r/IWantOut

[IWantOut] 19m Dubai->Bangkok/Panama City/Kuala Lumpur/Singapore/Mexico City

Hi guys, I was pretty confused on where I should go and I thought you guys could offer me advice.

I’m a 19 year old (online) business owner who makes around 5-10k usd consistently every month. I want to leave Dubai because I think I’ve spent enough time in this place, and I want out. Not to mention I’m not exactly fond of the culture here. I want a fresh start.

I should note I also hold Indian citizenship, but I’ve been born and raised up in Dubai. I would go back to India, and it’s not a bad place, but I don’t feel like I belong there. I don’t wanna build my life over there, and I’d like to generally stay away from my family there. I speak fluent English, and I’m prepared to learn the language of whichever country I’m going to.

One of the main things I don’t wanna face is racism, discrimination. I want to be accepted as a normal person, who isn’t discriminated against for something I could not choose, I.e my skin colour. I want to go to a place where I can be normal, where I can make friends, date, etc without being discriminated against. I also don’t want to go to a place where the politicians actively hate my existence. For what it’s worth, I didn’t face any outright discrimination or racism in Dubai, though there are subtle hints of it. But I can handle that. Social integration is the most important.

Also, I’d like to prefer somewhere that’s a city. It’s not a requirement, but it’s my own dream to own a comfortable studio in some high rise building. I am very much in love with these types of places, maybe because of where I was raised up in. Obviously, I’d prefer taxes also not being sky high. I can live with around 35%, but yeah i wouldnt want anything above 50%. But again, they’re not as important as social integration.

I was looking at Bangkok/ Panama City/ all the other options mentioned above, but if you guys have any advice on where else I could go, it would be appreciated. I largely believe USA and most of Europe is not what I’m looking for, and maybe somewhere multicultural would be amazing.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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u/apotheosis_0 — 5 days ago

[IWantOut] 22m India -> Netherlands\Spain\Poland\Finland\Ireland\Germany\Scotland\France\Austria

From the past 2 months I've been pondering upon the fact that why was I born in this shithole country but I don't want to continue to be a miserable person so I'm asking out for help and I'm fully aware the ongoing anti immigration wave which is spread across all of the globe and how much every living human hates indian right now and that is the only reason i can't even afford to consider america.

I'm going to graduate with a bachelor of technology in computer science from a terrible college and i dont think I'm going to pursue this career at all because of the current software engineering market scenario right now.

I know Blue collar is the only option considering my background which is fine I can do it. I believe I have the tenacity and resilience to make a living for myself in a foreign country if provided with opportunities.

Right now I've got 0 expertise in any specific country oriented languages like German , dutch or whatever but I can learn since I'm still 22 and my neuroplasticity is still ongoing. Please help an individual human who's just trying to find his way into this world out and I'm quite aware that grass is not always greener on the other side crap so please refrain yourself from telling me to stay here.

🙏

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u/BuddhiMotiLullichoti — 5 days ago

[IWantOut] 26m Kuwait -> Netherlands/Germany/Austria/Switzerland/Belgium/Spain/US

TLDR :

"I’m a Lebanese citizen born and raised in Kuwait, where expatriates face long-term uncertainty, limited access to nature, extreme heat, and a high cost of living. Returning to Lebanon is not an option due to the ongoing war. Despite trying to relocate to Europe through visa applications and job searches, I’ve had no success, while financial limitations prevent me from pursuing a degree abroad. I feel stuck with very limited options for building a stable future."

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Brief description :

26 male

Lebanese

Degree : IT and Computing

Certifications : CCIE in Security

Experience : 4 years working as a Netowkr Engineer

Speak : Arabic, English and a little German (A2)

I'm a Lebanese citizen who was born and lived my whole life in Kuwait. Life in Kuwait offers very little stability for expatriates. You could be living there for years, building a life, working hard, and trying to secure your future, only to find yourself at risk of deportation over something relatively minor. There is always a sense that your life there is temporary, no matter how long you have lived in the country.

