifestyle that looks straight out of a movie. His whole angle seems to be selling high-ticket courses that teach you how to make insane money online in a remarkably short amount of time.
Every ad he puts out makes some pretty massive claims about how "anyone can do it" if they just buy into his system.
But as we all know, when someone promises quick riches and pushes high-ticket sales coaching, the red flags start flying. I wanted to open up the floor to the community here:
I'm incredibly skeptical of anyone making these kinds of bold promises of overnight wealth. If you’ve had any personal experience with Hudson Cooper, his sales team, or his programs, please drop your honest feedback below.
Let’s get a real discussion going so people looking him up can find the truth before dropping thousands of dollars.
After I got scammed by Nik Setting for multiple five figures it turns out that I wasn't the only one. This kid is lying to his followers, faking his own and his client's results, is buying engagement on his posts and once he traps you in his F-tier course he blocks you and prevents you from refunding.
He's hiding his accounts in Dubai where jurisdiction is known to allow scam practices like his.
Making money via monetization upon accumulating enough followers or views on social media .
Thoughts ? Thanks!
He's popular and has helped a lot of people but he's also a good business man. So, how much is genuine and how much is clever? His marketing has become almost AI generic and predictable. At a recent seminar, so many people complained about the upselling sales pitch.
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How I went from an online guru ecosystem to reading charts on my own The mirror never lied to me
I heard three sentences on a stream I almost skipped.
“Don’t come here if you want signals. I don’t sell courses. I am not a recovery agent of losses you did on other people’s streams.”
A guy staring into a camera, saying that to nobody in particular. No pitch. No funnel link in the description. Just a line drawn in the sand.
I didn’t know it yet, but that was the moment everything before it stopped making sense.
Eighteen months earlier, I joined an online trading community built entirely on signals and courses.
Everyone there posted their wins after the fact. Green candles, arrows drawn back onto the chart pointing at an entry that was somehow always obvious in hindsight.
Never before it happened. Always after.
I bought signals off Telegram groups. I followed brokers who dressed up referral codes as advice. I paid for a course that promised a framework nobody else had access to.
I did all of it because everyone around me was doing it, and doing it looked like progress.
They were sold lies, lies and lies.
They thought following only this thing would make their dream come true. That they will live this lavish lifestyle of theirs in just a month.
That they will be able to travel the world, buy expensive looking watches, few expensive looking cars & whatever they dreamed of buying.
I was sold this lies too. And the results?
Eighteen months in, I could point at a support line on a chart. I couldn’t tell you why it mattered.
I was reading price the way you read a menu in a language you don’t speak: pointing at the picture, hoping the waiter brings you something decent.
A friend kept mentioning a chart poster online who went by Creator ‘X'. No course, no funnel, no chasing followers. Just charts and calls, timestamped, sitting there for anyone to check later.
I ignored him. Twice, over a couple of months. I already had my system, or what I thought was a system.
Then, on a slow evening, My life changed.
I opened the stream by accident.
Three sentences in, I felt something I hadn’t felt in a year and a half of paying people for confidence: someone telling me the truth about what he wasn’t going to sell me.
No signals meant I’d have to learn to see the move myself.
No courses meant there was nothing to buy my way out of the learning curve.
And no recovery agent meant my old losses stayed exactly where they belonged, on me, not on him.
That’s the part that stuck.
He wasn’t offering me anything. He was taking something away, the excuse that someone else’s certainty could replace my own.
So I locked in. Over 1,000 hours on charts since, stacked on everything before it.
That time went into learning to read what price is actually doing on its own terms, across timeframes, across assets, instead of memorizing patterns and hoping they’d repeat.
Somewhere in those hours I understood something I couldn’t have understood 18 months earlier: trading is a reflection of you. It’s a mirror.
Every time you lose control, the chart shows you exactly where.
Every time you borrow someone else’s conviction instead of building your own, the market finds that seam and pulls on it.
That’s why the framework I use is called Mirror Market Concepts. It says exactly what it does.
I still had work to do on the other side of that though.
Knowing the truth about a chart and saying it out loud to someone’s face turned out to be two different skills.
A friend of mine bought a stock that was already extended. I told him. He bought anyway. It fell 30-40%.
He bought again near the top of the market, this time on his dad’s broker’s advice. The market rolled over right after.
He came back a third time, into a stock that was already up 90% since listing. I told him the zone he was buying into didn’t make sense.
He said he’d hold it for a year, maybe two. Then he kept asking me the same question, over and over: is this the higher low?
I said “it can be.”
I said that because I couldn’t look at him and say what I actually saw. That he was buying into a level about to mirror its entire previous demand structure down. That he was, in plain words, fucked and done.
It bounced a little. Just enough to keep the hope alive. Then it fell 40-60%, mirroring that structure exactly like the chart said it would.
I’ve thought about that conversation more than almost any trade I’ve taken, because softening it was the easy, cowardly choice, and I made it anyway.
That’s the gap I’m done pretending doesn’t exist.
For months I wrote analysis and stayed in the observer’s seat, describing what a chart was doing without saying what I actually believed.
Safe. Careful. Chasing reach and hoping conviction would follow.
The stream I almost skipped didn’t work that way. Three sentences, no hedge in any of them.
So here’s where I’m at now.
I post the read before I know if I’m right. I post the review after, win or not, and I don’t delete the ones that go wrong.
I don’t have a signal, a course, or a shortcut through the 1,000+ hours to sell you.
What I’m actually building is people who don’t need me in six months. Strange business model, but it’s the only one I trust.
Freedom is not sold, it’s made. Same goes for the judgment that gets you there.
I am building independent market thinkers. Not dependency.
That’s the whole point of everything I post here.
I’ll help you escape this system.
~ Keyur
I’ll start off this post by saying hey Jordan and the https://www.aiacquisition.com team👋 because I know you’ll read this post and you or your minions will try to take it down.
Jordan Lee moved to Dubai a few years ago, where he rebranded his company from “Growth Partners” to “AI Acquisition” so he could continue targeting naive millennials and boomer business owners under a fresh name.
The move was no coincidence. He relocated the same year the UAE removed the requirement for many foreign business owners to give local Emiratis 51% ownership of their companies, allowing him to maintain full control while operating from a jurisdiction that offers significantly more distance from the customers he sells to, protecting him for any and all legal repercussions.
Like most scammers, Jordan sells a lifestyle and courses. He doesn’t have anything of value to offer, but has got extremely sophisticated with his scam. He is as profitable as he’s ever been and I’m shocked he’s been able to get away with this for so long.
I know we all need to be guided or have mentor at some point, but most "How to be successful" courses are just AI Generated guide that can be asked to any AI and get your answered.
What's your take?
