these "ratings" are based of the overall feel and quality of the mice i received along side the shape.

i know vgn is a sub brand of atk but ive never tried anything from them

edit: or atleast i think i havent tried anything from vgn the atk naming scheme is all over the place

The mouse is ATK X1 Ultimate and will be using it on cloth pad (hard).

Dot skates diameter = 6.5 mm

Basically I'm a first time dot skates user. Please suggest me which orientation will be the best for playing CS2 (smooth movement)?

Also should I keep the center sensor skate on? Conflicting opinions on this one.

Hey. I'm looking for new mouse.

What I've used: (from oldest to current)

- Logitech G203 (Good)

- Razer Viper Mini (GOATed)

- VGN Dragonfly F1 (Pretty good)

- Ajazz AJ159 APEX (Didn't like)

- Delux M800 Mini Pro (Okay-ish)

My main issue with Delux M800 Mini Pro is that it's too light for me and it feels cheap in hand like cheap plastic toy.

I love the texture of Viper Mini and it's weight but also I would like to try some new shapes, bigger ones like idk maybe Superlight or normal Razer Viper.

I've attached pics so you can see my grip on Viper Mini, I really feel like I would like to try something bigger.

Of course I'm only looking into chinese clones brands (aliexpress). My max budget is 70$/60€

Mostly I play Valorant, CS2, Fortnite, Rocket League, PUBG

Living in a bad country with a trash economy is very tiring and annoying thing/life i was looking for a good mouse for fps and longterm use my first chose was endgame gear but the prices are crazy here 200-600$ then iv found mchose l7 ultra+ but i saw users suffering from the connection with mchose l7

The prices are

mchose l7 ultra + =85$

Endgame OP1 WE wireless =79$ (in somewhere i found this price normaly its way more expensive)

Which endgame gear mouse we can get in 2026 ? If you have any experience and thanks

Do you guys ever have to rotate your mouse skates? As in, put the rear skates on the front or vice versa? I noticed my mouse was scratching on my glass pad, no dust to be seen, looked at the bottom and it almost looked like the skates on the front of my mouse were taller and less worn than the ones on the rear. I switched them around, and the scratching is gone and it's nice and smooth again. I am using an ATK A9 Air and the rear of the mouse does have a bit of a lip near the rear of it.

This is my dot placement, using Xraypad Obsidian Airs

Hey guys just hoped back to my old wired mouse I have a wireless too but that one is kind of a silent one plus it has a really apple mouse design which I don't like too be very honest however this mouse I purchased it way back in 2020 or 21 (I can't really remember) I was being used by my roomate but recently he gave it back to me and I am surprised that it still works and that clicky sound that it creates. Btw It costed me less than 2 dollars

I am cursed with fingertip grip, so it had to be done.

Do you think they'll still honor the warranty?

17.78 × 8.13 cm and my grip and my mouse currently is the Mchose a7 V2 ultra do you think I should get another mouse?

I want a mouse where it feel it made for me and I can’t blame my mouse for aim 

Introduction/Context/About Me

This review is about the EPOMAKER Nex Pro in the Silver colorway. This product was sent out by EPOMAKER in exchange for this review. Please keep in mind this is a pre-release unit as the mouse is still in its reservation period. There are no monetary compensations nor affiliate programs associated with this post.

My experience involved using this mouse for around 1 week on a speed glass pad with a carpal-stabilized relaxed claw grip with a 1/2/2 finger layout. My hands measure 18x9 cm and are fairly dry, and I play in a low-humidity environment. It was used at a 2,000 Hz polling rate and 1,600 DPI on a 240 Hz monitor to play Battlefield 6, Path of Exile, and Witchfire.

English isn't my first language, so please excuse any mistakes and feel free to ask any questions if you find any point to be unclear.

Unboxing Experience

The box feels sturdy and features 100% recyclable interior materials; while slightly larger than average, it is still very compact. Upon opening, you find a cutout foam insert containing the mouse and two cardboard boxes underneath, with one containing the charging dock that doubles as the wireless receiver and the accessories.

The mouse itself comes pre-applied with full-size skates and supports wired, 2.4GHz, and Bluetooth connectivity. This is always nice to see on shapes that are also very adequate for work.

The charging dock doesn't come with any detachable dongle but features touch controls explained in the manual for RGB control, and comes with a good quality silicone base to prevent slipping on your desk.

