r/OutsideT14lawschools

I’d like to know thoughts on sending a LOCI before receiving a decision. I’ve yet to hear from my top choice school and I’m toying with the idea of signaling continued interest. Is it a little premature to send one at this stage?

Status - UR for about a month

My top choice law school (Temple) has a reputation for scholarship renegotiation. However after I asked for reconsideration twice using significantly larger offers from peer schools (Richmond and FSU), they responded saying the incoming class is currently overfilled and that no additional scholarship funds have become available (which, totally fair, I get it. They were completely professional.)

However, they also said they expect some admitted students to withdraw over the summer and that they are unable to determine if any of those students are holding scholarship funds. They also emphasized that they hope I still enroll this fall.

I’ve already deposited for both deposits, responded professionally, and made it clear I’m still very interested, but financially it’s hard to justify paying substantially more than my other options.

For clarity I paid for deposits at all 3 schools

Since then, I’ve been seeing some withdrawals from Temple on LSD.law, which has me wondering whether scholarship money actually tends to reopen during summer melt, or whether schools mostly just hold firm at that point.

I’m not expecting them to fully match my other offers at this stage, but even a smaller adjustment would materially affect the decision.

It’s just hard to not lose hope right now and if I should throw in the towel with Temple

For reference:

Temple would be 190k of debt

University of Richmond would be 130k of debt

FSU would have 110k of debt

That is total COA

As to Why Temple; I really like the opportunities there in clinics and externships and I want to live in Philadelphia, love the staff, love the professors, etc

Edit: also to be really clear, Richmond admitted me a month and a half after Temple did and I got off of FSU’s waitlist at the beginning of May, thus I didn’t ask for scholarship reconsideration until late

I Received an email saying that they made offers and reduced the reserve list. Realistically do ya’ll think there’s another wave of acceptances anytime soon or any insight at all about their process. I know no one really knows anything about this besides their admissions team but speculation helps me with this process 😵‍💫

Cycle recap:

6 WL, 5 R

Need some advice on how to go forward. Been months on WL’s and no movement. Wrote LOCI, attended webinars, etc. Starting to lose hope in going to law school.

I know the advice would be to r&r, but the only problem is I have 1 LSAT attempt left. Honestly just afraid to take it again with what would be so much riding on this singular attempt. And idk if it’s even possible to improve upon, based on my 4 previous attempts.

This whole process has just been miserable tbh. This cycle has been crushing and now feels like i may never get to attend. Sucks I’ve had my eyes set on law school since high school and now fast forward to me being 25 with no clear indication I’ll be going. Feeling defeated ☹️

Anyone else in a similar situation?

I'm in that no man's land of accepted to a school I'd definitely attend, but waitlisted at my #1. Thing is, I am also a non-trad student, and my backup school has a lot of lifestyle benefits. I am seeking some advice on how/when to make a decision.

• Currently admitted to my backup, McGeorge (Sacramento)
• Waitlisted at my #1, Southwestern (LA)

There are big pros and cons to each school for my lifestyle, but I am falling more and more in love with McGeorge every time I visit. I have paid half of the seat deposit, and the other half is due soon. I sent SWLA a letter of cont interest like 2 weeks ago, and attended another admissions event... still nothing.

I feel like I will have more success at McGeorge (it's a night program, I'm old, building a family, have a neuro condition that makes night easier than morning, has a 98% pass rate free BAR study program, etc), but will obvs gain far more at SWLA, which has best Entertainment Law program in the nation (my field of interest, in the city I plan to settle down), compared to McGeorge which has none.

Now, what I am trying to figure out is when I should set myself a deadline. I have lived half my life in both cities, have lots of close fam/friends in both so moving at the drop of a hat is no issue. I scored poorly, so won't be getting lots of scholarship money in either place. I know that SWLA could send an offer as late as orientation week, and while I could get there, I would not have time to seek additional grants/scholarships. I am disabled after surviving a stroke, and my story getting to law school is something of a miraculous recovery, so I feel like I should be finding private scholarships for people like me.

Am I too late to be seeking out such funds already? If not, when is too late?

Should I already be seeking private loans for a Fall26 start date? Do you need to be enrolled to do so?

I already filled everything out, but should I be communicating with FAFSA about enrollment status already? How quickly do they release funds once enrolled, quickly enough to put money down on an apartment?

I am sure I'm missing stuff, but these are the things currently making planning hard. When should I decide to just sh*t or get off the pot?