Koi follow karta h Kya isko? Kisi ne aaj tak isko tips follow ko h Kya?
Hi everyone,
I am writing this post to alert everyone and seek your help to report a massive scam running under the name of Nishkarsh Sharma (YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@nishkarshsharmaa).
I am an aspiring e-commerce entrepreneur, and I trusted his fake promises and commitments. Before purchasing the course, I clearly told them that my English is weak and I might have difficulty understanding it. They falsely promised me: "Just try it. If you don't understand, we will refund your money." They also committed that after doing this course, I would easily achieve ₹10,000+ daily sales and earn lakhs of rupees within 2 months.
Relying on these big promises, I paid a huge amount of ₹50,000 for the course.
However, the entire course turned out to be in complex English, which I couldn't follow. When I realized I wasn't able to learn anything and requested a refund as promised, their real face came out:
They straightaway refused to refund my money.
When I repeatedly emailed them to request my hard-earned money back, instead of helping, they completely blocked my access to the course! Now, I have neither my ₹50,000 nor the course access. I am completely devastated and mentally stressed.
During their live online classes, I noticed that I am not alone. There were many other students in the chat constantly begging for refunds because they felt cheated too. This is a running pattern where they target innocent students, take huge amounts of money, and block them if they raise a voice.
I need your help:
Please help me report this channel and spread the word so no other middle-class student or aspiring entrepreneur loses their hard-earned money to this trap. If anyone knows how to take legal action or file a consumer forum complaint in India against such digital course scams, please guide me in the comments.
Thank you for your support!
#DropshippingScam #NishkarshSharma #ConsumerAwareness #EcomScamIndia #FraudAlert
There is a man online you have probably never heard of, and that is part of what makes him dangerous. He dresses in robes, calls himself a yogi, speaks in a fake guru cadence, sells “consecrated” objects, gives sexual advice to young followers, obsesses over virgin girls, and begs for money while performing holiness on YouTube.
He presents himself as a spiritual teacher one moment, then sprays fart spray in his own face for content the next. He speaks about enlightenment, then licks the floor in India for donations. He visually borrows from Hindu and yogic religion while making a mockery of the very traditions he uses to sell himself.
His name is Shiva Kailash Shambho. Before that, he was Yuri.
He was born in Ukraine, moved to Canada with his mother and younger brother, and now appears to rely heavily on his mother and donations from his YouTube followers. His public persona is not the product of a traditional spiritual life, a lineage, a serious apprenticeship, or deep study. It is the product of the internet: pick-up artist culture, right-wing sexual politics, Sadhguru videos, Discord drama, donation begging, and self-mythology.
During the pandemic, by his own account, he became obsessed with Sadhguru. From there, he reinvented himself. He put on robes and turbans, legally changed his name to Shiva Kailash Shambho, adopted a guru-like speaking style, and began presenting himself as a spiritual authority. That name was not given to him by Sadhguru. It was not an initiated name from Isha. It was a self-created legal identity, chosen by a man who wanted to become the character he had invented.
That gap between image and reality is the centre of the story. Shiva Kailash Shambho is not just another eccentric YouTuber. He is a case study in how spiritual aesthetics can be used to manufacture authority, attract vulnerable followers, and turn almost anything into a product: porn recovery, semen retention, private guidance, Mount Kailash, rudraksha beads, chakra activation, livestream drama, and access to himself.
The making of a guru costume
Shiva’s persona is built from borrowed symbols. He wears Hindu-style robes, Muslim-style robes, turbans, beads, and sacred-looking clothing. Some robes, by his own account, were bought from Amazon. The specific tradition seems less important than the effect: to appear holy, exotic, disciplined, and spiritually elevated.
The voice is part of the same construction. After becoming Shiva Kailash Shambho, he began speaking in a strange, affected cadence that sounds like a robotic imitation of Sadhguru. When challenged, he claimed his speech was based on Barack Obama, but that explanation does not match what is plainly audible. He does not sound like Obama. He sounds like a man copying the rhythm, pauses, and guru-like delivery of Sadhguru without the cultural context or self-awareness.
He also calls himself “the White Yogi,” telling people to search for him under that name. The phrase functions like a brand more than a title. It turns his race, his costume, and his borrowed spiritual imagery into a searchable identity.
The contradiction is obvious. He uses Hindu names, yogic language, sacred geography, and guru aesthetics, while admitting he lacks basic grounding in the tradition. He has admitted he had not read foundational Hindu texts such as the Bhagavad Gita, saying instead that he only listened to Sadhguru. His spiritual name was self-created. His authority was self-created. The whole persona was self-created.
He claims spiritual insight, yet his public output is dominated by donation appeals, semen retention content, sexual purity ideology, unstable livestreams, and internet drama.
Isha rejected the role he claimed
One of the clearest cracks in Shiva’s self-created authority happened at the Isha Yoga Center in India. Shiva tried to smuggle a knife into Isha and was banned for six months.
Isha also sent him an email personally stating that they did not want him to represent Isha and that he had no right to do so. Instead of treating that as a serious rebuke, he leaked the email online and turned the rejection into content. His own YouTube archive later included a video titled “BANNED FROM ISHA YOGA CENTER.”
That incident matters because Shiva’s entire persona depends on borrowed proximity to Sadhguru and Isha. He presents himself as if his connection to Sadhguru gives him spiritual status. Yet Isha itself told him he had no right to represent them. Rather than ending the act, he absorbed the rejection into the performance.
In a healthier person, being formally told not to represent a major spiritual organisation might cause humility. In Shiva’s case, it became another chapter in the myth.
Mount Kailash becomes marketing
Shiva later travelled to Mount Kailash, apparently funded by followers, including young people from his Discord community. Mount Kailash is sacred in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Bon. For millions of people, it is not a backdrop or brand asset. It is sacred geography.
Shiva used it to elevate himself.
He claimed that because he went to Mount Kailash, he gained spiritual powers. His evidence was that a bird landed on his head while he was there. An ordinary or ambiguous event became proof of special status. This is a familiar fake-guru move: take something random, wrap it in mystical language, and use it to imply divine confirmation.
His current website continues this pattern. Screenshots show Mount Kailash imagery used behind sales pages for products, courses, and paid access. A “Consecrated Rudraksha Mala” is advertised as “Consecrated with Kailash energy.” The pilgrimage becomes branding. The mountain becomes a logo. Sacred geography becomes part of the checkout page.
The business model
The financial side of Shiva’s persona is not incidental. It is central.
His website shows a “Quit porn, attain sexual mastery” course built around porn recovery, semen retention, sexual energy, and private guidance from Shiva. The course is framed as transformative spiritual work, but it is also a paid product built around masturbation, pornography, sexual control, and direct access to him.