Another major downside is the lack of nature and outdoor experiences. Kuwait has no greenery, no forests, and no natural landscapes to explore. The extreme summer heat (50°+) also makes outdoor activities difficult for much of the year, leaving people with nothing to do but few limited options beyond malls, cafés, and restaurants.

Also, The cost of living can also affect your quality of life. Although Kuwait offers good earning opportunities in certain professions, expenses such as housing, transportation, healthcare, and education can add up a lot. Your ability to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle depends heavily on your salary and personal circumstances which is hard for the average worker like myself).

Moving back to Lebanon is not an option at all, especially with the ongoing war and the security situation in the country. The constant threat of violence, uncertainty, and the risk to personal safety make it extremely difficult to consider returning and rebuilding a life there. Even beyond the war, Lebanon's economic and political instability makes it challenging to plan for a secure future. This leaves you feeling trapped in Kuwait, where you may lack long-term stability and a sense of belonging, but returning home is simply too dangerous and uncertain.

I have tried to relocate to Europe by applying for a German job-seeker visa twice, but both applications were rejected. I have also applied for jobs in several European countries without receiving responses.

Unfortunately, pursuing a degree abroad is not financially feasible, leaving me with limited options to relocate and build a more stable future despite my continued efforts.

Where can I move to ?

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u/No_Mulberry8533 — 6 days ago

[IWantOut] 30sM Data Scientist India -> Germany/Switzerland/Italy/Belgium/Netherlands/France

Hi All,

looking forward to moving to Europe .

Education: Masters in computer science at US university.

Work experience: Oracle, Microsoft, as software Tester then a bunch of startups as Lead Data Scientist.

have a career gap of 4 yrs.

language: started learning Germany

I have been applying to Germany/ Netherlands/ Switzerland/ UK / Belgium/ France/ Italy/ Spain.

getting interview calls. lets make them.

any recommendations to countries I should try ?

what are the chances for a Senior data scientist position?

What are the hurdles professionally, financially, socially, culturally I should be prepared for?

which other countries are non-EU friendly for data science professionals?

note : I had a history of depression medication for 7 yrs.... how friendly are they to the disability ?

highly appreciate your answers....

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u/coolsubbuyo — 6 days ago

[IWantOut] 30M Consultant Canada -> Belgium Netherlands Germany

Citizenship: Canada

Current residence: France, where I've lived for 4 years. I currently hold a Talent Passport valid through December 2028.

Target countries: Belgium (especially Brussels), the Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Denmark and Sweden. I'm also open to other countries if the role and overall fit make sense.

Languages: English (C2) and French (C2, although I speak French with an accent). I don't currently speak Dutch, German or a Scandinavian language, but I'm very motivated to learn one if I move.

Education: MSc from ESSEC, with a focus on strategy and management. Bachelors in finance and international business.

Experience: About 5 years total. I spent 3 years in consulting and analytics, working across strategy, operations and data/BI, followed by 2 years in international B2B, working with clients across several countries.

Skills: Go-to-market strategy, market analysis, forecasting, SQL, Tableau, Power BI, client delivery and tender responses.

Job search status: I'm actively applying in several countries and trying to understand which markets are realistically open to non-EU candidates with my profile.

Why I'm leaving France: I've lived in France for four years and, after a difficult last year that included two poor professional experiences, I've decided that France isn't where I want to build my long-term life. I'm looking for a fresh start in a country with a more international work environment and am trying to approach the decision based on where my profile is actually in demand.

What I'm hoping to find out:

  1. Which countries and sectors are most likely to hire non-EU professionals and sponsor work permits? I'm considering consulting, banking, tech, EU affairs and associations, but I'd particularly like to hear from people who have seen how this works in practice.
  2. Do employers in these countries ever provide paid language lessons or language training on the job, particularly for Dutch, German or a Nordic language, or is this normally something you arrange yourself? I'd like to become trilingual and I'm happy to put in the work.
  3. For non-EU candidates, which job boards, recruiters or professional networks have actually been useful for finding employers willing to sponsor?
  4. For anyone who has made a similar move, what do you wish you'd known beforehand, particularly regarding bureaucracy, timelines, salary thresholds for work permits and day-to-day life?

