r/GeordieGreep

It's terrifying to watch what is happening right now.

I live in Eastern Europe, and it's honestly terrifying to watch how someone handed out slanderous flyers at a concert without a single accusation from the victim and all yesterday's fans, friends, and musicians instantly turned their backs, without even trying to get to the bottom of it.

The world isn't black and white, and it never was. You deserve sterile AI artists.

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u/flowflowflowww — 6 days ago

Not saying he did it or not.

Not saying he did it or not.

The main "evidence" is a flyer some random guy spread with no validation. The flyer headline said he's a "rapist".

2.

Greep said he tried to make a move by kissing a girl without her consent and he misread the situation and apologized to her right away.

So until there's a further notice I think its the best not to go out and spread misinformation (possibly) because it could ruin his career for nothing because he may have not done it.

I do not tend to believe some random guys that give flyers and hope nothing happened.

I hope this situation will be dealt and we will get a message of what happened.

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u/AardvarkTraditional3 — 6 days ago

Fliers Scattered in the Back Alley Behind The Pearl

I attended the show in Vancouver last night with my friend who arrived earlier than I did and he met the man who was distributing the fliers. I did not meet him firsthand, but my friend was handed a flier and the man indicated to him that he "believed Geordie was going to get away with it anyway and just wants to make the night shitty for him." My friend refused to take a flier, saying, "what am I supposed to do with this?" To which the man said something along the lines of: "fair point." It seems the man intended for the fliers to make their way into the venue to disrupt the show.

After the show (about 15-20 minutes after Geordie left the stage) my friend and I wandered into the alley behind the venue. What we saw was quite haunting and might explain why it took so long for Geordie to come out on stage. According to my friend as well as other testimonies, the man did not have a ticket and was simply loitering outside the venue. Seeing the way the fliers were scattered in the alley and tapes on the walls, etc. suggests he may have had some sort of altercation with Geordie, the band, or the crew, as Geordie was made aware of the fliers before the show was scheduled to start. What's even more strange is that so soon after the show there was no sign of Geordie or the band. No gear van or anything. Last year I met Greep behind the venue and the band were all hauling gear into the van for over an hour after the show, but this time it seems like they were quick to vacate. I'm not sure what exactly occurred between Geordie, the band, the flier guy, and the crew, but this is the evidence and all I saw was a security guy in his car outside the door getting in and driving away.

I want to be clear I am not aiming to make any biased statements on the matter right now, but I would like to provide relevant information that could help bring clarity to the situation before we hear more testimonies. The man seemed to be gone by the time the concert ended, and as of now his identity still seems to be unknown. Barring the veracity of any claim, the man's attitude, conduct, and M.O. seemed highly selfish and attention-seeking. It seems his motive was to create drama before Geordie left Canada instead of confronting him in a civil manner, contacting the VPD, etc. Geordie indeed gave an awkward statement to the crowd that didn't offer any real clarity, but at that point people had been standing around in the (hot and muggy) venue for close to three hours, and the people who remained were just hoping they could hear from him.

Either way, the scene in the alley behind the venue was quite eerie. I thought it might be a bit of a tense situation back there, but my curiosity naturally led me to investigate. Seems something might've went down.

u/Fast-Long3664 — 6 days ago

You guys are WAY overreacting

So his statement was essentially he went to bars and met people, then ended up at a house party and misread a situation and made someone uncomfortable and felt shitty and embarrassed about it. (Probably kissed them?)

This is a very human interaction and while of course unfortunate I believe this is being blown WAY out of proportion.

I promise everybody you love or look up to has done something worse than drunkenly misreading a social signal and making an uncomfortable situation.

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u/Ok-Wafer-6200 — 6 days ago

Never heard of anything happening like this

This is so fucking weird and the image of the flyer and them all scattered outside the venue is truly insane. Been following Geordie's music career for years now and seeing his name on a piece of paper like that, scattered all over the floor is just... shocking and nuts and seems like a really unhelpful way of dealing with something potentially serious.

Personally I am waiting for more info, a serious accusation of r*pe printed on a flyer being handed out by a shady, anonymous figure outside a gig and then an impulsive explanation by the accused in front of a live audience is just insane, I've never heard of anything like that. And then he played a solo set straight after?? This is at risk of getting out of hand and could get in the way of what is important here; the accusers truth.

Let's all take a step back and not muddy the waters anymore. Thoughts with any potential victim always.