The same website lists a “Consecrated Rudraksha Mala” for $70 plus $20 shipping, advertised as being “consecrated with Kailash energy.” It also offers a one-on-one call for $187 and a “Throat Chakra Activation” for $500. Earlier, Shiva had offered a $1,000 throat chakra clearing, claiming he could turn someone’s throat chakra blue.
Older Discord screenshots show the same sales pattern in a cruder form. In one message, he advertises “Mala $220 CAD,” “Spiritual Reading $100 CAD,” and “Spiritual Bead.” In another, he tells someone, “You should buy the rudraksha.” Then: “Buy.” Then again: “why don’t you buy the consecrated rudraksha?”
This is the marketplace behind the mysticism. Mount Kailash becomes a brand. Semen retention becomes a course. Porn recovery becomes paid guidance. A rudraksha mala becomes “Kailash energy.” A conversation becomes $187. A chakra becomes $500.
He has also promoted or sold mercury-containing spiritual items using coded language to avoid problems on YouTube, advertised Mount Kailash trips for over $5,000, pushed donation schemes for beehives and trees, and repeatedly asked followers to support him through livestream donations and super chats.
The pattern is not subtle. The guru persona creates authority. The authority creates products. The products create income.
From spiritual teacher to donation streamer
Over time, Shiva’s persona has become increasingly indistinguishable from streamer culture. He still wears the spiritual costume, but much of the content now revolves around attention, humiliation, spectacle, and donations.
He has offered to take his clothes off for money. He has eaten hot chips and weed edible gummies for content. He has licked the floor in India for donations. His members-only archive includes stunts such as eating extreme hot chips, eating sour candy, and spraying fart spray in his own face. One revealing title reads: “Shiva Sprays Fart Spray IN HIS FACE.”
This is not spiritual teaching. It is attention farming in robes.
He has also said he wants to become as big as Kai Cenat and IShowSpeed. A Discord screenshot captures the mentality perfectly: “Keep posting, make me famous.”
That sentence is more revealing than any spiritual biography on his website. The goal is not humility, service, discipline, or liberation. The goal is fame. The guru costume becomes one more route toward becoming a large internet personality.
The result is a strange hybrid: part Sadhguru imitation, part incel preacher, part Discord cult leader, part prank streamer, part donation beggar. His spirituality does not transcend internet culture. It is swallowed by it.
Threats, apologies, and narrative control
Shiva has made many apology videos over the years. He apologises, presents himself as humbled, promises growth, and then returns to the same patterns: offensive comments, inappropriate behaviour, donation begging, sexual purity preaching, drama, self-pity, and another reset.
His apologies do not appear to function as accountability. They function as brand maintenance.
Screenshots from Discord show how he responds to criticism and conflict. In one message, he writes: “You will never be able to make another youtube video again under any channel.” In another, he says: “copy and paste is not fair use, now i have enough material to permanently delete your channel 😂.” In another: “Stealing people’s content and uploading it to your channel has severe consequences.”
This is not the language of a detached spiritual teacher. It is the language of a man trying to control the narrative around himself. Criticism becomes persecution. Conflict becomes content. Apology becomes reset. Then the cycle begins again.
Semen retention and sexual purity
One of Shiva’s central obsessions is semen retention. His channel has included titles such as “Semen Retention Is the Path to Godhood” and “What Happens to Your Body on Semen Retention.” He also makes porn-focused content, including “How To Stop Pornography Addiction?”
There is nothing inherently wrong with celibacy, sexual restraint, or wanting to stop compulsive porn use. The problem is the way Shiva turns these subjects into a spiritual hierarchy and a sexual control system.
His website sells a course called “Quit porn, attain sexual mastery,” which includes a semen-retention challenge and private messaging access to Shiva for guidance. This matters because Shiva’s sexual ideology is not limited to self-discipline. It sits beside a fixation on female virginity, women’s sexual worth, and inappropriate questioning of women in his online spaces.
He has claimed women who have sex lose worth. He has said women who “sleep around” have no value. He has said he wants an 18-year-old virgin girl.
That is not spiritual discipline. It is incel sexual ideology dressed in robes.
The old pick-up artist worldview did not disappear when Yuri became Shiva. It was spiritualised. Women became ranked by virginity, youth, purity, attractiveness, and sexual availability. His own desire for a young virgin woman became framed as part of his spiritual path.
Underage followers and sexual advice
The most serious concern is that Shiva’s sexual guidance has not existed in a vacuum. His Discord community included underage people, and he gave intimate advice to followers about masturbation, sexuality, pornography, semen retention, and sexual purity.
A grown man presenting himself as a spiritual authority should not be cultivating a Discord audience that includes minors while giving intimate sexual guidance. The power imbalance is obvious. A self-appointed guru role makes followers more vulnerable, not less.
His current website makes the concern sharper. He sells a porn recovery and sexual mastery course that offers private messaging access to him for guidance. In the context of his Discord history, that is not just a business detail. It is a boundary issue.
This is not spiritual mentorship. It is a dangerous collapse of authority, sexuality, and access.
Women as content
Shiva’s ideology shows up in the way he behaves around women online. When women appear in his Discord or YouTube chat, he tries to ask whether they are virgins and how old they are. When he finds a woman attractive, he tries to keep talking to her, pull her into Discord, and turn the interaction into YouTube content.
The woman becomes a prop in the performance: proof that a woman is speaking to him, proof that he has access, proof that his spiritual persona can attract attention.
This is not how a teacher behaves. It is how a man uses spiritual authority to mask social and sexual entitlement.
The Bali period made that especially clear. While backpacking in Bali, Shiva livestreamed himself attempting to “pick up girls.” He approached foreign backpackers, presented himself as spiritually enlightened, and tried to persuade them to come back to his Airbnb. The implication was obvious. He was using the guru persona as a sexual strategy.
Many of the women appeared visibly uncomfortable. His own chat noticed it.
That episode exposes the continuity between Yuri and Shiva. The pick-up artist mentality was not replaced by spirituality. It was absorbed into it.
Misogyny as “wisdom”
Shiva’s views on women are openly sexist. He has claimed that women should not be police officers because they are too emotional. He has said women should never be in positions of power. He talks about women’s sexual histories as if they determine women’s worth.
This is not ancient wisdom. It is ordinary misogyny dressed in spiritual language.
A robe does not make sexism sacred. A Sanskrit name does not make incel ideology profound. A turban does not transform resentment into truth. Shiva’s worldview places women beneath men, evaluates them by sexual purity, and frames control as spiritual insight.
That is one of the oldest tricks in abusive religious systems: make male insecurity sound like cosmic law.
Veganism, honey, and moral branding
Food is another control point. Shiva pushes veganism on others and berates people over dietary choices, while also promoting schemes that contradict the ethics he claims to uphold.
