r/PhoenixMainsMR

Stun?

I've been playing alot of phoenix this season and actually been having really good games! I like exploding people, but I haven't been able to tell if her stun stops ults. Should I be trying to stun like a wanda ult? Or does it not work like that

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u/cherryyccola — 22 hours ago

Phoenix: Viridian Vogue 🗓️ Release Date: August 20th @ 10:00 PM EDT 🔒 Vault Date: September 18th @ 10:00 PM EDT 💎 Rarity: Epic 🛍️ Includes: Costume, MVP Animation, Emote, Nameplate, Spray 💬 Inspiration: X-Men Red (2022) #4 [Jen Bartel Variant]

Jean's Hellfire Gala 2

u/riskedbiscuit — 2 days ago

Current Pros/Cons of Phoenix

I know this sub is primarily made of Jean fans before this game, and some after she was added and simply liked playing her. As someone who is both, I thought I could share what I feel to be her pros and cons currently standing in season 9.5.

Middle ground

- Visuals : In this game I feel is a middle ground for me. Despite the reactions, I personally love her base design and the unique style of the Phoenix Force as a separate being (not person) next to her. I also like the way she merges with it for various abilities. It is overall a beautiful design, my favorite being the reference to the White Hot Room as she finishes her Ultimate. The middle ground for me comes in with her abilities seemingly visually displaying mostly fire and no psionic abilities. All things aside, this character is based in psionic and cosmic energy. The fire represents moreso flare to the Phoenix moniker rather than the actual meaning of fire control, so that being the most visual for her kit instead of possible pink or psionic abilities is a bit annoying as a fan.

- Slow Fall Passive : I see alot of want for a Slow Fall and although it would be nice, I don’t think its a necessity, considering her versatile her flight is + her other abilities that also aid in mobility, but it wouldn’t be a bad add.

Pros

- Telepathic Illusion : This ability is just a 10/10 in my opinion. Its unique for her character and displays both a perfect mix of her cosmic/psionic synergy, and its just overall a great tool while playing her, especially against divers.

- Dark Ascent : One of the best flight abilities in the game. Its a movement boost, easy to use for repositioning, and adds to her abilities that help her escape.

Cons

- Cosmic Flames : This primary is good, but I feel the reward for the precision is not worth it. I understand she requires aim, I play her very often. What I don’t understand is her being a hitscan dps who requires precise aim, but does not receive rewards for said aim with good damage. I don’t get her hitbox being smaller than other hitscan characters, but also delivers little damage at range. The damage falloff would be acceptable if her healing for doing said damage kept her up, but I feel in this current state it doesn’t. I feel the healing from primary sparks or the primary itself needs to be reworked in some way for her to be in a possible value in comparison to other hitscans in game.

- Psionic Detonation : This ability is her bread and butter for sparks, but I just feel its not necessary in her kit and is really strong, it’s alot in one. It serves as a a bigger version of her Spark Expolsions, and I feel it honestly can just replace her actual Spark Explosions in size without multiple debuffs. This ability also being a stun, slow, and now a antiheal is probably the main reason adjusting her in game is so difficult for balancing purposes. I feel this could be replaced with a true telekinetic ability instead.

- Endsong Inferno + Revive Mechanic : I see so many complaints about this ability due to its damage, but I honestly have come to thr conclusion it isnt the damage lacking rather than the speed of it. If the speed of which she gets to the sky and dives was adjusted it would have a higher success rate for her. Also, I would rather prefer she had a revive to do her ultimate immediately with an added bonus than full hp. I get it acts as a revive, but it would just serve as a better gameplay experience for the ultimate exclusive revive.

- Telekinesis/Telepathy : My last and biggest issue is the lack of telekinetic abilities for her. I feel this character is great in game, but it just doesn’t feel like Jean Grey/Phoenix. Her character was clearly based as an alternate to Hela, which give the lore is nice in theory, but she has since then been surpassed by her. I feel she now has no character identity in this game whether we like her kit or not. It feels like the devs need to adjust her to fit into another niche or find her own, so she doesn’t lose viability in game.

u/alkg176 — 1 day ago

Nevermind the gala skin, the only legendary (and it must be a legendary!) skin I want is Cosmic Queen Jean 🐦‍🔥 ✨

Hair on fire, cosmic bodysuit with almost melted copperish gold embroidery, as if it was cast from molten sun.

Her ult VFX an actual dark Phoenix, almost completely black with red+purplish undertones at the edge of its silhouette, dotted with multiple stars

Also they should do everything in their power to make it not look bulky. I know its hard due to her model, she has a bit of a stronger build, but make it slick, flowing, and also no over-designing....i want it to be a exact replica of the costume from the page!

That is my wish for a (sometime in the distant) future Jean skin

u/DevilWearsPrada3 — 1 day ago
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S9.5 roadmap shows unique Legendary rarity backgrounds for both Phoenix and Cyclops. For some reason Jean’s 2nd Hellfire Gala skin was downgraded to Epic last minute.

[effacé]

u/Neo_Raider — 2 days ago

First Look at Jean’s Viridian Vogue with her husband Scott 🥺🧡

Another Hellfire Gala fit for Jean! They’re goals help

u/riskedbiscuit — 3 days ago

Jean Grey is coming home!

Jean Grey is coming home—and she’s bringing the fire.