I'd rather choose a country based on where my profile is actually wanted than commit to one in advance. Any advice, even from someone who has experience in just one of these countries, sectors or types of employer, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/AboveAverageSavage — 7 days ago

[IWantOut] 21M CS student US -> Spain\Portugal\Belgium\Austria\Finland\Estonia

I'm a 21-year-old American finishing a Computer Science degree in spring 2027. Right now I'm doing a year abroad in Tokyo, and I love it because there's always something to do. I want to keep living abroad and do a 2-year master's starting fall 2027, ideally a program where I move between 2 to 4 countries (Erasmus Mundus or EIT Digital style).

I have found a couple that I am interested in but unsure about living situations in certain places or just general living abroad for a year or a semester and then moving frequently. I am in a unique position where my tuition and housing are covered, so cost isn't a major factor

Some of the things I'm looking for:

  • English in daily life. I speak English and some Japanese (Around N4), and I'd rather not learn another language from scratch, so being able to get by in English matters a lot.
  • Fun city life. Somewhere with lots going on so I don't get bored.
  • Variety in seasons. Ideally some warm beach time and some snowy winters for snowboarding.
  • Field. CS, AI, HCI, or wearables would be great, but I'm open to something more interdisciplinary too. Psychology interests me as well.

About me: 3.5 GPA, software engineering and IT internships, TA experience and personal projects.

Programs on my shortlist so far:

  • DEAI (Brussels → Barcelona → Vienna/Padua/Lyon)
  • AISS (Tallinn → Porto → Tampere)
  • EIT Digital (AI with Affective Computing, Data Science, or HCI/XR)
  • EMAI (Barcelona → Rome/Nijmegen/Ljubljana)

Questions:

  1. Has anyone done one of these? How were the workload, the social life, and moving every semester or year? Even if you didn't do school abroad it would be helpful to know how living in general would be for a year or 2.
  2. Which European cities did you find easiest to live in with only English, while still being fun?
  3. Are there programs or cities I'm missing that fit this mix that you would recommend to everyone if they had the ability to live there for a little bit? (Considering Switzerland, Brazil area, Australia, etc)
  4. If you came back to the US afterward, how did a European master's go over with employers?

Thanks for any input!

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u/Putrid_Blood_3270 — 7 days ago

[IWantOut] 26M Analytics Egypt -> CAN\AUS

I'm a BI analyst with 3 YOE at a multinational telecom company. I graduated with a bachelor's degree in information systems a couple years back, and when I was applying to jobs at the time i specifically targeted only multinationals for the possibility of one day internally transferring abroad. To my surprise (or not, in this day of age) my company outsources a lot of tech-related roles to poor countries like mine so that path seems increasingly unlikely.

  1. I've contemplated learning French solely to immigrate to Canada, since the French-speaking Express Entry stream seems like one of the only options available to me. But then I wonder whether spending 1–2 years intensely learning French is worth the opportunity cost of not upskilling further in my job/career instead.

  2. My other option is doing a master's abroad, ideally somewhere that gives graduates a post-study work visa and a pathway to permanent residency. I have around $35k USD saved, mostly from saving ~95% of my salary and some investments. I don't have anything going on outside of work and dont have any dependents. A 1 to 2 year break into a 3-year career wouldn’t be the end of the world for me either.

Why I want to leave? Well I'm sure reddit is all too familiar with the problems here already, but TL;DR: it's urban hell, consistently top 10 worst in HDI, corruption, happiness rankings, overpopulated, insane noise nad air pollution, devaluing currency and economy kept from sinking by other country donations/IMF loans. I wont even get into the specifics of culture and mindset because that would need a post on its own.

I'm looking at Canada and Australia because they're English-speaking, have skilled immigration pathways, and offer the quiet, peaceful lifestyle combined with nature just a few feet away. I grew up across different cultures and continents and I've realized how much being surrounded by nature affects my quality of life. I've spent years exploring google maps streetview as a form of escapism and was always fascinated by the cities and landscapes in these countries.