One example is his beehive donation idea. Followers give money for beehives, which effectively funds honey production. Honey is not vegan. Beehives used for honey are not vegan. Yet the project is wrapped in moral and spiritual language.
He has also asked for money to plant trees, then posted trees that appeared weak and unimpressive. The issue is not whether planting trees is bad. The issue is the pattern: attach spiritual importance to a moral cause, ask followers for money, produce something vague or underwhelming, then move to the next cause.
A Discord message captures the flexibility of his moral priorities: “Theres one thing more important than veganism now.” One month it is veganism. Another month it is Islam. Another month it is semen retention. Another month it is rudraksha. The subject changes, but the structure remains. Shiva declares what matters, pressures others around it, and positions himself as the one who knows.
Bigotry in borrowed robes
Shiva’s public persona also contains open anti-Muslim bigotry. This is especially revealing because he has worn Muslim-style robes as part of his holy-man image.
Discord screenshots show him posting or sharing the line: “Islam is the religion of rpe, incst, and p*dophilia, where they bow down to a stupid rock and a false prophet!” Other messages include “Are you muslim?”, “We don’t promote terrorism here,” and “Muslims dominate Canada by praying in the streets.”
This is not a thoughtful critique of religion. It is bigotry.
The hypocrisy is the point. Shiva borrows religious aesthetics when they make him look spiritual, then shows contempt for the people and traditions behind those aesthetics. The costume is useful. The actual human beings are disposable.
Maryam Magdaleina and the “New Earth” fantasy
Shiva’s platform has repeatedly amplified chaotic spiritual figures. One example is Maryam Magdaleina, previously known as Nargis Alegria.
Before becoming Maryam Magdaleina, she had been known online as a nondual speaker or coach. She later moved into Pranic Living, changed her name, claimed Christ Consciousness, and became the subject of online discussion for increasingly strange beliefs. In an Actualized.org forum thread from January 2024, a user described watching her shift into Pranic Living, claim Christ Consciousness, express strange views about men and women, and claim that Bentinho Massaro was her twin flame or lover communicating with her through energy.
The reason this matters is not Maryam herself. It is Shiva’s pattern.
He talked to Maryam Magdaleina on livestream for hours and promoted the idea that she and Shiva were going to create a “New Earth” retreat in Bali. He hyped the project to his followers and tried to pull people into the fantasy. When the instability of the claims became obvious, the project collapsed.
This was not a private misjudgment. It was platformed. Shiva exposed his audience to the fantasy and encouraged them to take it seriously.
After the Maryam project fell apart, Shiva went to Bali anyway with a few men from his Discord server. When they met him in person, they reportedly realised how strange and problematic he was. They started their own self-help or wellness venture and kicked him out. He then went backpacking.
The episode matters because it shows what happens when the online persona meets real life. The authority that can be performed through a screen did not survive ordinary proximity.
Bhante Varrapanyo and “Doctor Rob”
Another example is Bhante Varrapanyo, associated with the YouTube channel Monk Life Meditation. He had been a Buddhist monk connected to Tabarwa Center before leaving monkhood and later presenting himself online under the fake “Doctor Rob” title.
The point is not to make this article about Rob. The point is that Shiva platformed him.
Rob was already known in online Buddhist spaces as a chaotic figure and e-beggar. After leaving monkhood, his public behaviour became increasingly erratic. He started smoking and drinking heavily, fled with one of the nuns from Tabarwa Center, and began appearing online through the “Doctor Rob” persona.
On livestreams, Rob drew swastikas on his forehead, screamed for long periods, wore face paint and wigs, and made homophobic and transphobic remarks. This was not stable spiritual teaching. It was spectacle.
Shiva platformed him anyway. Rather than keeping distance, he brought Rob into long livestreams and turned the chaos into channel content. His YouTube archive reflects this with titles such as “DR. ROB LIVESTREAM AFTERMATH.”
That fits the same pattern as the Maryam Magdaleina episode. Shiva platformed chaotic spiritual figures, exposed his audience to the fallout, and then repackaged the drama as content.
Discord as the real ashram
The real centre of Shiva’s world is not an ashram. It is Discord and YouTube.
His followers are pulled into livestreams, arguments, private messages, drama, and community rituals of attention. His channel has used titles like “EXTREME DISCORD CHAOS CHALLENGE” and “Discord Chaos Leads To Enlightenment.” The phrase is revealing: chaos becomes enlightenment, drama becomes practice, instability becomes content.
Then there is the grandiosity. His channel includes the title “I NEED PEOPLE TO WORSHIP ME.” Even if framed as a joke or clickbait, it captures the emotional structure of the project. Shiva places himself at the centre of everything: teacher, victim, guru, entertainer, moral judge, sexual advisor, donation recipient, and misunderstood prophet.
That is not a healthy spiritual community. It is a personality cult trying to become a YouTube career.
What the pattern shows
The story of Shiva Kailash Shambho is not a collection of random strange incidents. It is a pattern.
A man named Yuri comes out of pick-up artist and right-wing spaces, becomes obsessed with Sadhguru, gives himself a new legal spiritual name, changes his clothes, changes his voice, and starts presenting himself as a guru. He borrows Hindu and Muslim aesthetics while showing shallow understanding of the traditions and open contempt for Muslims. He claims spiritual powers from Mount Kailash. He turns a bird landing on his head into proof of spiritual significance.
He is rejected by Isha, then turns the rejection into content. He sells “Kailash energy” beads, sexual mastery, spiritual readings, private calls, throat chakra activation, and expensive pilgrimage-linked products. He pushes semen retention, porn recovery, and sexual purity while fixating on female virginity and women’s worth. He gives intimate sexual advice in a Discord ecosystem that included underage people.
He chases women through the guru persona, livestreams uncomfortable pickup attempts in Bali, and talks about women as though their sexual histories determine their value. He pushes vegan morality while raising money for honey-producing beehives. He platforms unstable spiritual figures, then turns the fallout into content. He threatens critics, apologises, resets, and repeats.
Through all of it, the central mechanism stays the same: spiritual authority is manufactured, then monetised.
Why this matters
The modern fake guru does not need a temple. He needs a camera, a Discord server, a donation link, a members-only tab, a course platform, and enough lonely seekers to build a world around him.
Shiva’s audience is not just watching videos. They are being pulled into an ecosystem where he is the authority figure. That matters when the subjects are sexuality, masturbation, porn, virginity, diet, spiritual purity, women’s worth, and private guidance. It matters even more when underage people are present.
The danger is not that Shiva is strange. The danger is that he wraps the strangeness in authority. He uses religious imagery to appear wise, sexual shame to create control, livestream drama to maintain attention, and spiritual products to extract money.
