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LTD insurer now agrees I was disabled — but denying claim under pre-existing condition clause. Need ERISA/LTD advice.

TL;DR:
Insurance company originally denied my LTD claim saying there wasn’t enough evidence I was disabled during the elimination period. After appeal and additional records, they now agree I was unable to work due to substance-related psychiatric impairment and residential treatment — but are now denying payment under a pre-existing condition clause. I’m trying to determine whether this is a potentially winnable ERISA/LTD appeal and whether a clarification letter from my prior psychiatrist could realistically help.

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Location: New York / Florida (ERISA employer-sponsored LTD policy)

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I’m looking for advice from anyone familiar with LTD appeals, ERISA, disability insurance, or pre-existing condition disputes.

I worked full-time as a First Aid & Safety Sales Representative for a Fortune 500 company beginning May 2025. My LTD coverage became effective June 13, 2025 after the waiting period.

My job involved extensive driving, territory management, customer interaction, organization, independent scheduling, emotional regulation, and maintaining a demanding workload with minimal supervision.

I stopped working September 26, 2025.

The core issue is this:

The insurance company has since agreed that I was in fact functionally impaired and unable to work due to substance-related psychiatric impairment and ongoing residential treatment. However, they are now denying payment under the policy’s pre-existing condition clause.

Timeline:

- Prior to this job, I had completed opioid treatment in 2023 and remained abstinent from opioids afterward.
- Before and during the early part of my employment, I was being treated for anxiety/depression/PTSD by “Psychiatrist A.”
- During that same period, Psychiatrist A prescribed Valium and later Fioricet (contains butalbital/barbiturate).
- Over time, the Valium/barbiturate use escalated significantly and my occupational functioning deteriorated.
- I eventually entered detox and then residential treatment specifically due to the escalating sedative/barbiturate dependence and resulting functional impairment.

The insurance company originally denied LTD claiming there was insufficient evidence I was disabled during the elimination period.

I appealed and submitted:
- therapist records
- treatment records
- detox records
- residential treatment records
- outpatient addiction medicine records
- pharmacy history
- statements from current treatment providers

After reviewing the additional records, the insurer’s own addiction psychiatry reviewer changed his opinion and agreed that I was functionally impaired and unable to work.

One important detail:

During earlier communications, the insurer initially appeared to characterize the claim as opioid-related and suggested that opioid dependence was part of the pre-existing condition analysis.

I clarified that I had remained abstinent from opioids since 2023 and that the treatment at issue was specifically related to escalating dependence on prescribed Valium and Fioricet/butalbital.

After that clarification, the insurer shifted focus and stated that the pre-existing issue was instead anxiety/depression/PTSD treatment during the policy lookback period.

Their current position is essentially:
- anxiety/depression/PTSD existed before coverage,
- therefore the later disability is considered part of the same condition.

My position is:
- yes, I had pre-existing anxiety/depression diagnoses,
- BUT I was actively working and functioning after coverage began,
- and the disabling condition developed later through escalating dependence on prescribed Valium and Fioricet/butalbital which significantly impaired my occupational functioning and ultimately led to detox/residential treatment.

One complicating issue:

When I entered treatment, the facilities documented anxiety/depression as co-occurring diagnoses because they asked for prior diagnosis history. The insurer is now heavily relying on those diagnoses to characterize the entire disability as pre-existing.

Another complication:

The same company approved my STD claim using many of these same records, but later denied LTD claiming records were missing during the LTD process. During that delay/review period, my employer eventually terminated my employment because they could no longer hold my position.

Another major complication:

“Psychiatrist A” was also the physician who prescribed the Valium and Fioricet/butalbital that later became part of the disabling substance dependence issue.

The office previously provided records during the claim process without issue, but they are now stating that any clarification/support letter would require a telehealth appointment first.

Unfortunately, I lost my employer-sponsored insurance after termination and now only have NY Medicaid, which this Florida-based office does not accept. That means I would likely need to pay out-of-pocket for the appointment.