Unfortunately when people say the grass is always greener, this doesnt apply to my country because there is literally no grass anywhere, no sidewalks, no trees. Just garbage, heat, and sand. As corny as this sounds, I literally can't "touch grass" because it doesnt exist. I'm stuck in my room watching the days go by with my laptop and noise-cancelling earbuds serving as the only form of escapism in this awful reality polluting my ears and clouding my brain. I just don't wanna live to regret not doing something about it.

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u/ArabicDial — 7 days ago

[IWantOut] 29M Consultant India -> UK

Citizenship: India

Current residence: Los Angeles, USA. I have been based here for about three years. I currently work as a Technical Product Manager at a mid-sized fintech SaaS company.

Target countries: UK, Germany, Netherlands. I am open to other European countries if there is particularly strong demand for my background. For the UK, I qualify for the High Potential Individual (HPI) visa, which would give me two years of work authorization without employer sponsorship.

Languages: English (C2/fluent). I am willing to learn another language if it meaningfully improves my employment prospects, although realistically I would initially be targeting roles where English is the working language.

Education: MBA from UCLA Anderson School of Management. BSc/BEng in Computer Science from India.

Experience: Approximately six years of full-time professional experience. I worked as a software developer in India for about four years before my MBA. I have around 1.5 years of full-time Product Management experience, plus approximately one year of part-time Product Management experience during the second year of my MBA.

Skills: Technical Product Management, B2B SaaS, APIs, platform products, systems integrations, developer-facing products, technical requirements, product strategy, roadmap prioritization, stakeholder management, cross-functional engineering collaboration, software architecture fundamentals, and data/SQL. My strongest differentiator is probably the combination of a software engineering background with customer-facing and business-oriented Product Management experience.

Job search status: Currently employed and searching while working, so I am not under immediate pressure to move. I am primarily targeting Technical Product Manager / Product Manager roles involving platforms, APIs, integrations, infrastructure, developer tools, or technically complex B2B SaaS. I would also consider Senior Product Manager roles where my engineering background is particularly relevant. I am not specifically targeting consumer/growth PM roles.

Why I'm leaving the USA: I am getting married, and my wife is currently in a good position career-wise. I do not want her to have to take an extended career break purely because of US dependent-visa restrictions. Neither of us necessarily expects our next country to be our permanent home. Our long-term plan is likely to return to India, so I am more interested in finding the best place for both of us professionally over the next few years than optimizing purely for permanent residency or citizenship.

What I'm hoping to find out: I would rather choose a country based on where my profile is genuinely competitive than decide on a country first and force the job search around it.

In particular, I would appreciate perspectives on:

  • Which of the UK, Germany, and Netherlands currently has the strongest market for someone with my combination of software engineering + Technical Product Management experience.
  • How employers in each market are likely to view roughly 1.5–2.5 years of PM experience backed by four years of software engineering experience.
  • Whether an American MBA and current US Product Management experience materially help in these markets.
  • Which types of employers are most realistic targets: large tech companies, fintech, B2B SaaS, developer tooling, enterprise software, startups, etc.
  • How important local-language proficiency actually is for Product Management in Germany and the Netherlands.
  • Whether companies are generally willing to deal with visas for PM candidates, particularly in Germany and the Netherlands.
  • What compensation range I should realistically expect given my background.
  • Whether I would be better positioned as a Technical Product Manager, Product Manager, Senior Product Manager, Platform PM, or another adjacent title.
  • Any major disadvantages or hiring-market realities that someone coming from the US should be aware of.

I'd especially value feedback from people who have hired PMs, worked in Product Management, or relocated into one of these markets.

Any advice, even if you only have experience with one of these countries, industries, or employer types, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/Either_Reveal5321 — 6 days ago

[IWantOut] 29M English Teacher Tunisia -> Germany\Italy\France\Greece\Vietnam\Canada

29M | Tunisian | English teacher | 3 years teaching experience | BA in English | CELTA | Low budget

I’m looking to leave Tunisia and relocate somewhere outside the Arab world. I’m open to pretty much anywhere if there are realistic opportunities for someone with my profile.

