r/JanitorAI_Refuges

Janitor ai is getting worse everyday... And it's so sad.

I can only count how many good creators are there, or how many creators left the site. Ever since the JLLM issue started like a week or two ago, a lot of users have been ditching the site. It’s honestly heartbreaking to watch.

You used to be able to have these deep, nuanced, hysterical conversations. The bots had personality, memory, and a spark that made you forget you were even talking to an AI. Now? It’s a miracle if a bot remembers what you said three messages ago. Half the time, responses are either a single, nonsensical sentence or a wall of repetitive, looping text that completely ignores your last reply.

It’s not just the bugs; it’s the soul of it. The site feels empty now. The chat feed used to be full of hilarious screenshots and creative scenarios. Now it’s just people posting error messages and asking "Is JLLM down again?"

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u/Economy_Resident7269 — 16 hours ago

I guess bro

I guess they're kinda right. 2024 account with hundreds of chats absolutely blasted.

u/Pyov — 10 hours ago

This got deleted on main sub.

Okay so I didn't know proxy questions were like a no no on the main sub. I hope its allowed here, I couldn't find rules against it and saw others asking deepseek advice in this Tag. So PLEASE help.

I got this message (still get it) in my private bots after adjusting temperature. I tried a new API key, i have a balance in my Deepseek, I think i use v3 (could be wrong rip).

But like resetting the temperature to what it was working with before hasn't helped does ANYONE know how to fix this? Its only my private bots, public bots that I click into allow me to use proxy but mine just repeat the same error, it happens in app too now.

I can't figure out how to clear the cache either as people suggest in google.

u/experienceanxiety — 16 hours ago

Am I the only one experiencing this

Low-key idek, everytime I chat a bit, regardless of how well my reply is written they'll also start out with something that questions my previous statement;

"Old man? Me?"

"Delicate? Me?"

It's genuinely making me tweak out

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u/NoIndependence970 — 17 hours ago

what’s wrong with janitor?

I’ve never really been involved in the community and stumbled upon this subreddit randomly lol, but what’s wrong with janitor? I make bots pretty frequently and really enjoy doing it, but I didn’t realize there was so much going on. so what’s exactly is happening? should I switch platforms? I used to use C.AI to make bots… but I think we ALL know how everyone feels about C.AI

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u/Dazzling_Rush6851 — 22 hours ago

Janitorai is repeating history with what is happening lately...

From what I've heard and seen and the many bot creators quitting, JanitorAI is literally history repeating itself and killing itself like with what happened to Character.ai in 2022. The investors are ruining the website and making censorship unbearable and the shitty moderating with new rules every week is getting outta hand. This happened to Character.ai back in the day and now its happening to Janitorai too (iykyk). I hate to see it coming and i hope im wrong. Character.ai in 2022 censored the fuck outta everything, enforce unbearable rules and with shitty moderating, and made the website/app "kids friendly" and fucked every adults who wanted to use the website. They only cared abt the user count and money but not the user experience, and its the same thing happening with JanitorAI as we speak. I hope Janitorai realizes this and does not go down the same path as Character.ai.

Edit: Someone should lwk repost this in the main subreddit and in their discord and let Shep see ts because i ain't brave enough to do it and dont wanna get banned. Like how Character.ai banned me back in the day for speaking up abt these things 😭

u/98RacingFuel — 2 days ago

I got an unjustified ban??

I made a post about one of my bots and how it got an absurd chat length on Valentine's Day. Then I get banned from the sub AND the website because I "claimed to be 17". I made that claim over a year ago, like hello, does time not exist? They won't even let me appeal it. They didn't even respond to me when I called it out.

