r/PhoenixMainsMR

Do you guys actually want a rework?

I played Phoenix a good bit before she became completely overshadowed by Cyclops and Hela, and I think that, from a hero shooter standpoint, her kit is decently designed. A lot of people have said that she needs to be reworked into a strategist or at least have her abilities changed, but do the character mains actually want that?

I'm asking because the outcry from Widow mains after her rework was loud. And they were right that very few who actually played her wanted a full on character rework. Which was fair, but with Phoenix, I've seen a lot of posts here about rework suggestions and I'm curious.

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u/hauntsbane — 11 days ago

recolours n vfx?

do yall think theyll give phoenix recolours n vfx later on?
cuz i really like this skin n im thinking of getting it but no recolours n no vfx does make me kinda iffy on it

u/WeepingEevee — 11 days ago

Phoenix/Jean Rework/Buff Idea

Hello hellooooo I've recently been getting into Phoenix and I wanted to speak about her lack of identity in the game and add some flair to her kit so she isn't in the running with Hela and Cyclops. I wanted her to become a hybrid DPS with support capabilities.

The changes I want to implement are going to include getting her closer to character accuracy with a telepathic ability, resurrection, etc.

Changes

Telepathic Illusion: Remove from her kit.

-- No reason to have two movement abilities and a teleport for Phoenix/Jean never made sense to me. Also it still detonates in a small radius even though they removed her brawl potential.

Endsong Inferno: While Phoenix has her ult, and she is KO'd there is a 3 sec window when she is able to resurrect and cast her ult. The resurrection animation explodes in a 3m radius doing 40 damage and applying 1 spark. Shockwave heals allies for 50hp.

--With this change the resurrection aspect of the Phoenix can be realized. Also the tradeoff for lower damage and killing potential she has utility through destroying enemy summons. However since most characters don't have them it can be seen as a little situational. The healing for the team could give it the bump it needs.

Dark Ascent: Increase flight movement speed from 50% to 100% on cast and depreciates to 75% over 2 seconds. Increase the flight meter from 1200 energy to 1800.

--This move always seemed a little lacking so boosting its speed and meter can actually make it a viable as an escape and engagement option.

Buffs

New Passive - Psionic Resilience: Spark detonations now fill up a meter of psychic shielding. 4 meter charge per spark detonation.

-- Adding a use for the sparks after the damage had been reduced, as sparks and weaker primary damage usually just leave enemies low instead of KOing them.

New Ability - Telepathic Fortification: Consume your meter to give yourself or an ally over shield. Max 100 over shield. Provides over shield to self or allies through ticks similar to Emma or Wanda. 50 over shield per sec.

-- Giving her a telepathic ability, also giving her a good bump in survivability after losing 25 health. Also can lend more into a support play style.

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u/Ahwkns78 — 11 days ago

Address hate in the community.

I post here often, and recently posted on the main sub that got a pretty big/great reaction, but this subreddit seems to be fairly better when it comes to be more accepting and overall getting along.

With that being said, I know a lot of mains of Phoenix and even fans of the character in general want changes and myself included, but before they do a rework or even address her or any other characters in the dev vision. the devs need to address the increase of racism, hate speech, and overall bigotry in this community. this should not be difficult at all, with just increasing the level of penalty or even permanent removal of an account for hate speech.

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u/alkg176 — 11 days ago