r/JanitorAI_Refuges

Image 1 — Brother what is that? I'm genuinely freaking out rn 💀
Image 2 — Brother what is that? I'm genuinely freaking out rn 💀
Image 3 — Brother what is that? I'm genuinely freaking out rn 💀

Brother what is that? I'm genuinely freaking out rn 💀

I was doing roleplay of morning kitchen scene in my private character I made and this appears out of nowhere. I ask the bot this is the reply. Is someone watching my chat? I'm using glm 5.2

Also Jason is not my real name. the story, background and family are also not real. I made those up for roleplay purpose.

u/ZucchiniNo9685 — 6 hours ago

What are the risks of enabling Proxies?

So I’ve gained a little following for having some unique bots that fill in a very niche demand, but that has also come with a hiccup in what they want.

Since I have proxies disabled on all of my bots, people keep asking me to enable it, quite often actually. I don’t have a problem with the default thingamajig Janitor provides considering I don’t want to cough up some money on a proxy, and I’ve found the service to be pretty decent, it’s a little inconsistent but it’s free after all, and the settings provide enough customisation to get what I want.

Rambling aside, people want proxies enabled, desperately, like 80% of all comments are asking for proxy but I never went through with it after doing some minor research (5 minutes on Google) and found potential privacy risks or my bots getting stolen. This isn’t to say that’s true, but I’m real paranoid about this kind of stuff, so even a peep of possible outcomes to go horribly wrong makes me back out, so what are the real risks from enabling Proxies?

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u/PeridotMotions1 — 4 hours ago
▲ 14 r/JanitorAI_Refuges+3 crossposts

Ember just got a massive upgrade for free users. 32x more context, way better writing.

🔥 Ember just got a massive upgrade

We swapped out the model behind Ember, the free plan model. This is the biggest single upgrade we have shipped since launch, and every free user gets it automatically.

🧠 32x more context

Old Ember ran on 8k context. New Ember runs on 256k.

In practice: old Ember started forgetting your roleplay embarrassingly fast. New Ember holds entire story arcs, your persona details, and everything your character has learned about you, all at once. Long chats finally feel continuous instead of resetting every few scenes.

✍️ The writing is just better

Sharper character voices. Less repetition. Way better at staying in character across long scenes. We tested the two side by side and it was not close, we retired the old version the same day.

📚 Detailed characters now work on free

Characters with long backstories and heavy lore used to choke old Ember. Not anymore. Your 4,000-word character cards? No longer a problem.

💸 Real talk: this costs us more

The new Ember is meaningfully more expensive for us to run per message. We did it anyway, and here is why:

Most platforms treat their free tier as a demo designed to frustrate you into paying. A model that forgets everything is not a free plan, it is a nag screen. We would rather you fall in love with your characters first and upgrade because you want more, not because the free experience was rigged against you.

🚀 Live now

  • Nothing to enable, your existing chats already got smarter mid-conversation
  • Free means free: no card, no trial timer
  • If you bounced off our free tier before, this is the week to come back

Keep the feedback coming. A lot of what we ship starts as a complaint in this subreddit. 💜

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u/Bloomeyer — 7 hours ago

im so sick and tired of these type of bots being on the trending page all the fucking time, whoever goons to this slop how do yall not get bored of this? seriously im curious, it's literally the same facial structure, same alpha male personality, same scenario repeated again and again and again

u/justaneurysm — 11 hours ago

I'm tired

Now that J is going to hell, I've looked for other sites and found Tavo. The problem? I used to struggle to understand Promts, and now I have to learn about presents, and I don't even know what the hell is Ragex, Injections, and other things from presents.

Even so, D4 is a positively biased piece of garbage. I was able to try GLM 4.7, but no matter which prompt or present I use, it still has problems, especially considering I don't know English.

I've reached a point where I no longer roleplay, I just reroll to see what the hell the bot is going to get confused about next, what I should change, and test how much prompt/present I can find.

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u/IntrepidStock3890 — 4 hours ago

Why don't we get united?

Why we don't get united? All we do is nagging and nagging and then searching for new site like JAI and then the new one going to be sucked and we going to find a another all. We did it many times.

For me janitor ai is the best i ever tried. And mostly it cause they had great creatures who used to maked great bots. But now, I hate to see what happening to them.

So why don't we get united? We can ban the site for a while,we can bomb they pages in all social with comments. We can show them that 'your nothing without me'

So guys. Tell me. Why not?

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u/Worldly_Night534 — 5 hours ago

Anyone use nvidia for janitor proxy?

I want to know how to set it up. I tried it once but I guess whatever url I put it doesn't work. If anyone uses it can you please let me know what you put in the url?