Spinning directly out of ‘DNX,’ ‘Jean Grey’, a five-issue series by Jed MacKay and Rogê Antônio, launches in November.

The shocking conclusion of ‘DNX’ sends Jean racing back to Earth, only to find the X-Men’s world dramatically changed. The fallout she was too late to stop will ignite a new era for MacKay’s X-Men run, and it all begins here!

The Phoenix is headed to Earth. Jean Grey is aflame within. When she touches down, will she consume all she touches…or will she maintain control of the life-giving, life-taking power coursing through her?

Art: Joëlle Jones, Miguel Mercado, Nogi San

Read more: https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/jean-grey-solo-comic-book-series-jed-mackay-variant-covers-november-2026

u/Ragnbangin — 3 days ago
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Concept for a strat Phoenix kit where Jean is also playable

i wanted to try and keep as much of the original kit in my concept as possible while also expanding and adding to what i could.
Having the ability to swap between jean and phoenix i think was a missed opportunity by the devs

u/The_Fancy_Squid — 4 days ago

Ngl, I respect Netease's consistent support for Jean X Scott

Just like the other canon couples shown in Rivals, Its quite wholesome they showcased them as a consistent pairing

Though I haven't yet read several comics around the X-men to properly know their full relationship, I always heard that their relationship has been tainted due to strangling them to a love triangle with Logan to fabricate drama in X-men books.

I think Netease truly shed a positive light on their love for general Marvel fans ( like me ) very well. As I never realized how I much genuinely root them being together compared to other modern adaptations of the characters.

(It may not be intentional, But i really like how both Scott and Jean are often paired in terms of balancing and skin distribution ever since the start of S8.5)

u/Longjumping_Ad1469 — 3 days ago

Is there hope we'll ever get a skin with no orange lady behind our shoulder?

Or at least the Phoenix would change color or something... For some reason the Hood's skin can be hoodless, but we, being THE HOST, can't fucking host the floating lady inside Jean's model, she just has to awkwardly hover there all the time in every skin looking exactly the same. It's just lazy.

https://preview.redd.it/z3w7e7axgrjh1.png?width=923&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5db8352ee22a7df3d698f3ac5b79e9949ed01b2

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u/ConditionObjective43 — 4 days ago

With the MCU bringing Jean back to the forefront, her Rivals kit feels like a massive missed opportunity

With the MCU hype ramping up and >!Sadie Sink’s!< Jean Grey taking center stage, a ton of new fans are discovering the character. They're going to watch her rip apart the screen with raw telepathy and telekinesis (and maybe a bit of Phoenix), go read the comics, and then log into Marvel Rivals only to find… a generic fire mage.

What makes it so frustrating is how hard the Season 3 cinematic trailer kinda jebaited us (well...... me xD). The animation team built a lore-accurate masterpiece when we saw her fly around with the Phoenix Force, have her signature pink psionic crown flare up, pink power signature when stopping Hela's dagger, even giving a bit of phoenix force to Blade.

Sadly, the actual gameplay was a total let down. While I understand there is fundamentally nothing wrong with her kit (because it works and it is strong for several seasons), it remains.... uninspired and is just a Hela echo. Her "telekinesis" is just a generic ground-targeted explosion that stuns people.

Literally every other major Marvel game in history, from X-Men Legends and Ultimate Alliance to Marvel vs. Capcom, understood that Jean’s mind is her primary weapon, and the Phoenix fire is the power-up. Even in comics as Phoenix, this is the case. Heck, even in Marvel Cosmic Invasion, she has her TK and TP.

Instead, Rivals stripped all of that away just to give us a glorified "Fire Hela" skin.

This is the only modern iteration where she doesn't actually feel like Jean Grey or even Phoenix.

Do you think NetEase will ever cave to the pressure and give us a true Marvel Girl/Psionic variant? Are we gonna get a rework? Are we gonna get another role for her? Are they just going to give our psionic representation through team-ups? or are we permanently stuck with a fire shooter?

At this point, I don't even care anymore if she's DPS, Strat, or tank. I just want more Jean and less Phoenix. :(

TL;DR: The MCU is reminding everyone that Jean's primary weapons are Telepathy/Telekinesis, but Rivals stripped her down to a generic fire-mage Hela clone. Do you think we'll ever get more Jean in her kit?

Curious to hear what you guys think.

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u/clivextreme — 5 days ago

Legendary Phoenix 🐦‍🔥

FINALLYYYYY got Legendary Phoenix 😭🔥

This proficiency grind is actually insane, but I had to do it for mother. Been maining her since she dropped and we officially made it 🐦‍🔥

To all my fellow Phoenix mains still grinding and learning KEEP GOING. The Legendary title is too clean. And she is a great duelist. Just needs some tweaks and psionic team ups and she’s back!

Probably would’ve gotten it sooner but I’ve been maining a new support on the block who also creates sparks 👀

Who else has Legendary Phoenix already, and what level are y’all at?

u/induceddaze — 5 days ago

Storm and Phoenix mains need to unite against netease.

They played in storms face they played in Phoenix face. Phoenix gets and uninspired kit and storm gets lazy skins. Two of the strongest omega level mutant women get dragged through the dirt while Luna is on her 20th skin anniversar. #justiceforstorm #justiceforphoenix

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u/Warm_Narwhal4732 — 7 days ago