The included accessories consist of:

• A good quality paracord cable, held back by the lack of an angled USB-C connection for wired play, as well as being on the stiffer end
• Two sets of cutout grip tape; these felt smooth and rubbery, providing decent but not amazing grip for my dry hands
• A set of replacement full-size skates; these are the same as the stock ones, more on that in the appropriate section
• Instruction manual

Overall, it is a package containing decent quality extras, only lacking replacement dot skates. It would have been nice to see these included, but for a budget-friendly release, it is understandable.

Shape

The mouse features an asymmetrical ergonomic shape that, to my knowledge, is original. This was a very pleasant surprise, especially as it's fairly unique compared to the average ergonomic mouse taking heavy inspiration from the Zowie EC shape.

In terms of measurements the mouse comes in at 122 x 65 x 42 mm.

In terms of the features of the shape, it can be broken down as such:

• Slight outward flare with flat and moderate front flare, both with rounded edges
• Deep comfort grooves offering a very locked-in feeling
• Upwards curved sides, with the left side offering the natural thumb rest position you come to expect from ergonomic mice
• A fairly pronounced centered hump leaning slightly backwards
• A very low-profile ergonomic tilt, reminding me more of the Vaxee NP01s Ergo than your average ergonomic release, but not quite as flat

Overall, I was able to adapt to the shape easily. It is quite comfortable, and having the lower-than-typical ergo tilt facilitates more flexibility in grip styles rather than forcing a palm grip.

Weight

My unit weighs 64.4 grams with the stock skates and 63.7 grams with four dot skates installed, which falls within the industry's commonly accepted ±3 gram manufacturing variance, being 0.6 grams over the advertised 65 grams for the stock experience.

In terms of weight distribution, I think the mouse did a good job balancing itself considering the internals required to support magnetic docking and charging; despite their best efforts, however, as expected, it is somewhat rear-heavy, although not as bad as other products that feature the same gimmick.

Overall, I'd say the mouse is a bit too heavy for my liking, and I would have wished to see it sit in the 50-gram range instead. While it is not a small mouse by any means, it's smaller than your average ergo that manages to achieve the 45 to 55 gram range.

Build Quality

Absolutely rock solid; regardless of where I press, I can't feel any flex or creak, even while applying unrealistic force.

There isn't much to say about it; an absolute tank as you'd expect out of something in the 60-gram range.

Clicks

Main Clicks

Equipped with Omron optical switches rated for 100M clicks. These are light and crisp, and easily spammable.

There is minimal pre/post-travel, which I found to be consistent across the entire click area.

Build quality-wise, there is slight side-to-side wobble on the right click that doesn't seem to be present on the left. However, I find this to only be the case while actively looking for it, unless you're someone pressing at the outer middle edge of the click and lacking stability on your finger.

Side Buttons

Extremely light and crisp, just like the main clicks; however, the tactility is slightly different from each other, while the sound profile is completely different.

They have a good dimension, clearly split to avoid mistakes on inputs, and don't seem to sink or mush in any way.

Scroll Wheel

Equipped with the TTC Gold encoder, the scroll wheel offered light, defined steps and an easily spammable scroll. The click, however, was quite heavy.

As far as the scroll build itself, it's a standard plastic housing with a rubberized ring that has good texture. Overall, it is well-made. I can't get it to slip, and the only nitpick I have is that the textured ridges could be ever so slightly deeper.

Coating

The coating has a slightly sticky and smooth feeling. I found it to be very grippy off the bat; however, it is worth noting that I found it to be slightly slippery when sweat builds up. I am currently facing abnormal weather conditions with an ongoing heat wave and significant humidity, so I don't see this as a negative as it's not the typical conditions I play in. If you live in a location that is generally quite warm and has decent humidity, I would keep this in mind, however.

Stock Skates

The stock skates are made of UHMW-PE. They have rounded edges and provide a smooth, very controlled glide. I personally found them to be too slow for my taste, even on glass in combination with the mouse weight.

I would have preferred to see a balanced or even speed-leaning solution instead, but other than that, if you're after the extremely controlled experience, I'd say these are good enough to not warrant immediate replacement with third-party solutions.

Performance & Battery Life

The mouse is equipped with a customized PixArt PAW3950 sensor. Overall, I found the implementation to be very good at 2,000Hz and under; however, I did start to notice some slight instability at 4,000Hz and above. This is nothing new and something that happens to a lot of mice. I personally don't play at such high polling rates, but I'd say it's still perfectly suitable for it.

Sensor position-wise, I find it to be adequately positioned, being center-forward and sitting generously where most people will naturally rest their thumb, which feels fairly natural. Although as is expected out of an ergo due to the width, you will never quite reach that pen-like feeling. Considering the shape they had to work with, I'd say overall it's a great implementation.