By the time people understand the pattern, they may already have given him money, attention, emotional energy, sexual vulnerability, or spiritual trust.
A final warning
People should be careful around Shiva Kailash Shambho. Women should be careful around him. Young seekers should be careful around him. Anyone considering buying his products, joining his Discord, paying for private guidance, donating to his livestreams, joining one of his trips, buying his sexual mastery course, or treating him as a spiritual authority should look carefully at the evidence.
A legal name change is not initiation. A self-created spiritual name is not lineage. Robes are not wisdom. A fake guru accent is not depth. Sadhguru fandom is not spiritual maturity. Mount Kailash tourism is not enlightenment. A bird landing on someone’s head is not proof of supernatural power. Semen-retention pseudoscience is not a path to Godhood. Misogyny is not tradition. Donation begging is not teaching. Chaos is not enlightenment.
Shiva Kailash Shambho is what happens when right-wing sexual politics, pick-up artist entitlement, Sadhguru imitation, religious appropriation, Discord loneliness, new age fantasy, e-begging, misogyny, anti-Muslim bigotry, and livestream donation culture merge into one self-created spiritual persona.
The result is not enlightenment.
It is exploitation.
I've spoken to this 19 year old guy and did some digging so I can save you a job.
They charge $7000 for a DIY course , you have to set everything up and call all of your leads. You are also expected to spend $100 a day on a day on ad spend to be eligible for their 'guarantee'.
6months ago he was a testimonial of another coach Arjan Dhamija at 7 figure Tutor and he's taken what he's learned and resold it. Pyramid selling basically. He'll eventually encourage you to purchase another course that'll actually get results.
There was another reddit post that had negative reviews and he managed to bring it down and I don't like he's done that.
I've also spoken to their testimonials and apparently he's not asked permission to use them as a testimonial.
feel free to add anything you know about this fake tutor.
What happens when an independent content creator systematically inflates their resume with tier-one global institutions to sell unverified psychological frameworks?
This post introduces a media analysis tracking the public biographies and self-claimed platform authority of Berlin-based writer and podcast producer Miho Soon (Miholyn Soon). It serves as a case study in how modern digital platforms allow public figures to perform institutional authority they have not intellectually earned.
This investigation exposes a systematic pattern of "upward credential inflation":
The Tate Modern Claim: Promoted as a featured researcher/artist at Tate Modern; public archives reveal she was only a participant in "Tate Exchange," an open-access, unvetted community forum hosted inside the building.
The United Nations Claim: Framed as an official UN research partner; institutional records show she was merely a funded youth attendee at a consultative migration forum.
The Guardian Claim: Presented as an authoritative contributor, bypassing the actual editorial processes that give the publication its institutional weight.
The analysis also reveals how she uses these elite badges to insulate a highly commercialized, un-peer-reviewed wellness certification program ("The Trauma of Money") from genuine clinical accountability.
The complete long-form investigative breakdown and the comparative primary data verification table can be read here: Fact-checking Miho Soon: Epistemic Performance and Credentialist Mimicry
Questions for Media Analysts:
How do media literacy frameworks adapt when public figures utilize the explicit vocabulary of anti-capitalism and structural critique to insulate their own commercial profiles from accountability?
When the structural signifiers of prestige (citation metrics, institutional badges) are easily detached from actual editorial vetting on platforms like Substack and Medium, how do we police the boundaries of the "spectacle of expertise"?
This guru business is the biggest fraud in the name of spirituality in India today. Gurus, wearing spears, expensive necklaces and luxurious clothes, are today presenting themselves as the owners of the "biggest startup in Indian history". But the reality is different.
These spiritual businesses do not have the hard work or new ideas of a normal startup. What they sell are the biggest weaknesses of man. Fear of death, fear of disease, isolation and desire for success. They attract lakhs of people and earn crores of rupees by exaggerating things like meditation will cure all diseases and change lives.
The story is clear. On one hand, while ordinary people pay their hard-earned money to attend camps and programs, gurus live a luxurious life. While an ordinary youth studies from morning till night to get admission in IIT or AIIMS, others build an empire on lies and fraud 😣.
This is not Inspirational.........🪬
On the contrary, it is just a business of superstition.
The saddest thing is that this model affects the poor and middle class the most. Sometimes we see the rich and educated falling into this trap 🙄
Ordinary people spend their last rupees in search of salvation. The result? Mental and physical exploitation.
This model of making spirituality a business is an insult to real yoga and meditation. Real spirituality is simple. It does not promote luxurious ashrams or global tours.
But that is not enough for today's gurus. They want empires, land, money, political connections, media advertisements, etc.
Do yoga and meditate. But do not see any guru as God. Question. Criticize. Use reason. Because real spirituality is not built on lies.
A question for those who have made spirituality a business:
If you are truly spiritual, are you ready to make your wealth, assets, and business deals public and live like a normal human being?
The BJP central government is the one who is feeding the thief 🙄👞
#FAKEGURUS #spirituality #BJPGovernment
I was a victim of Swaprakashanandaguruji. I gave my testimony; my case was very serious, and I am still suffering greatly. Due to the trauma and fear, I mustered the courage to expose everything that was happening because there are other people who helped Vikram Vanam Avahuta Swaprakashanandaguruji destroy my life. Through these people who walk with him, who are by his side, they were and are responsible for destroying my life, my family's life, and my daughter's life. They are currently in my body through tantric techniques connected to me. Their names are Dhvani Rana, u/Dhvanirana13, and jyotisaini07 is his brother Hashbawaa, who owns the Dunas Music Festival. They are part of Vikram Vanam Swaprakashanandaguruji's circle, where Dhvani Rana is linked to their Sri Vydia tantra religion. As Avadhuta's sexual partner, Avadhuta, during all this time of over 6 years destroying my life, used Dhvani Rana to send indirect, frightening messages through his social media to intimidate me, turn my life into chaos, and harm me. Spiritually, I found some tantric practitioners who told me what Swaprakashananda Guruji was doing to me, my body, my life. He entered my body, aroused me, destroyed my life, and sexually satisfied Dhvani Rana personally with my arousal and my suffering because she harbors a great envy of me, my beauty, my body, my mannerisms, my intelligence, and she wanted my life based on her own satisfactions. She's an ugly, worthless woman who, to have sex with him, prefers my sexual energy to lift her spirits, and when she feels jealous or envious, she...He made me hurt myself and my young daughter, who was 5 years old at the time, every year they drove me crazy, threw me from one social network to another, took me to a psychiatric hospital. I had no desire for them nor was I satisfied with anything; they just found me online. I was married, my baby was still breastfeeding. They stirred my kundalini, entered my body and mind, and started telling lies and physically controlling me like a zombie. My entire account is on other social networks. Devipuram also spoke out about Vikram Vanam, and they are still threatening me and disrupting my life because of the jealousy and envy of Dhvani Rana, who is not talented. I am an artist beyond my social networks; I am very sought after and very beautiful in person, very cultured, a nerd, and she wanted to destroy me because of Vikram Vanam, Swaprakashananda Guruji Avadhuta. I am denouncing them for being part of Vikram Vanam's scheme to enter a person's body and mind and destroy their life. I am from another country, and these Demons are currently, along with a Tibetan Guru who lives on the social networks of Vikram vanam Swaprakashanandaguruji, trying day and night to make me commit suicide by torturing me, controlling my body and mind, not even letting me rest. I left my messages asking for help on the amritananda devipuram forum, and some tantric practitioners joined to help me with sadhanas that they said would...I tried to remove Vikram, but it was a trap. They were personal friends of Dhvani Rana. I saw them as part of her Instagram friends list later, and as soon as I realized it, they were driving me crazy again, making me masturbate for them under threat and torture with disgusting images and fabricated stories so that Dhvani Rana and her family could find satisfaction in my suffering and pain for pure pleasure. They are criminals. I denounce them and I still need someone's help to break the telepathic communication and control over my life. Those who are in the tantric spiritual community know that this is how it works. And I am currently warning everyone and asking for help. They are killing me and don't want to leave my body and mind. My case is urgent. I am saying that there were many physical crimes such as intimidation and manipulation by these people through their social networks to make it seem like something it wasn't, to keep me trapped in sick and dirty stories. I had no choice at any moment; they entered my body without permission and are now hurting me to cause my suicide. I ask that if there are more victims, please leave your account and help me get them out of These criminals commit both physical and spiritual crimes. For those who don't believe what I'm saying, Devipuram posted on his social media and websites about this man; just search for his name where he claims there are countless victims.