Posting here instead of the other sub because ppl are much more supportive here rather than "start over and try to get a 195 LSAT score and get a full ride or quit"

Thank you!

the way they were talking about the WL def rubbed me the wrong way. will be withdrawing from the WL byeeeee

I am planning on applying to law schools this upcoming cycle - hoping to get into Stetson or UMiami. I am currently sitting at a 3.61 GPA (which is set in stone as in includes most recent grades) and a 158 LSAT. I have taken the LSAT twice now and am scheduled to sit for the June LSAT. My dilemma is that my PT scores haven't improved and I'm wondering if the extra few months of studying could be beneficial and if I should simply retake the exam for the last time in September... Is it worth losing the money? Or should I sat for June and then also take the exam in September? I'm a little scared that taking the LSAT 4 times will be a red flag to law schools.

Hello! I am still trying to figure out what law school I would like to go to and right now I feel like I've narrowed it down to two schools, Wayne State and Chicago-Kent. Wayne gave me a 30k a year scholarship and Kent gave me a 40k a year scholarship, so I think proportionally towards tuition the cost is similar, although cost of living in Chicago is obviously much higher.

Right now I feel like I really liked Kent's building, I've had good interactions with their admissions staff, and the idea of living in Chicago really appeals to me (I hate driving lol). I also know several older alumni personally or indirectly and they all said they really enjoyed their time there and felt like it was a good school. I also have a friend group that lives in Chicago right now so I could easily slip into things with them whereas here in metro detroit I only know my girlfriend's family. Right now my hang ups with Kent is that their not as high ranked as Wayne and moving out of state, along with the accompanying lifestyle change, is a little intimidating for me. I feel like I could really love it, but what if I regret it? What if I wanted to move back to Detroit after 5+ years?

For Wayne I really like their stats which are better than Kent's, I live in metro detroit right now so I wouldn't have to move, I generally like living in detroit (despite some of the issues and needing a car), it is likely all things considered cheaper (although I currently live in a HCOL area in metro detroit so my rent wouldn't be much lower than in Chicago lol), and I'll be closer to family and red wings hockey (which I love). My gripes with Wayne are, I wasn't super impressed with the building and I've had some issues with their admission staff (although really great interactions with their career services team and professors) and a part of me just doesn't feel super thrilled by them even though going into my application process they were my number 1.

I guess my final thoughts are I think I like Kent more, but I'm unsure if I want to potentially move away for the rest of my life, especially to someplace that will cost me more and isn't as high ranked as my other choice. And with Wayne I'm unsure if I want to dedicate my law school years to a school I'm not thrilled about and live in a place that, while I do like, could use improvement and I had an opportunity to go to a place that doesn't have any of problems I don't like about detroit (but obviously would have it's own problems that I'm not aware of yet).

Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!

I need some honest opinions. I have a 3.1 GPA, applied in late Feb., URM, worked all 4 years of undergrad, a couple years of WE, and a 154 LSAT. I was accepted to one school this cycle (T150s), waitlisted at two others, and rejected from 10 other schools.

I’m debating accepting my offer or R&R. Is it reasonable to think I’d get my acceptances/scholarship if I got a couple point bump in LSAT (say 158-160) and applied in September? Looking at data, I’m starting to think my outcome would be the same next cycle due to my low GPA.

Any thoughts?

I’ve taken the LSAT 3 times. The second attempt I had a horrible cold, couldn’t cancel because of fee waiver free attempt. Highest score being a 155. After a underwhelming cycle, I want to give it another go. Is taking it four times too many? Would that be a red flag?

I do have a two acceptances but I didn’t receive much scholarship :/

is anyone still sending out applications? /has anyone recently sent out applications? / do people even send out apps this late in the cycle?

don’t yell at me i’m just wondering

Hi all, I will be starting law school this upcoming fall semester and am choosing between University of Oregon and Seattle University. Between the scholarship options I've received from both programs, cost of attendance will be more or less the same for both. Oregon ranks a little higher than Seattle U but I've lived in Seattle for a while now and would like to settle down here long term. With seat deposit deadlines approaching soon, I am still unsure where I'd like to commit and wanted to check if anyone on this forum has any opinions or was in a similar situation to this?

Thanks!

Hello,

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I had a rough cycle this year and was planning on reapplying next year, but just got into Emory off the waitlist with a scholarship of 55k a year. I am unsure if they negotiate scholarships. I am not married to the idea of BigLaw whatsoever and am interested in government work. I need to make a decision very soon, as I have a lease to sign if I am reapplying next year, and so I would love to hear any advice! For reference, my stats are 17(1,2,3) LSAT and a 4.X GPA KJD.

Thank you so much!

sigh… another one of my lists but this one is less fun. i haven’t heard back from half of my schools 😃