Part of my hesitation is:
- I do not know whether the psychiatrist would actually agree to write the clarification letter,
- and even if she did, I do not know whether the insurer would consider it sufficient to overcome the pre-existing condition determination.

So I’m trying to determine whether pursuing that route is strategically worthwhile before spending additional money and time.

I currently have about a week to respond to the latest appeal position.

I’m considering asking my prior psychiatric provider for a clarification/support letter explaining:
- the anxiety/depression existed before employment but were not occupationally disabling at that time,
- I was able to work after coverage became active,
- and the later disabling impairment was driven by escalating prescribed sedative/barbiturate dependence and resulting functional decline.

My questions:

  1. Does this seem like a potentially winnable ERISA/LTD argument?

  2. Would a clarification/support letter from the psychiatric provider realistically help?

  3. Is there a meaningful distinction legally/administratively between:
    - stable pre-existing anxiety/depression
    vs.
    - later occupational impairment caused by escalating prescribed sedative/barbiturate dependence?

  4. Does the insurer’s apparent shift from initially focusing on “opioid dependence” to now focusing on anxiety/depression/PTSD raise any strategic or procedural concerns?

  5. Is there anything else strategically I should be focusing on before the final appeal decision?

My biggest concern is preserving stability in recovery while trying to navigate an increasingly technical administrative process with limited resources and time remaining.

I genuinely appreciate any insight. This process has been going on since January, and I’m trying to make the most informed decisions possible before the final appeal review.

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u/SpitOnIt_OrDont — 21 hours ago

Just got approved for Any Occupation (ERISA LTD) — Ask Me Anything

I was just approved for Any Occupation under my ERISA LTD claim after a long, stressful process — and this subreddit helped me more than I can say. The information, shared experiences, and advice here were invaluable.

Now that I’m finally on the other side, I want to give back.
If you’re dealing with denials, appeals, medical documentation issues, insurer tactics, or the Own Occ → Any Occ transition, feel free to ask me anything. I’m happy to share what worked, what didn’t, and what I learned along the way.

Here to help however I can.

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u/Silly-Mission7029 — 1 day ago

Authorization Form & Medical Record Access?

Hi,

I have a question. I am currently on LTD with UNUM. They have tried to make me sign the authorization form to give them access to all of my medical records. I wrote them a formal statement saying that I am not giving them broad access to my medical records (which I am entiteld to) and that I will continue to submit what is required for them to continue to process my claim. They have said that is fine (though they keep asking for the form).

However, here is where I am confused. They are still requesting my medical records from each of my doctors that I had listed on my form (and my doctors are submitting my notes to them). I have looked back at every form I have submitted to UNUM and do not see anywhere where I have signed anything that says that I give them permission to request my medical records in any form they have sent me.

Did I accidentally miss something or accidentally gave them access when I made an account with UNUM or is it implied in the original form somewhere that asked for my list of doctors and therefore gave them access without stating it specifically on a form? Nowhere can I find (other than the authorization form I refuse to sign) anything anywhere that states I've given them permission to do this on any form I have signed.

I've not reached out to UNUM because I don't want there to be any red flags and I am not sure if I misunderstood something here, but I've uploaded everything they've asked for and they send formal letters to me asking me for the same documents they are reaching out to my providers for, which makes no sense.

So is there an issue on their end that they don't realize that I didn't sign a form and they aren't allowed to be doing this or is there something I missed where they are entitled to do that and the broad authorization form was for other doctors or medical records? It seems like they can request whatever they want right now, which defeats the whole purpose of me not signing the form.

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u/No-Ease-6286 — 1 day ago

Being pushed to LTD as bridge for me to return to work?

Hi all, I've been dealing with some health issues for a year now, all seemingly random issues that have had me out on STD 2x this year for a total of 12 weeks. I returned from my latest STD less than a month ago and am now being encouraged by my HR department to apply for LTD after my workplace accommodations were asked and denied. The root cause of my issues has been figured out and surgery could eliminate the need for accommodations afterwards. They say this is a bridge for me to be able to return to work after surgery this fall.