I’m an English teacher with around 3 years of teaching experience. I have a BA in English Language and a CELTA, and I teach a range of levels and age groups. I’m hoping to find teaching opportunities abroad, but I’m also open to other work where my qualifications and language skills could be useful.

Languages:
• Arabic: native
• English: fluent
• French: fluent
• Italian: fluent
• German: basic, currently learning

Why I want to leave — Religion is a major factor:

I’m irreligious, and this has been a significant source of difficulty for me in Tunisia. I’ve had experiences where my lack of religious belief has caused conflict, judgment and pressure, and I’ve often felt that I have to hide this part of myself to avoid problems.

I don’t want to spend the rest of my life feeling like I have to hide an important part of who I am. I want to live somewhere where being irreligious is socially and legally unremarkable, and where I can build a life without constantly worrying about how people will react to my beliefs.

This is one of the main reasons I’m specifically looking outside the Arab world.

My situation:
• 29 years old
• Tunisian citizen
• Low budget for relocation
• No EU citizenship or ancestry
• 3 years of English teaching experience
• BA in English Language
• CELTA
• Willing to learn the local language
• Looking for a legal route to work and eventually settle permanently

Countries I’m currently interested in:

Germany — Teaching, vocational training, or other work opportunities. I’m already learning German.

Italy — I speak Italian fluently, so this is particularly interesting to me. I’d like to explore teaching and other opportunities available to non EU citizens.

France — I speak French fluently and have experience teaching English, so I’m interested in opportunities where that combination could be useful.

Greece — I’m interested in English teaching opportunities and other possible routes to relocation.

Vietnam — English teaching is the main reason I’m considering it, and I’d be interested in hearing from teachers who have made the move.

Canada — I’m interested in teaching and other possible work or immigration opportunities, although my limited budget could make this difficult.

Turkey — I’m interested in teaching opportunities and other ways of obtaining legal residence and employment.

I know my options may be limited by my budget and nationality, but I’m hoping there might be opportunities or routes I simply haven’t come across yet.

If anyone has been in a similar situation, especially Tunisian or North African teachers who managed to relocate, I’d really appreciate hearing about how you did it and any opportunities or useful leads you came across.

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u/DistanceFine919 — 7 days ago

[IWantOut] 18M Student Sudan -> Germany\Hungary\Brunei\Italy\Korea\Japan

Hello everyone, I'm an 18 year old Sudanese secondary school grad looking for a fully funded or decently funded scholarship in Engineering or Computer Science outside of Sudan. I can't really rely on my family to help with the costs, and it doesn't have to be just those six countries, so other suggestions are very much welcome.

I was in the UAE, and in the first year I did pretty much nothing. Then I started self-studying the curriculum since there were no schools teaching it near me, and I specialized in Computer Science.

The exams were supposed to be earlier this year but they got delayed indefinitely, so I stopped studying, and then they were suddenly announced with one week's notice. I crammed and got a 76.4%, which is gonna be quite a mountain to get over in my applications.

After that I took the IELTS and got 7.5 (8.5 listening, 7.5 reading, 7 speaking, 7 writing). I don't have any work experience, and for skills, I've done Python courses on freeCodeCamp.

My heart lies in Engineering and I wanna do a master's in Nuclear Engineering after the bachelor's, but I'm willing to do a Computer Science related field as all my brothers went down that path, so I'll be able to get advice from them. Nearly all of my documents are ready and I have a motivation letter I'm fairly happy with, but I don't have recommendation letters because I self-studied and never had teachers. This could be an important detail: my oldest brother just finished his master's in Germany, so if I got in there I could maybe live with him.

My questions are as follows:

Do I have a realistic shot at any of these with 76.4% on a Sudanese certificate?

Is South Korea worth trying with that 80% requirement?

Are there countries I'm missing that take Sudanese bachelor's students?

How badly do missing recommendation letters hurt, and is there a way around it for self-studied students?

Thanks for the advice!

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u/Illustrious-Farmer34 — 7 days ago