*This is a repost of a post made one month ago, in that time we have been inundated with additional details and evidence. In an effort to keep the post up to date, I accidentally got the post banned due to too many edits. It feels a shame to let it die as a lot of work went into the research, so I’ll repost this complete version and any updates will be in the comments. Apologies for how long it is, the devil is in the details with these things*
*This is for educational and entertainment purposes as a matter of consumer interest, please do not attempt to harass or contact individuals mentioned. Any jokes or attempts at humour are purely to prevent this being a boring slog of information, and is no way intended to diminish the experience of any potential victims or individuals involved*
Here’s a deep dive into British-based course-seller John Lee (of John Lee Group, formerly of Wealth Dragons.) What started as an inside joke in a group-chat due to the sheer volume of ads we were getting has now descended into a very deep dive into a shallow world. As more and more red flags became visible, we started to compile public records, attend his 3-day introductory event, and speak to staff members, their family, and alleged victims to attempt to try and connect the dots and understand this industry. In a piece of citizen journalism that some critics are already describing as “kinda pointless because I’ve never heard of his dude”
At this point we felt it was clear this was a matter of public interest and could potentially help consumers make more informed decisions in the world of online courses and gurus in general. To hopefully spare the admins any headache, all claims have evidence and sources provided, and linked in the text or attached in the images section to avoid any frivolous or malicious legal threats, anything without evidence can be considered a personal opinion or speculation towards a public figure based on the evidence presented, any non-public figures will remain nameless. For the bulk of the research we have used the OSINT method, making sure (where possible) evidence is already in the public domain, and I’m merely cataloguing it. However some important evidence was sourced in conversations with former staff and customers, and thanks to a whistle-blower we were shown a private staff group chat where staff discuss Mr Lee's behaviour, mainly confirming things that are already publicly evidenced so I’ll use that evidence sparingly to protect their identity.
This is a collaborative effort but understandably, contributors wish to remain anonymous, as do I (and it definitely isn’t because I accidentally signed up for the mailing list in my government name lol)
With all that out of the way, let's begin…
So Who Is This Guy?:
In his own words-
'John is the author of Business Hack and has shared the stage with Bill Clinton, Tony Robbins, Alan Sugar, Richard Branson, Les Brown, Jack Canfield, Robin Sharma, Mel Robbins, Deepak Chopra, Daymond John, Jack Welch, Gabby Bernstein, Eric Thomas, Brian Tracy, Michael Gerber, John Assaraf, John Demartini, Jay Abraham, Marissa Peer, Sharon Lechter, and Randi Zuckerberg.'
Interestingly, this was recently pulled down from his website, it only took us 2 months of pointing out in public forums how it's in incredibly poor taste to name drop certain folk in the wake of the Epstein Files. But it's not like it was global news or anything so it's probably nothing to worry about.
But to put it briefly, John Lee is a Milton Keynes based entrepreneur and course-seller. Boasting an impressive 6million followers on social media*, multiple 6-figure businesses*, and 17k book sales*. Originally entering the scene as one half of ‘Wealth Dragons” with co-owner (and surprisingly jacked) entrepreneur Vincent Wong, selling courses on property investments. However, following a rather messy fall out between this once happy couple, John Lee’s brand has abandoned the property stuff and instead pivoted to more modern trends like social media and A.I, now describing himself as a ‘AI Expert · Entrepreneur · Futurist ‘ on his homepage, and seems to take a lot from the Robert Kiyosaki business model. He also has ties to Jay Shetty, Eric Ho of Coffeezilla fame (aka Master Sri Akarshana aka Captain Cultural Appropriation) ,ball kicker and role-model Rio Ferdinand, and ‘Hun club’ operator Mirela Sula. There’s A LOT of name dropping at these events.
*citations sorely needed
And for only $(Insert wildly varying amount here) he can show you the secrets to living the dream life. The big house, the cars, the watches, the shiny blazer, and whatever the hell this is.
As of 2026, Mr Lee faces major litigation due to alleged ‘misconduct’ at wealth dragons, allegations of “fraudulent” or “scammy” behavior on public record dating back almost a decade, and what appears to be a suspiciously high turnover of staff. We’ve exposed several fake gurus and made a hobby of getting them banned from Instagram where possible. But as this specific case unravelled, it became clear that in my opinion, this was one of the most layered and concerning examples I’ve personally witnessed and serves as a great walkthrough on how to find red-flags in this industry.
While there's a rich history of the common accusations we’re used to in r/fakeguru. Such as information being a repackage of stuff available for free elsewhere, people claiming they’ve gone into debt/lost everything from being misled, constant upsells, favouring a cult-like ‘mindset’ approach over professionalism. We’ve opted to zoom in on more specific and tangible accusations and criticisms. Certain topics of concern have been omitted to prevent it from straying too close to breaking rule 2 of the subreddit, as it involves the wife/co-director disclosing personal matters to staff during a failureof duty of care.