Is this a trick? I've been taught that LTD is a way for them to push people out... I'm very nervous and stressed, I'm a good employee and have been there for a LONG time with no issues... I just have some medical conditions that are kicking my butt right now...

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u/mustdache — 2 days ago
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STD/LTD Pre-existing 12/12 Clause

Hello,

I am considering applying for short, then longterm voluntary disability due to a long standing medical condition. I have read that I am subject to a 12/12 pre-existing condition limitation. This includes consultation, diagnosis, prescribed medications, etc., for something an issue I have had for most of my life. Does this imply that I will never qualify for this disability, because I have had these issues for this long?

In my mind, what is the damned point in paying for this if I cannot even take advantage of this? Obviously, of course besides an acute accident, I feel like this forever rules me out of a benefit I have paid for, for almost 4 years.

Thank you for any advice!

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u/biocakeman — 4 days ago

Going through appeal right now but probability of being accepted is low

My initial application for LTD was denied, and I sent an appeal and they have not made a final decision but I received a letter of the opinion of the person reviewing my case and they did not make a final decision yet, they have to by June 6th, but they still think I’m fit for work. I have notes from my doctor and therapist stating several times I’m not fit for work and why im not and the person reviewing my case seems to be ignoring that and thinks my condition is manageable.

The company handling my case is Equitable btw. If they deny my appeal a second time what are my next steps? Do I need a lawyer involved? Can I try to apply to LTD through other means? (I’m in upstate NY). The company handling my case was through my employer who also has terminated me now.

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u/hypnoghoul — 4 days ago

LTD STD and 2yr max

Ok, so I currently have a disability insurance policy through MetLife from my employer. I have had 2 previous LTD claims that lasted about a year each including the 90 day STD elimination period. I can't seem to get an accurate explanation of the 2yr maximum regarding mental health disabilities. My most recent contact with MetLife's agents said that the maximum only stands for a maximum duration per claim per diagnosis. But previous contact has said that it's a lifetime maximum. I'm hoping if anyone else has ran I to this. Also if it is in fact a lifetime maximum is that per diagnosis or just mental health disabilities in general? And is that only for LTD? So if I've met that maximum would I no longer be able to be covered even through STD coverage for mental health disabilities?

I appreciate yalls advice

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u/DeadlyKanoki — 4 days ago

How many physician statements?

I've been on LTD for 2 1/2 yrs since I had spinal surgery for a rare cancer. After treatment I developed/ was diagnosed with several other health conditions that may or may not be a direct result of my cancer treatments. I developed a rare spinal cord syrinx, CRPS, dysautonomia, SFN etc... along with unrelenting chronic spine pain which left me with difficult standing, sitting and progressive leg weakness with walking. After trying to find answers for the past 3 yrs I got a (controversial) diagnosis of occult tethered cord as possibly the cause of some of my symptoms and the syrinx.

I will have spinal cord surgery in 2 months in an attempt to stop any neurological progression pretty much because I have not much left to loose but likely any of the long term neurological damage may not be reversible.

Now my question is I got an email that I have yet another new LTD case manager. I think it's #7. They also sent a letter stating they need update record and physician statements (last done in Jan) and they expect them from Pallative care provider (who had been managing my LTD paperwork this whole time) as well as the new neurosurgeon (who I only had a consult with and they did not evaluate my functional status- they are also located in the North East and I live in the South.
Is there any requirement that they need to be provided multiple physician statements on my functional status? I can't see the justification for a LTD claim to need a functional statement from a provider with whom I am not actively under the care of yet and when I am it will be for a short term and not have anything to do with my cancer related pain and disabilities. I think they are fishing. Do I have options to say no to the surgeon filling out a form? Not sure if they would even be willing to complete it but they did not evaluate my physical limitations during the consult.

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u/Fire_and_Ice17 — 4 days ago
▲ 12 r/LongTermDisability+1 crossposts

Mind

My husband who is 53 years old is suffering with Parkinson’s. He says his body is feeling better and he can do more than before, but his mind is going. Does anybody know if there’s any medicine that conquers the memory or is there a hope?