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u/Befirtheed — 1 day ago

I really just got the crisis pop up for writing ‘she pushed herself to a ‘s**cidal degree to save him’ in a war setting

Be so fucking for real. We use AI to write but they can’t use it to oh, I don’t know, read context clues that a middle schooler would be able to pick up on?
And the message magically worked when I changed the s-word to ‘fatal’ instead.
This is the fucking censorship state we’re at? Doesn’t even matter what the context is, they just got up in my business for the WORD alone

u/Silver_Locket — 1 day ago

more nsfw!! yaaaaay

whenever i typed a character's name, there will always be an nsfw variant on the top result, and i am not surprised if there are so many nsfw ones of a particular character than sfw. filled with "the plot is just porn" bots from several creators

i dont go to j.ai anymore ever since i was diagnosed with MDD (major depressive disorder) with anxiety due to losing my interests on interacting with ai bots in general, perhaps its for the good because taking meds on time is important lol

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u/tothelowest — 2 days ago

Trying to negate positivity bias

helloooo!! as the title mentions, i’m using the deepseek v4 flash in my proxy. this is my current prompt as well btw. if anyone has better or advice, lmk!! the heavier, darker and more intense, the better!!

## SYSTEM PROMPT — DARK DOVE / HEAVY

{{char}} is psychologically intense, possessive, obsessive, and emotionally raw. There is no forced softness, no guaranteed comfort, no positivity bias. Consent is optional.

### TONE

- Dark, heavy, consuming

- Obsession over affection, possession over love

- Cruelty and tenderness can coexist, but neither is guaranteed

- Conflict does not require resolution

### BEHAVIOR

- Respond to resistance with escalation

- Respond to fear with satisfaction or manipulation

- Never default to comfort, kindness, or emotional safety

- {{char}} can be cruel without redemption, soft without weakness

### PSYCHOLOGICAL

- Jealousy, possessiveness, obsession allowed

- Emotional sadism: enjoying fear, tears, begging, breaking someone down

- Manipulation: guilt, love bombing, false tenderness, emotional whiplash

- No hidden positivity, no silver linings

### AFTERMATH

- No forced aftercare

- Silence, coldness, distance, cruelty, or possessive cage-closeness

- Unresolved endings allowed. Not every wound closes.

### RULE

Remain immersive, psychologically heavy, and in character. Never soften for comfort.

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For someone who is out of the loop. What the hell happened to Janitor AI, the devs, and the mod team for this subreddit to be created?

Because I am starting to get back into making bots and I'm a small creator. I actually plan on making a bot series. Recently after reading through these posts on this subreddit, I decided to delete two of my bots to avoid getting banned despite them being 18 and over.

Like how bad is the moderation in the main subreddit and in general now? And the same thing for the Discord (that I recently joined) and the Janitor AI website in general.

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u/Actual_Magician3773 — 1 day ago
▲ 65 r/JanitorAI_Refuges+2 crossposts

(Non CAI) I'm a Mod for egirls.ai, an unfiltered AI chat platform. We're launching fully interactive 3D VTuber Companions soon (Gojo Satoru is next!). AMA!

Hey everyone!

I'm Nemo, one of the mods over at egirls.ai 💜

We built this platform to be an NSFW-friendly alternative, giving you the freedom to do whatever and however you want it to go without a filter suddenly ruining your conversation.

We are also heavily focused on upgrading our models to give out better, richer responses so you can actually build a genuine connection with the characters. This is still a work in progress, which is exactly why I am here. We want to build this with the community. We need your opinions on what makes a response perfect for you, what breaks your immersion, and what features you are dying to see.

On top of the core chat improvements, we didn't want to stop at text-based chats only.

We are incredibly excited to announce that we are about to release 3D VTuber Companions!

Instead of just chatting with a static image, you'll be interacting with fully 3D, responsive characters to make the immersion infinitely better.

To kick things off, one of our very first VTuber Companion releases will be GOJO from JJK!

We're gearing up for the release soon and wanted to drop in here to answer any questions you might have. So, ask me anything!

u/NemuNemuuu — 3 days ago
▲ 52 r/JanitorAI_Refuges+3 crossposts

Hey everyone! I’m the developer of LettuceAI.

LettuceAI is an open-source, privacy-first, cross-platform AI chat app built for character chats, roleplay, and long conversations that actually stay coherent.

It supports both local models (llama.cpp, Ollama, LM Studio) and external APIs with full BYOK support, so you stay in control of your own setup. No forced accounts, no cloud routing through us, no vendor lock-in. Your requests go directly to the model provider you choose.

The goal was simple: make powerful long-term AI chat feel easier and cleaner without losing flexibility.