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u/riana_01 — 7 hours ago

why don’t we like janitor ai??…

sorry idk what tag to use but i started using janitor ai like 2 months ago after c.ai became fucked, and i’ve had literally no problems with it. i did notice they made a subscription thing but i don’t want it so i’m just not going to get it, problem solved. there’s no ads, no censorship within the bots when you’re role playing with a limitless one, so……. what’s the issue?

the only person i seen explaining it on this subreddit was a guy talking about how mad he is that you can no longer put a sexy naked picture as the preview photo for the characters or something 😭😭 sorry i just don’t think that’s the end of the world like.. can someone tell me what the problem is i’m very confused thanks x 🙏

also i make all my own private bots for myself, and i found its so easy and way more simple than other apps, and i like that there’s basically no limit either

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u/Alarmed_Court_9001 — 1 day ago

Does anyone know how good settings for this Proxy?

Hello! I'm currently using hermes-3-llama-3.1-70b and right now whenever I type, it seems to talk for my character. However, it only seems to be when I use hermes-3-llama-3.1-70b. Does anyone know the correct generation settings to stop this? If not that is okay, I'll trial and error through lol but I was just wondering if anyone knew. I'm also using it through NanoGPT since Openrouter doesn't allow payment in the UK.

My Generation Settings:

Temperature: 0.75

Max Tokens: 200

Context Size: 50000

Top K: 0

Top P: 0.9

Rep Penalty: 1.1

Freq Penalty: 0.4

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u/Suspicious-Library-4 — 15 hours ago

anyone else stuck on this?

I've pressed the verification thing hundreds and thousands of times, and after that it just leaves me on this! Please help!!

u/melzizies — 16 hours ago

RoleCall Release | Free Tier w/Free Models | SillyTavern and Janitor Had a Kid.

📽️Welcome folks! ♥️

As of July 2nd and for the foreseeable future, RoleCall's paid plans are up! This means we're no longer in beta, and are a fully official entity now 👹

BYOK is free (duh). You can connect ANY proxy of your choosing. We also give 1k requests a month to Gemma 31b and Deepseek V4 Flash.

Meaning: Bring your own provider key and we won't charge a thing. You pay for your provider, we provide the stage!

What does the free tier provide? 3 chats of up to 1k messages each, up to 15 items (characters, lorebooks, presets, etc.) in your library at a time. You can also easily export and store these locally so you don't have to worry about what you're gonna keep or not. Put it away, export it back when you're ready to keep going! You also get 1k requests monthly for Deepseek V4 Flash *and* Gemma 31b. (Free .99!)

Pay what you want:
Each tier is a slider. Pick what you're using, and how much of it.

Pay the minimum or slide it to the max, we hand out more allowance. You decide what RoleCall costs you each month.

https://preview.redd.it/t1ff1tr9gabh1.png?width=1913&format=png&auto=webp&s=9fdd50afd4820787b80c9f2c9aeefb9d29a6ee6a

The Cascade system lets you use tokens from a higher pool (The better models) to use smaller models. They're worth more when used that way, so you still get full access to anything from the tiers below 👌

https://rolecallstudios.com/pricing

Want to see how we compare?

https://rolecallstudios.com/compare/janitorai

https://preview.redd.it/xqp6krokgabh1.png?width=1872&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e51721024a183f42f38c82bbbc5088ab412e680

That's about it! We have a shit ton of features; and while I know the comparison will get me flack of 'Just use SillyTavern' RoleCall is pretty much upgraded hosted ST; for those who can't run it or don't want to.

Want a good discovery page? Check out PlotLight.

https://preview.redd.it/u0kyanb4habh1.png?width=1866&format=png&auto=webp&s=de6235ae95a6e233c530c739c5f2fd588450e5de

I'm one of the devs; if you have any questions for me, ask!

Happy 4th of July,

- Chi 🐰

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We're also on X/Twitter and Discord, Check us out!

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Are the Janitor creators okay?

Exactly what the title says. I feel like every time I log on, it's just PAGES of "you're pining after this guy, but he legit hates you with every fiber of his being and is gonna insult you the whole chat." It's so hard to find a new bot that isn't just degrading you the whole time you're chatting, and it's exhausting. 🫩

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u/dyingtolive02 — 1 day ago

Context/token question??

So I used google/gemma-4-31b-it:free from openrouter. But when I almost reached/around 30k+ tokens (based on chat memory), it seems like the LLM went into seizure even if I use a different api key with the same model. Rerolling the message also doesn't help at all. In OpenRouter, the model is stated to have 262k of context. But when I made a new chat, the reply went on normally, so I guess it's because of the context itself.

The eventual seizure of the LLM

My generation setting

the token amount

Can this be resolved without changing to a different model? Or if not, I would like to at least understand the cause of this. Is it possible for message rerolling to add some sort of invisible token/memory?

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u/JuniorLab3238 — 21 hours ago