As far as battery life goes, a Nordic 54L15 MCU paired with a 500mAh battery and the combination of a charging dock makes it pretty hard to ever see your mouse actually die in use. At the time of writing, I have charged the mouse fully at the start of the review period, and while the software doesn't show a concrete number, the battery is still mostly full with around 30 hours of use.

Web Driver

Features

• 3 onboard memory profiles so you can have different configurations for your various use cases
• Full remapping of Mouse 1 through 5 buttons, with the following features:
  • Regular actions
  • Polling rate switch
  • Firepower Button; sends 1 to 3 inputs with an interval of 10 to 255 ms
  • Combo key; any keyboard key with optional tick for Shift, Ctrl, Alt, and Win buttons
  • Disable
  • Macro
  • Multimedia shortcuts
• Up to 6 DPI levels ranging from 50 to 42,000
• Polling rate with preset values of 125, 250, 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, and 8000 Hz
• Three performance modes:
  • LP: Normal Mode
  • HP: High - Performance Mode
  • Corded: Ultra - Performance Mode; always on whenever playing at 2,000 Hz or higher
• Lift-off distance with preset values of 0.7, 1, and 2mm
• Ripple Control
• Angle Snapping
• Motion Sync
• Macro recording
• Customization of the DPI light on the bottom part of the mouse
• Receiver LED Indication Status; this setting seems to not do anything on this pre-release unit. When I questioned the intent, I was told that currently the software doesn't support dongle customization
• Optional sleep mode timer ranging from 10 seconds to 15 minutes
• 20K FPS Sensor scan rate toggle; as usual, a big source of battery drain
• Long distance mode; improves performance when further away from the dongle in exchange for increased power drain
• Angle tuning ranging from -30 to 30 degrees

Missing/Improvements

• DPI X/Y split
• LOD with a slider accepting steps of 0.1mm
• Click debounce settings would be nice when using one of the most sensitive switches on the market. Personally, I am used to it, but there's still a lot of people rejecting Omron Opticals due to this
• The presentation as a whole could use some work as while easy to navigate it does look a bit rough

Value

Please keep in mind the following section is based on European Union pricing with the final VAT included (which in my case is 23%) and does not include potential shipping costs. Like always, I suggest only taking this recommendation at face value and checking your own regional pricing on not only this product but others you may be comparing it to before making a decision.

With the mouse coming in at €69.99 and the possibility of a 10% discount if it's your first purchase, I'd say this is an excellent value product that will check the boxes of many users, with the only "big" downside being the weight, and the other being purely subjective with the not-fully-utilized potential of the PAW 3950 in the DPI and LOD implementation.

This is a mouse I would be comfortable paying up to €90 for, and as such, I think it's hard to pass up on the offering if the mouse seems right for you.

Conclusion

Overall, an interesting package offering a unique shape, the convenience of a charging hub, good coating, and an awesome click implementation. I can safely recommend this to anyone looking for a mouse that serves as a stepping stone between a flat asymmetrical and a "proper" ergonomic mouse.

Thank you again, EPOMAKER, for sending this unit out for review!

Want more?

• MCHOSE A7 V2 Ultra + (posted today)
• ROG Harpe II Ace (Previous)
• Teevolution Terra PRO coming soon!

Introduction/Context/About Me

This review is about the MCHOSE A7 V2 Ultra + in the White colorway. This product was sent out by MCHOSE in exchange for this review. There are no monetary compensations nor affiliate programs associated with this post.

My experience involved using this mouse for around 1 week on a speed glass pad with a carpal-stabilized relaxed claw grip with a 1/2/2 finger layout. My hands measure 18x9 cm and are fairly dry, and I play in a low-humidity environment. It was used at a 2,000 Hz polling rate and 1,600 DPI on a 240 Hz monitor to play Battlefield 6, Path of Exile, Roboquest, Gunfire Reborn, and Witchfire.

English isn't my first language, so please excuse any mistakes and feel free to ask any questions if you find any point to be unclear.

Unboxing Experience

The box feels sturdy and features 100% recyclable interior materials, although it is larger than average due to the magnetic dock. Upon opening, you find a cardboard box containing the accessories and the mouse, alongside the magnetic charging base in a cutout foam insert secured underneath the accessory box.

The included accessories consist of:

• A good quality paracord cable, held back only by the lack of an angled USB-C connection for wired play
• A set of good quality grip tape; the texture on it reminds me slightly of "Lizard Skins" grips
• Instruction manual
• Quick start guide card

Overall, it is a package containing high-quality goods, but it is lacking replacement full-size and dot skates. It would have been nice to see these included, but for a budget-friendly release, it is understandable.

