r/MarioScaling

Idk the thought of mario just "Nuh uh"ing a timestop with superguard is really funny to me lmao

The presented versions :

Main Mario (Mainline games + Spin-offs and all RPGs except Paper Mario) :

Paper Mario (Paper Mario series) :

Mario Kun (Coro Coro Super Mario Kun mangas) :

Dr Mario Kun (Kodasha Dr Mario Kun mangas) :

Smash Bros Mario (Super Smash Bros series) :

Olympics Mario (Mario and Sonic at The Olympics Games series) :

Movie Mario (Illumination studios Mario Movies) :

Mario Bros/ Luigi’s Mansion vs Pac-Man

All lore, abilities, hax, and canon material allowed. Which team is the last one standing and why?

**Teams**:

Team Crystal - Warrior of Light (Stranger of Paradise), Bartz Klauser, and Onion Knight

Team Devil - Dante, Nero, and Vergil

Team Hedgehog - Sonic, Shadow, and Silver

Team Mushroom - Mario, Luigi, and Bowser

I’m gonna be honest … I think finite speed specifically Mario is faster.

Base Mario alone is over 35 quintillion times FTL via feats like the green comet and orbulon spaceship psychic waves and the he can get around over 9 sextillion times FTL thanks to the pure hearts reversing the void expansion … not to mention all the multipliers that can get stacked on top of if which are bare minimum in the thousands thanks to power stars meanwhile i got base Sonic ranging from 4.838 to 96.76 quadrillion times FTL via Void crossing the 4th dimension space and boosts should make him at least 8 times faster so 38.504 to 770.08 quadrillion times FTL … add the fact Super should be faster than this and then add the same multiplier again and it comes out to 308.032 quadrillion to 6.16 quintillion times FTL then add the blue power core which duobles his speed and he reaches speeds equal to 616.064 quadrillion to 12.32 quintillion times FTL … and if you want to say that just a single chaos emerald is better than the boost and then multiply that for 7 that would make Sonic best possible speed 4.312 to 86.24 quintillion times FTL which is insane and could get higher if i missed something but i still don’t think it’s enough to make him faster than Mario.

And before anyone ask no i don’t buy time eater and Solaris destroying the universe cause those are AP feats not speed feats and i don’t buy the paradox prism one either cause Shadow used Chaos Control before the explosion got triggered (and the last episode proves how Shadow wanted to teleport the prism outside the universe but failed before it activated and even if counted it wouldn’t be a base Shadow feat either way), the best feat I could maybe buy is black doom spreading his influence over white space that has been calculated to 4.1 quintillion times FTL which would be Sonic new base speed and then add all his multipliers and he reaches 524.8 quintillion times FTL (3.673 sextillion times FTL if the last 7x multiplier is accounted) but i don’t fully buy it because this one has never been used in an offensive way and the characters didn’t acknowledge it like it didn’t reach them but i could be committing appeal to incredulity … still i think Mario is still faster even if but it’s definitely way closer now.

But what is YOUR opinion ? Do you agree with mine ? Do you disagree ? Let me know if you disagree with my reasoning while remaning respectful.

(And one last thing but don’t worry, it feels really weird for me as well to say Mario is faster than Sonic 😭🥀)

The presented arguments :

- More consistency on ghosts being higher dimensional as E-Gadd describes them as beings who defy the laws of science and their research led him to discover a new dimension and Mario dying by bullet bills is described as being blasted off the normal plane of existence.

- Matter Splatter consistency on being an higher dimension as it’s influence spreads beyond one galaxy and is called not only a different dimension but also a “spatial challange” and transdimensional

- Dreams in Mario can exist on multiple dimensions of existence both lower and higher and the underwhere is called a “nightmarish realm beyond imagination”

- More consistency with Flipside being said to be in-between the tapestry of dimensions, inside a dimensional gap, an higher dimension and that to reach the worlds outside of it you need to channel the dimensional flow and find their dimensionality

- The real form of music is a transcendent force of math and feeling that transcends spirits as well.

Honestly i’d say all arguments are good except maybe the underwhere one.

Mario Bros vs Dragon Ball