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u/Cute_Communication86 — 6 days ago

I already made a comment saying this but thought id make a post, I feel as if too many people are too scared to say

I don't understand? People can read signals wrong and go in for a kiss or something that doesn't make them awful? It's about the response after, the intent and the nature

Going in for a move, the person not reciprocating and stopping immediately and apologising doesn't make someone a terrible person

Acting as if half these people haven't misread a signal before and made someone uncomfortable whether that be sexually or in another way

As I said if he stopped and apologised immediately when she expressed discomfort like he should think to be a little more careful but nothing more than that
Misreading signals happens, it doesn’t automatically make someone a sexual deviant

Also we have to admit these flyers are completely counterproductive and the motive behind them seems to be stirring stuff up instead of actually raising awareness

Idk why everyone in this generation has so much moral perfectionism

But we will wait and see till more comes out, although at the moment I don't get why everyone's suddenly calling him disgusting? (If what he is saying is the truth)

We shall see if a further statement comes out from the woman involved although right now I don’t think there’s anything to be said or any fuss to be caused as his explanation clears it up fine in my eyes

Edit - if he done something horrible this doesn’t excuse it at all but another thing is it’s very obvious that Greep is autistic so very awkward

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u/threatofjjoy — 6 days ago

No matter what truly happened

If your response to a fucking rape allegation is to start shitposting, making stupid jokes and brainrot references, you're an emotionally stunted freak.

This terminally ironic breed of fandom has been a problem for a while now, but you're a genuinely despicable cunt if you treat rape allegations as fucking meme material.

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u/BillyPilgrim69 — 6 days ago

Stop speculating about band members walking out.

Spoke with some band members after the show. I didn’t ask for details but from what they volunteered it seemed like everyone felt it best not to play for career/reputation/cancel culture reasons.

Geordie came out under obvious stress and played a show for the people who’d come to see him after delivering an acknowledgment of the situation. Clearly this was what he felt was best/right in the moment.

I’m seeing people speculate about what the band’s lack of appearance must have meant. Stop. We’re all likely biased and wrong. The touring musicians are contractors. They have a job on the line.

If band members make statements, great. Until then please don’t speculate.

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u/Spoony_Tingler — 6 days ago

Conflicted over tn. Devoid of everything being said it was an extremely intimate and special show. But man… fuck.

I seriously hope the allegations made tonight are unfounded as this man has made such an impact on me. Im more inclined to believe the victim but can only hope for more context and a better response from greep.

u/edibleretardent — 6 days ago

Greep allegations?

Was just handed this in line at Vancouver... he said his lady friend woke up to "Greep kissing on her"

u/FunkyFlorian — 6 days ago

Please stop

It is so gross how you all are posting memes about an alleged rape. It just shows you don’t actually believe it but want to participate in canceling someone. Because neither of what either party described comes close to rape. And the guy who spread all these flyers sounds like he really enjoyed blowing this out of proportion. And you’re using what Geordie said about making someone uncomfortable as evidence that he is a rapist. As if you assume he’s going to lie and only tell half the truth and that somehow proves rape

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u/Decent-Bug4789 — 6 days ago

Just something I wanna put out there

I just deleted my shitty karma grabbing post because like wtf.
But I think everyone should hold their breath for the moment. Leave the show sure, but at least wait until there is a clearer picture. Regardless of what is the case, should at least wait until we know the full picture. For both the woman and Geordie Greep.

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u/_phat_phish_ — 6 days ago

Vancouver crowd sickens me

I’m sure everyone already knows what happened tonight but I just want to say the way a small minority of the crowd reacted is sickening. Firstly, nobody can draw any conclusions from what happened tonight. But more importantly to what most people aren’t addressing: making jokes about “Geordie creep” or “Geordie grape” is disgusting, it doesn’t matter who you believe. If you believe the allegations are true, you’re making light of the victim’s suffering and if you don’t believe the allegations, you’re dragging an innocent man into the ground. Neither outcomes are good and you’re not supporting anyone. Shame on anyone that thinks this sort of behaviour is tolerable. And wait until more evidence comes out.