You may have noted that there is no mention of the inclusion of any sort of dongle; this is because the dongle itself is included in the magnetic dock, which doubles as a dongle extender and charger. This dock felt very premium in hand and featured a high quality silicone base anchoring it in place without any issues.

As for the mouse itself, it comes pre-applied with full-size skates and supports wired, 2.4GHz, and Bluetooth connectivity.

Shape

The mouse features a symmetrical shape strongly based on the Logitech G Pro X Superlight/Superstrike, with a very tiny difference in the curvature expanding the sides to the rear.

In terms of measurements the mouse comes in at 125 x 63 x 39 mm.

In terms of the features of the shape, it can be broken down as such:

• Slight outward flare with very rounded edges
• Extremely minor comfort grooves; they rely more on the slope and coating to do their job than the grooves themselves to offer a locked-in feeling
• Flat sides with slight tapering towards the edge of the click area, transitioning to the hump just under the edge of the M5 button. I personally find this very good for safely using a forward-leaning grip
• A fairly pronounced centered hump. I find this severely limits a fingertip grip if you plant your wrist on your pad

Overall, I was able to adapt to the shape easily, as it is extremely safe. There isn't much to say on this topic; there is a reason why this is one of the most used shapes in the world. You pick one up and forget about it. I usually joke in Discord peripheral chats about how this is "endgame for none, usable by all!"

Weight

My unit weighs 60.4 grams with the stock skates and 59.8 grams with four dot skates installed, which falls within the industry's commonly accepted ±3 gram manufacturing variance, being 1.4 grams over the advertised 59 grams for the stock experience.

In terms of weight distribution, I think the mouse did a good job balancing itself considering the internals required to support magnetic docking and charging; however, it is noticeably rear-heavy. In hand, it doesn't feel as intense, but you can always tell there's a slight drag in the back area during movements. While this can work to the advantage of tactical FPS players, for my personal use case, I would have preferred to see a lighter version for the regular models.

I find it quite strange that the 59-gram weight is advertised for all 4 versions, yet only the + models come with the magnetic dock capability after reaching out to MCHOSE they've confirmed it's intentional design in order to unify the weight across all models.

Build Quality

As you'd expect from a mouse in the 50+ gram range, this feels rock solid; regardless of where I press, I can't feel any flex or creak, even while applying unrealistic force.

There isn't much to say beyond this: it is an incredibly well-built mouse.

Clicks

Main Clicks

Equipped with Omron mechanical switches rated for 100M clicks. I find them to remain light, like their optical counterparts, but offer significantly more tactility in exchange for being less spammable. Personally, when going with mechanicals, I prefer Huano options, but these are very well-tuned and implemented.

There is extremely minimal pre/post-travel, which I found to be consistent across the entire click area.

Side Buttons

The sides felt very nice and crisp. Just like the main clicks, they have little to no pre/post-travel. They also don't exhibit any sinking issue, but do lack a coating. In terms of size, they're on the medium end but feature slight separation to prevent accidental actuations.

Scroll Wheel

Equipped with the TTC Gold encoder, the scroll wheel offered light, defined steps and an easily spammable, but noticeably heavy, click.

As far as the scroll build itself, it's a standard plastic housing with a rubberized ring that has good texture. I didn't find this ring to be slippery, but I wish it had slightly more defined texturing.

Coating

The coating has a fairly dry and smooth feeling. MCHOSE markets this as a "Super Glide coating," and I found it to be very grippy without any warm-up period, but it gets noticeably stained after each use, requiring frequent cleaning to upkeep it.

I have previously had a somewhat negative experience with their "Glass-like coating," which I found to noticeably change the grip properties as early as just a few days in. So far, I can confidently say this new formula is much improved.

Stock Skates

The stock skates are made of pure 100% PTFE. They have rounded edges and provide a smooth, somewhat speed-leaning glide. Having used these on glass, I'd say they're on the quieter end as far as PTFE without any foam goes. While picking up some texture, I would say these remind me a lot of the Magic Ice experience, except noticeably slower.

MCHOSE has always had very good stock skates on releases I've tried, so it's a shame they don't provide extras or the same skates in dot form. I would say these are worth trying before moving on to third-party alternatives, as a purchase may not be necessary. While I couldn't confirm this since I don't use full-size skates, I imagine you can use Superlight ones just fine.