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u/FarmerTiny3751 — 7 days ago

Hiring a Lawyer After Appeal

Hello!
I recently won my appeal with an extremely knowledgeable lawyer and I would like to never deal directly with NYL again.

The lawyer I hired for the appeal charges $500/hr to represent me, not a set percentage of my monthly LTD amount. Hopefully NYL leaves me alone for awhile since I’m now past Any Occupation but I’m so frightened that they’ll try to do anything.

I have ME, POTs, MCAs, things that LTD companies love to tear down.

The lawyer explained that it is less expensive to pay only for hours needed and not every month, because there will hopefully be many months/years when NYL leaves me alone.

If there will be yearly reviews she would handle that, and god forbid another appeal!

Does anyone else pay a flat hourly fee for continued representation? Does this sound like a fair deal?

My conditions are nuanced and she is an expert and knows all my doctors and necessary medical testing as well as keeps up to date with all medical studies on my conditions. Her expertise is undeniable and I’d like to keep her. I’m just not sure what is “fair”/ less expensive or not.

Hoping this doesn’t ruffle any LTD lawyer feathers and I’d appreciate any insight!

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u/Responsible_Emu1066 — 8 days ago
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Curiousity

Hey! I’m researching activity planning in senior living. Can you show me or describe how you put together your monthly calendar? Just curious about the actual process — how long it takes, what tools you use, that’s it

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u/No-Marionberry-9058 — 6 days ago

LTD closed and appeal denied

Im wondering if anyone has encountered this issue with their LTD claim. My claim was closed after 24 months. I submitted an appeal and it was denied. After careful reviewing the denial letter, I realized that they referenced the wrong employer and policy in their determination. Not once, but twice. It was two different companies that I have never worked for. It sounds like they use a template to send out these denial letters, but in this case they referenced the wrong policies. Not my policy. Is this legal??? Im so confused.

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u/BN_9_29 — 6 days ago

Change in ERISA counsel

Anyone had to leave an hourly ERISA attorney while currently approved due to cost and did you re-hire before change of definition to any occupation or wait for denial? Did you overturn a denial on your own? How did you navigate hiring new counsel? Want to avoid a later denial but hourly cost to manage communication with LTD company for one record request was $10K surprise ($400 hourly, said it would be less than contingency and was far more with no guarantee moving forward). I made requests/followed up with doctors myself anyway to barely make a deadline. I fixed a peer review mistake by a doctor on my own. I expect extreme scrutiny by my LTD. Not sure what people are willing to share.

ETA: I deal with mostly invisible disabilties with high risk of denial. I was already approved on my own but condition got worse.

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u/Sorting_out_ — 6 days ago

How do you select a lawyer for an appeal?

I recently had an ERISA LTD claim denied. I believe I have a good case for appeal.

I’ve spoken to 4 ERISA lawyers about my case and they all seem very competent. They all seem to be familiar with my particular diagnoses/disabilities and say they have successfully fought my particular insurer for these disabilities and won.

They all seem like nice people that I could work with and who know the field.

A couple have said they are ready to take me on as a client based on my denial letter. Another said that they would need to see my entire claim file before deciding to go take me on but in general seemed positive about the prospects based on my denial letter.

What things should I be looking for as I screen attorneys?

No attorney is going to say they’re inexperienced or that they’re too swamped to give my case attention… but I don’t want to discover that mid-way through the appeal process.

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u/RainyScraper — 7 days ago

Looking for ERISA attorney advice after LTD denial during SSDI process

I’m looking for advice from anyone who has dealt with BOTH SSDI and ERISA/LTD claims.

I stopped working in early 2024 due to chronic back/nerve issues after spinal surgery. I’ve been on LTD through a large insurance company since mid-2024.

I have an SSDI ALJ hearing scheduled later this year. My SSDI attorney was originally referred/paid through the insurance company’s SSDI assistance program.

I was just denied continued LTD benefits at the “any occupation” transition. Their denial basically says they believe I can perform sedentary work despite chronic pain, permanent restrictions, positional limitations, and ongoing treatment.