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u/Salt-Ad-7978 — 6 days ago

some disorganized thoughts from an upset female fan (im sorry i just have to get some things out of my system or i won't be able to get to sleep. forgivr me)

I have attempted to slightly organize my thoughts in a numbered list

1: fucking ow
i have a lot of very intense feelings about the new sound and greep's music in general. it hits me in some very very vulnerable places, some which are pretty normal and some of which are really really fucking embarrassing. i was actually in the middle of writing a video essay dissecting my own relationship with this particular piece of art. i let it permeate into my brain in the same way ive done with a lot of my autistic special interests, they become a piece of me.
so when i find out something that makes it necessary for me to disentangle something from myself it can be a real shock to the system. if you're feeling the same i understand completely. right now i'm physically shaking and feel really nauseous. even that is really really embarrassing to admit.
even though i feel like i'm too upset, i'm not trying to blame myself for that. i think it's really normal to presume some level of parasocial (neutral) trust with an artist when you have an emotional connection with their work. i think it's a subconscious thing for me

2: benefit of the doubt
anyone trying to convince you that women routinely lie about sexual assault is a fucking misogynist and you should not listen to them. women are far, far more likely not to say anything when they are sexually harassed or assaulted or attempt to convince themselves that what happened wasn't really that bad (source: hi. this happened to me. i was little and was dismissed when i bought it up to someone i thought would take me seriously. it wasn't traumatizing or anything but certainly made me feel like shit).
sometimes genuine miscommunications can happen, though. i've been stuck in the middle of those before too, and it was utterly awful for everyone involved.
i'm not saying that's what it was, greep could be deliberately downplaying his actions, just because he's an awkward man doesn't mean he's bumbling through this without any agenda at all, but when the victim's point of view is being distributed secondhand that obviously muddies the water. i don't believe she has an obligation to reveal herself to the world and open herself up to the misogynistic abuse that would surely be hurled her way, but the uncertainty is uncomfortable to sit in.

3: art and performance
two of my favorite bands ever are neutral milk hotel and the music tapes. julian koster (frontman of the music tapes, bassist/accordionist/saw player in nmh) was in a predatory relationship with a teenage fan who accused him of raping her. it's a really messy situation but julian admitted to the relationship and i believe the victim when she says he raped her. this whole thing still breaks my fucking heart and makes me really upset.
after this some folks were like "wow. are you really surprised that there was a child predator in the i-wanna-fuck-anne-frank band?" or "wow, no wonder. he always acted so weird"
this statement is dumb for multiple reasons. julian wasn't writing the lyrics and also that's not what the album is about. but even if he was the one writing the lyrics im really weary about connecting someone's art or like. general vibe. to the thing's theyve done. like. i don't think greep writing an album about toxic masculinity is some sort of a long con covering up the fact that he was secretly evil the whole time or that fans should have known better. however

4: betrayal
part of the reason i liked the new sound was that it was a total skewering of toxic masculinity. i wanted to believe greep is a feminist ally. maybe he thought he was. but this just feels like every single other nice-seeming dude who ended up doing some gross shit.

im not happy right now.

u/miss_mossycoat — 6 days ago

The Concert :<

i started recording the first bits of the concert but after i didnt have the courage. the preformance of "the magician" was probably one of the best preformances ive ever seen if anyone happened to take a video of it i would love to have it.

holy that was super uncomfortable though.

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u/Ok-Philosopher-1220 — 6 days ago

my thoughts

Regarding the Geordie Greep situation in Vancouver… this is OP’s GF, i don’t have reddit so i’m asking them to post this. I think the way the victim is coming out about this situation is very odd… regarding what other people at the Vancouver show provided, the man who was handing out posters only said that “his lady friend woke up w him kissing on her” but no other details. I understand staying Jane Doe especially regarding celebrities, but the vagueness is concerning. I feel like the victim and their friend (guy handing out posters) wanted mainly to ruin his reputation instead of maybe trying to file a report? Although i do understand cops are  unreliable often times regarding SA reports, more over though them claiming rape when it was SA..? Also, the lack of information provided pushed Greep to make his own statement, which will be demonized since it’s the ONLY detailed statement out there, AND he is the one being accused of SA. Over all concerning, and I wish the victim would come out anonymously to provide more details.. although I can understand how scary it can be to come out about SA stories as an SA survivor myself. I just feel like also the victim or their friends/team should maybe come out with their own statement, since if they want to be believed as credible a witness or victim statement would help. Also, for people telling Greep to lawyer up or that he should’ve not said anything at all to incriminate himself, if he lawyered up that would look VERY suspicious. SA allegations tend to follow people even if proven false, and if he didn’t address it at all that would also look very questionable. I fear there is not much he can do in this situation at the very moment, since i assume he doesn’t have evidence to back up his claim either currently. Very sad situation all around though

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u/Freeicecreambro — 6 days ago

This can not be happening

His music and his art has made such a deep impact on my life. If any of this shit's true I genuinely don't know what I'll do.

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u/joshingyou299 — 6 days ago