Performance & Battery Life

The mouse is equipped with a customized PixArt PAW3950 sensor, the PAW3950 TI. Unfortunately, I did run into some issues out of the box with semi-rare random skips on a glass surface. After checking, I found that the mouse didn't come with the latest available software; once that was installed, the problem disappeared. As such, please check your own copy to ensure it is up to date. To be fully transparent, this is not an issue exclusive to MCHOSE; many 3950 sensor implementations on the market suffer from this as it is an issue in the base PixArt model.

Sensor position-wise, I find it to be adequately positioned, resulting in a very natural aim feeling, sitting perfectly in line with my thumb regardless of the various grips I try on it.

As far as battery life goes, MCHOSE uses a custom Realtek MCU paired with a 500mAh battery that results in very good battery life. I haven't had to charge it more than once, which is even more impressive considering my unit came in with around 60% charge. While MCHOSE doesn't offer specific measurements here, I can confidently say it seems to sit somewhere between a Nordic 52840 and a Nordic 52L15 MCU in the efficiency department. Between this and the fact that you can charge it conveniently at any time without unplugging any cables using the magnetic dock, this mouse is a must-try for people with battery life concerns.

Web Driver

Features

• 3 onboard memory profiles so you can have different configurations for your various use cases
• Full remapping of Mouse 1 through 5 buttons (but not the DPI and polling rate buttons) with the following features:
  • System and mouse-related shortcuts such as media controls or changing mouse profiles/DPI/etc.
  • Keyboard keys
  • Hotkeys such as Ctrl + C
  • Macros
• Up to 6 DPI levels ranging from 400 to 42,000 with X/Y split capability
• Three performance modes:
  • Performance mode: meant for casual gaming and day-to-day use, offering the best possible battery life
  • Gaming mode: increases sensor performance overall in exchange for slightly more battery drain (I strongly recommend this mode)
  • Extreme mode: inherits the traits of Gaming mode while setting the sensor to a constant 20k FPS scan rate, draining a very considerable amount of battery
• Optional sleep mode timer ranging from 1 to 100 minutes
• Polling rate with preset values of 125, 250, 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, and 8000 Hz. When first setting up the mouse, I noticed that it was limited to a 1000 Hz maximum due to coming with Performance mode enabled; simply refreshing the page fixed this display issue
• Lift-off distance with preset values of 0.7, 1, and 2mm. If you're using glass, anything other than 2mm resulted in sensor skips
• Click debounce ranging from 0 to 20ms, due to the nature of mechanical switches I'd recommend experimenting with this section as time goes on to avoid double clicking
• Angle tuning ranging from -30 to 30 degrees
• Ripple Control
• Angle Snapping
• Motion Sync. I found this implementation to be somewhat floaty; if, like me, you're sensitive to that, I advise skipping this setting
• Customisation of the scroll wheel lighting (disabled in Performance/Zone mode) with the following brightness options:
  • Static color
  • Breathing
  • Cycling
  • Stars (loops around turning on a quarter of the RGB)
  • Waves
  • While "disabled" isn't a direct option, you can turn the brightness to 0 on any option
• Mouse and dongle software updates alongside a "Base" update. It is unclear what this base is related to, and it came on the latest version from the factory

Missing/Improvements

• LOD with a slider accepting steps of 0.1mm, allowing users to fine-tune their preferred setting to avoid having to rely on a relatively higher value than necessary
• Motion Sync, as mentioned, could use a slight improvement in its implementation from my experience

Value

Please keep in mind the following section is based on European Union pricing with the final VAT included (which in my case is 23%) and does not include potential shipping costs. Like always, I suggest only taking this recommendation at face value and checking your own regional pricing on not only this product but others you may be comparing it to before making a decision.

With the mouse coming in at €45.54 to €60.42 depending on the version, I am very comfortable recommending this to anyone on a tighter budget looking for a gateway into arguably the most popular shape for both eSports and casual users. Just keep in mind that your need for features such as the magnetic charging dock (requiring the + models) and the 3950 sensor (requiring Ultra models) will be what determines the final price for your use case.

Conclusion

This is a mouse I can safely recommend to anyone looking for a more affordable Logitech G Pro X Superlight/Superstrike shape with the same weight and a convenient magnetic charging dock included in a single purchase (acting as a stationary alternative to Logitech's Powerplay). Coming in anywhere between almost one third to half the MSRP of the Superlight 2 and a fraction of the Superstrike depending on the version, it is very hard to say no to it—unless you're trying to get a lower-weight option.

Thank you again, MCHOSE, for sending this unit out for review!

Want more?

• EPOMAKER Next Pro (posted today)
• ROG Harpe II Ace (Previous)
• Teevolution Terra PRO coming soon!

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