They relied heavily on:

  • an older FCE
  • “normal gait/strength” office exams
  • transferable skills analysis finding sedentary supervisory/customer service-type jobs

I now feel like I may need:

  1. an ERISA/LTD attorney for the appeal
  2. possibly a different SSDI attorney before the hearing

Has anyone:

  • switched SSDI attorneys before an ALJ hearing?
  • dealt with LTD denial while waiting for SSDI?
  • used an insurance company-referred SSDI attorney and felt comfortable (or not)?

I’m trying to be strategic and not panic-react, but I’m overwhelmed right now.

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u/I_will_Drive — 9 days ago

Is this a bad idea

I have an extremely bad case of POTS and am having a harder time keeping up at work. I've seen a half dozen specialists and am getting as much benefit as I can from medications.

I'm thinking about going on STD/LTD. My plan gives me 66% of my salary. I work remotely and have an accommodation for 30 hrs/week.

At any time, I can inform my work I want to go back to working 40 hrs/wk. 66% of this salary would obviously be higher (1.33x) than 66% of my current salary.

Here is my question. If I make the change to 40 hrs and THEN apply for STD/LTD after working a couple weeks/months, would that raise red flags and threaten my claim? Thanks

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u/slim_pickens70 — 8 days ago

Terminated while on Long Term Disability

Hi everyone - I'm posting on behalf of a friend.

Friend went on LTD a few months ago. Their employer has now terminated their employment and offered a separation agreement to sign.

They are confused as to whether signing the separation agreement will impact their LTD.

In particular there is a sentence in Scope of Release that says "If, notwithstanding the above (paragraph about benefits, claims etc etc), you are awarded money or other relief under such a claim, you hereby assign the money or relief to the employer"

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u/Majestic_BT — 8 days ago

Toronto disability insurance lawyers - looking for recommendations

Hi, my name is Rob, nice to meet you all! I’m currently helping my older sister sort through a stressful situation after her disability insurance claim was denied, so now we decided to figure out how to find disability lawyer and try again. Does anyone have experience with disability insurance lawyers who mostly focus on denied LTD claims? We’re based in Toronto, but we’re open to speaking with someone anywhere in the GTA or elsewhere in Ontario if they handle these kinds of cases.

Thank you!!

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u/New_Staff_419 — 11 days ago

Timing of LTD --> SSDI

TL,DR:

  • When should I apply for SSDI with Brown&Brown - the firm that was recommended to me by my employer's LTD insurance (DMBA - GRP)?
  • Are there often very long gaps between when LTD ends and SSDI starts?
    • Is there anecdotal evidence that employers will bridge your LTD knowing you have n SSDI application initiated?
  • What is the average experience with this?
  • Do I go ahead and apply or wait on GRP to green-light me?

Background:

In my LTD orientation, I was told GRP would let me know when to apply, would assist me, and to use Brown&Brown. (I accept this as a good recommendation because it behooves them financially to have a successful SSDI program).

My concern is in knowing that it can take a very long time for an SSDI application to yield approval and payment. My LTD is approved through September. Now, I *might* be approved for more LTD but the unknown feels risky. I am leaving the US in September and want to complete the application/medical exams before leaving. In an effort to be proactive, I'm reluctant to wait on GRP to tell me to start the application AND I am uncomfortable asking because remaining on LTD is a much better situation financially due to the high salary it is maintaining - don't want to poke the bear in a sense.

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u/TravelingBop — 10 days ago

Hi, my mental health employer-funded LTD was denied after a year. It was quite a shock to me since they have approved me for short-term for 6 months and then long-term for 1 year. I am going to appeal. I know I'm only allowed 24 months on this plan. They said it is because "a lot of your stress is related to work stress and feeling monitored and micromanaged."

  1. Has this happened to anyone? What did you do to get it reinstated?
  2. Do you get multiple appeals? I was hoping to appeal by myself, by getting my therapist to write very clearly my limitations and impairments. And then hiring a lawyer for the next appeal if it doesn't work.
  3. How worried should I be :(
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u/JazzlikeBaseball — 14 days ago