Fans of bigotry may remember him from this “comedy” sketch starring David Walliams in the early 00’s.
Refund Issues:
This one speaks for itself through the google and Trustpilot reviews for Wealth Dragons and John Lee Group, respectively (see picture attached for prime examples) Consistent reports and patterns of people having difficulty receiving refunds despite their ‘100% refund guarantee’, these reviews date back over 5 years and the most recent one at the point of typing this was 18 days ago.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/69f31c14faebf9afde314684
Moneysaving expert even has a dedicated thread on the topic dating all the way back to 2016
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5427254/refund-on-wealth-dragons-course-edited-by-forum-team
The New York Times Bestseller:
As mentioned in the introduction, Mr Lee claims to have made 17k sales of his latest book, ‘Money Unlocked’. And has now started posting online and through his mailing list that it is now a New York Times bestseller.
Knowing what we know about Mr Lee, naturally there was some cynicism to such a claim. So fact checked it, and it is true but with a massive asterix. His book has been marked by the NYT editorial team with the dagger symbol, known in the publishing industry as the ‘dagger of death’. “It indicates that a significant portion of a book's sales came from bulk or institutional purchases rather than individual readers”
Per medium:
“This dagger is meant to alert readers to any wrongdoings and discourage anyone who thinks they can buy their way onto the list. The dagger is a kiss of death for any writing career, as it symbolizes to everyone (publishers and booksellers included) that you made your way onto the list, not by way of your own talents.”
While not explicitly illegal. It's the topic of intense moral and ethical debate and often considered cheating. And obviously serves to bolster the accusations of astroturfing as evidenced by the trustpilot incident.
And of course there’s precedent…there’s always precedent.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wealth-Dragon-Way-Infinitely-Wealthy/dp/1119533120
In the reviews for one of Mr Lee’s previous books from the Wealth Dragons era, this review also accuses them of rigging the numbers.
“Very general information. Quite salesy. Would not recommend. There are promises of making lots of money but you have to take out loans or put a lot of your savings into it, and no guarantee as it did not work for me and others, and it cost me a lot of money and in debt.
At the event they encouraged you to buy this from Amazon, and if you showed them your receipt they would give you another copy of the book, so they could boost their sales on Amazon.”
Upon further research, we discovered people posting copies of the book that they have received in the mail without their knowledge or prior consent. Each book contains a note with an invitation to a FREE event (introductory events are always free anyway). As of 06/26/25 this ‘bestseller’ has only generated 28 amazon ratings globally despite it being released in late April, suspiciously low for a bestseller from a major publisher.
Based on this evidence, it's fair to say that Mr Lee is responsible for the book receiving the ‘dagger of death’ in order to obtain vanity metrics on the new york times chart. Then using the surplus of books to hand them out for free like a glorified leaflet drop to lure people into the sales conversion funnel. I personally also have concerns about where the data was scraped from to get people’s names and addresses.
Reception on goodreads has also been extremely weak:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/242881230-money-unlocked
Social Media Following:
Mr Lee frequently cites his online following of 6million in his marketing material. Yet a comment on this very well-written review on bankers anonymous makes this astute point:
https://www.bankers-anonymous.com/book/book-review-the-wealth-dragon-way-by-john-lee-and-vincent-wong/
“Let me get this straight- if you see his Instagram followers and Facebook followers- I can easily smell that he bought a lot of likes and followers. The engagement comments he gets in Facebook is very low in comparison to number of likes. You know you have companies who you can pay and get instant likes and followers in any pages. That’s what he did initially and Leveraging that to promote the hell out of himself.”
Forum user Hazel3421 also points this out in a comment from 2021
“He buys Instagram followers and sells in his bio he grew his following to 5 million whereby half of his following came from buying fake followers. Check on social blade account and type John_lee_offcial and you will see the fake followers”
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5427254/refund-on-wealth-dragons-course-edited-by-forum-team/p3
So Let's look at the data:
We put these claims to the test, focusing primarily on his Instagram, and the numbers very much speak for themselves and back up the accusations. Unfortunately social blade doesn't go back further than 3 years, and god knows I’m not paying for a premium subscription, but all the signs of a fake/purchased following are there:
-Extremely low engagement, his main account having only 0.01% engagement.
-Huge haemorrhages of followers, losing 42k in May 2026 alone.
-69% of the following is based in India, a known hotspot for bot farms.
-Low quality or repetitive comments
Internal speculation:
While compiling evidence on one of the omitted subjects, we were shown messages from a whistleblower showing interactions between staff members that *seem* to be implying he’s paying for instagram reach, and another weighing in on the wealth dragons drama. We were also shown a staff whatsapp group named ‘lifeline’ discussing concerns about their employer’s behaviour, false promises, and impulsive behavior. It's important to note that due to the timelines of these messages and the seemingly high turnover of staff, these are most likely former-staff at this point. For context on the screenshots, the name ‘Jen’ is an alias of Mun Yee Hoh, Co-director of the company and wife of Mr Lee as seen in his content.
The Trustpilot Incident:
The day before the 3-day event we attended, one of our group left a review on trustpilot listing the same issues explored here (but unfortunately trustpilot doesn’t let you share links or evidence) At the time of posting, there was under 20 reviews on the page through the 10+ years of John Lee Group being active, the majority being negative. At the time of writing (less than 4 months on) there are now 570 reviews, the majority now overwhelmingly positive.
So what happened?
Well, despite the review ending with a joke about him seeing it ‘when googling himself at 3am and seeing this’, sometime during the night, the profile was claimed, the review was taken down by a report, and the author was asked to remove 2 paragraphs. We decided through a group a decision to leave it down/not reword it as it was causing distress to a whistleblower.
That weekend was a 3 day live introductory/sales pitch event via zoom. It was at the end of these daily streams when things got really shady. After a day of doing random ‘tasks’ assigned to us and with the vague insinuation of freebies and competitions lingering in the air, we were shown a QR code on screen. Sending us to trustpilot asking for a nice review while music played and he waited for us.
While asking for reviews isn't illegal or shady, podcasters etc do it all the time. Waiting for us to do it there and then felt like it was crossing a line, especially when this was just an introduction/sales pitch event. It’d be like asking to review a movie after seeing the trailer. A lot of these five-star reviews stray into hyperbole, describing it as life changing, describing Mr Lee as god-like and a major player in the A.I industry. And others are barely coherent, one even getting his name wrong (how can I build a business if I can't even build a sentence?)