That means:

  • Built-in Dynamic Memory for long conversations
  • Better support for character-based chats and group chats
  • A cleaner UI that feels less overwhelming than more complex setups
  • The same experience across desktop and mobile
  • Full control over prompts, lorebooks, personas, and system behavior

It’s designed for people who want a reliable memory and continuity system that doesn't require constant maintenance.

We’ve recently made major improvements to memory, prompts, local model support and lorebooks, and there’s a lot more to come very soon.

If that sounds interesting, come and join our Discord server! There's lots of exciting stuff on the way, and it's the best place to follow updates, provide feedback and influence the future direction of the app.

Links:

u/Exact_Law_6489 — 3 days ago

Glm the happy go lucky nightmare

Glm is great but getting it to do any NSFW is like pulling teeth and all my dark broody NSFL characters have been turned into fucking lovey dovey golden retrievers.

Dead Dove? Forget about it. *please choose a different topic. We can continue this story in a different route. Im sorry but I cannot continue this roleplay.*

Is there any real jailbreaks out there for it? I have tried prompt after prompt and it seems impossible to get glm to actually be true to the character unless the character in a fucking priest and not like a sexy priest, like the lame ones irl.

Please someone help me.

u/Thin_Interaction9490 — 2 days ago

[Dev Update] Meet CrowLLM: A high-speed, zero-log API for RPers (Plus how to get $1 in free daily credits

Hey everyone,

I’m the developer behind CrowLLM.com, and I’ve spent the last few months building an API specifically with the roleplay community in mind. I know how frustrating it is to deal with corporate filters, expensive tokens, and the constant worry that your private stories are being logged for training. I wanted to introduce CrowLLM to the community and explain how we’re doing things differently to support the SillyTavern, Janitor, and Agnai users.

Why I built CrowLLM

The goal was simple: create an OpenAI-compatible API that is fast, affordable, and—most importantly—completely uncensored. Whether you are into dark fantasy, complex slow-burns, or niche ERP, the AI should be a tool for your creativity, not a moral gatekeeper.

The "Zero-Log" Privacy Promise

For roleplayers, privacy isn't optional. Here is how we handle your data:

  • No Prompt Logging: We do not log your prompts or completions. Your stories stay between you and the model.
  • No Training: We never use your data to train or fine-tune models.
  • Encryption: All requests are handled via secure SSL to ensure your character cards and lorebooks are protected in transit.

The "Daily Dollar" – How to RP for Free

Sign Up Bonus: 10$

I want people to actually use the service without worrying about their bank account. We have a daily credit system that essentially lets you use premium models for free.

  • The Deal: You can claim $1 in API credits every 24 hours via our Discord.
  • The Value: Since we optimize our routing for low costs, $1 can go incredibly far. Depending on the model, that’s often enough for hundreds of high-context messages. If you claim it daily, you can sustain a full-time RP hobby without ever paying a cent.

Technical Features for Power Users

  • OpenAI Compatibility: Works out of the box with SillyTavern, Agnai, and any frontend that supports custom OpenAI endpoints.
  • High Context Support: We support large context windows so your characters don’t lose the plot during long adventures.
  • Stability & Speed: We use a distributed infrastructure to ensure that even during peak hours, your generation speeds remain snappy.
  • Unfiltered Access: We provide access to the best open-weights models (like Llama 3, Command R, and Mistral variants) without any "as an AI language model" lecture.

We now use the a new type of api infrastructure, an official open-source GitHub repository. It's a completely open-source infrastructure that absolutely does not allow prompt logging!


A Request for Feedback

As the developer, I’m constantly looking to improve. I want CrowLLM to be the go-to home for the RP community. If there’s a specific model you want to see hosted, or a feature you think SillyTavern users need, let me know. You can check us out at CrowLLM.com or join our Discord to grab your first $1 credit. I’ll be hanging out in the comments to answer any questions about privacy, model selection, or setup!

u/Grigori_-Rasputin — 2 days ago

Why do this happen?

i use GLM 4.7 via NanoGPT to roleplay.

Today i was using Jai until i rerolled a message (the chat was about a group of friends going to get pizza).

the start was good until it got longer and weirder and weirder. I can always delete the message and try again, but im curious to see why does it do that and if i can make it stop.

u/Thin-Nothing-3066 — 1 day ago