r/LifeCoachSnark

An "out of integrity nugget" from my brain today, regarding the coaching industry:

Coaching programs encourage new coaches to "charge their worth," which as another post today was sharing is sometimes upwards of $297. Interestingly in these same programs, usually the coaches in training do hour swaps, where they all coach each other. In our program we had to charge each other $100 a session. The only group making money on this was paypal.

Coaches coaching coaches (aka certification programs) are often upwards of $10k-ish. Stack that up and the owner or lead coach is making decent money.

But yet, when the coach who coaches coaches fills up her (usually her) "mentor coach" spots, in my experience, they get paid next to nothing. In ours, we got a very measily $300 a month (6 months), room and board at a weekend retreat, and very rarely we "got" to coach a trainee for $100 a session. The monthly rate covered doing weekly group calls with our small group, answering emails, reviewing transcripts, doing break outs on the weekly big call, basically full responsibility for our small group of trainees during their time in the program.

And, the biggest payout we got was $1500 for referring someone IF they "graduated." The affiliate payout was bigger than any monthly payment as a mentor.

In other words, the lead/owner was bringing in the cash, and she basically got free labor from her leadership team. The messaging was "you're lucky to get to do this, because you can't do this anywhere else."

This doesn't align with "charge your worth," or set any sort of example for the other trainees. It's not living your truth or playing big. It's the opposite of all of those things. It says you're the best and brightest BUT.... there's no business plan for this outside of the coaching pyramid. You're one of the examples in the field BUT..... you'll make $2000 this year for doing this, while the owner / lead brings in over $200k

It was more brain washing. It's pure and simple an MLM. We were all downstream for this person, because we were deeply incentived to bring in more people. If you complained, you were out. If you criticized or offered suggestions, you got a word salad of rebuttal similar to Shoshanna's BS.

I don't know why anyone does life coach training, any more. Even as a solo coach in the field - the math doesn't work.

Any experience with her? She’s the lady who makes those videos about the universe and energetics. Pretty viral.

A few years ago I bought a ton of courses from her and did her group program.

At this point I knew life coaches were a scam but I thought “spirituality” would help me “manifest.”

During her program she talked about getting a check in the mail randomly and I actually did get one! It was a stimulus check I never received from years prior.

I thought her program worked and even did a testimonial.

A few months later the IRS contacted me letting me know it was a mistake and to send the money back immediately. I thought it was a scam and I ignored it. Months later they put interest on it and threatened to put a lien on my property (I have none lmao) if I didn’t pay.

That’s when I realized her programs were a scam!