That weekend we watched just shy of 200 reviews roll in, and over the weeks we took turns monitoring it. It was the same thing every time there was an event. Waves of overwhelmingly positive reviews, all posted on the day of events at the exact same time, some from the same people reviewing multiple times. This instantly makes any positive testimonials completely untrustworthy and far from organic. Astroturfing a positive reputation online feels like a huge red flag. But it did lead to 2 revelations
This isn’t a new technique, wealth dragons trustpilot and google reviews show similar patterns of review spikes, this trustpilot user even calls it out. And while it may have been allowed back then, the ‘Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Act‘ passed in 2024 seeking to combat both incentivised and misleading reviews.
The icing on the cake happened late into the night on Sunday, the final day of the 3 day livestream. When a trustpilot clone popped up called https://johnleereviews.com/. Already hosting 3 reviews, one from John Lee Himself, one from an individual named Pearleen (who we’re 90% sure is a staff member), and someone called foo yung sheng (google just gives us food recipes). It was at this point I had a strange feeling in my stomach. Between that and watching him stutter and pull his shirt away from his armpits every time someone pointed out his math wasn't mathing during the live session (that wasn’t us, just fyi) it was all starting to feel a bit sad in my opinion.
Possibly Fake Discounts:
Through browsing his website, we noticed a pattern of extremely high prices, crossed out with a much lower price next to it. Implying there's a huge saving to be made and this is an offer we should jump on. But months later when we attended the 3 day free event, the prices on the website were still the same. And there were intense ‘discounts’ during the live sessions, presumably to induce fomo and drive sales since it is a free sales pitch event. To the best of our knowledge it wasn’t even possible to get these courses for full price at the time.
Under many consumer protection laws (such as the UK's Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations), crossing out a price is legally misleading if the product was never actually sold at that higher "anchor" price for a meaningful period.
These have since vanished from the site (around the same time he removed the name drops of Epstein associates) opting for a more vague declaration of how much ‘value’ is included, such as whopping $70,000 for a 2 day event with lunch provided, is Salt Bae making the sandwiches?
It's a double-edged problem, if it’s a fake discount and nobody is buying the high rate, it's breaking consumer protection laws. If it's real and people are paying that, it means there's a huge disparagement in what attendees are paying, which is unfair and disrespectful to those who are paying $35.5k vs those paying $2.9k, for example.
It's worth mentioning, that at the time of being shown these prices we were also offered heavy discounts in exchange for signing up new people. Now I don't mind alienating my friends and family for personal profit, but it added a slightly crass MLM/Pyramid shaped angle to the proceedings, which feels beneath the calibre the high-end businessman Mr Lee claims to be.
Salesfunnels.io:
Trustpilot user “TC” made a very interesting discovery while attending the same free introductory session where all the trustpilot issues started.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6974e45350d140c19d073e3a
“A large part of the content so far has centred around promoting salesfunnels.io, which is repeatedly positioned as the solution for most strategies discussed. However, it is not made clear during the sessions that this is John’s own platform only found out because the copyright on the site says his name. After looking at his Instagram, he regularly promotes the tool, yet there is rarely transparent disclosure that he profits from it, which feels misleading rather than educational.”
Ignorant to all the new business platforms on the market (my office job still has fax machines), we didn't realise it was a platform owned by Mr Lee and thought it was just a recommendation, in the same way he was recommending specific AI platforms, like claude etc. So we dug deeper, we checked out the tiny bit of copyright info on the salesfunnel website and confirmed it is owned by Mr Lee as per this guy’s claims. But found no mention of it in his business records on companies house.
A quick google shows the platform has little to no impact outside of the JLG ecosystem. The only organic thing we could find was a deleted reddit post from someone asking if it works and who owns it.
In a similar vein to how it was presented in the live event, it’s mentioned here but mixed in casually with more established names.
https://businessblueprint.com/advanced-social-media-strategies-to-skyrocket-your-leads-and-sales/
Failure to disclose isn’t consistent, though. And Mr Lee can be found crediting himself for making it, such as the very tail-end of this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJFk7w5OzdE
The reason this is concerning is because it makes it feel like a personal recommendation, when it's actually another product he wanted to sell to the audience. More established entrepreneur and actual dragon, Steven Bartlett, faced controversy for a similar scenario in recent years:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rwz5xkrg8o
Staff Issues:
Franchesca Ung and the Corporate Break-In:
During the trustpilot affair, we noticed the first of the recent wave of positive reviews coming in was from an individual named Franchesca Ung. Thinking nothing of it, we didn’t look into this individual right away.
However, the very next day, during the first of the 3 day live sessions, we saw the name of the admin lady tasked with sharing links in the chat while John Lee was streaming……Franchesca Ung, how odd, we thought to ourselves. When she was introduced on camera as part of ‘the team’ we realised beyond doubt that this is the exact same person who left the review posing as a satisfied customer. Completely failing to declare her position within the company in a way that could easily mislead any potential customers looking for feedback before signing up.
So we googled her, and it turns out she's one half of ‘the corporate break out couple’, a Singapore/Malaysia based couple who claim to have retired early and sell courses promoting that lifestyle. While her public-facing social media doesn't explicitly state she works for John Lee, instead pushing her own guru-esque content, her travels to various locations around the world sync up with John Lee’s events.
The couple appeared on the popular business podcast ‘The Financial Coconut’ to promote their courses. In this video, the couple states that they are financially independent and have retired early, having reached this status in 2020 with a portfolio of slightly over 2 million Singapore dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwDj7EsF5s(some of the comments at the time also question their legitimacy, and express displeasure at their poor attitude to people who work regular jobs)
But maybe they’ve just fallen on hard times in the 2 years since that video was posted and they’re no longer retired, and working regular jobs with the rest of us losers….
But that is not the case, we reached out to them via their youtube channel (Feb 2026) and they confirmed they are still selling courses (We are unsure if it was the Franchesca or the husband who replied)
Employment tribunal:
In late 2020 an employee took wealth dragons to tribunal claiming unlawful deductions from her wages. Wealth dragons had seemingly ignored it and the judge ruled in favour of the claimant.
“No response having been received to the Claimant’s claim The Claimant has suffered unlawful deductions from her wages in the sum of £1842.85.”
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fbf88068fa8f559e7757725/Mrs_D_Saint_v_Wealth_Dragons_Ltd__-_3306568-2020__-_Judgment.pdf
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Does anyone know what I could/should do? Pretty much this youtube smma guy that I had watched for a while that I thought was legit turned into being the most awful nightmare for me. Long story short, I bought into his program that he will help me also generate clients, and what ended up happening is he illegally sends out cold, unsolicited messages in order for me and people in his inner circle to get clients.
I have now been sued because of the way that he generates leads for his inner circle which is a legally soliciting, which is against the law to do so and he never said this was a gray area at all, and he's at no fault or part of it. Now I'm having to repay back around $500 for every single person (which which he and his team reached out to over 500 people) that he unsolicitedly messaged for me to get clients, and I was never aware of this.