r/PickUpArtist

1. Never be direspectful, even when they fuck up. Call them out respectfully.

2. Never be arrogant, immediatle turn off

3. Dont be disrespectful talking about other girls. they will get a negative vibe

4. Never say a political side, unless it matches theirs

5. Dont give the impression you're dating alot of women

6. Dont say wierd, off the wall, or off things, conversation should feel normal and natural

7. Dont say any cringe or stupid lines

8. Dont pedestalize or give an ass kissing vibe

9. You can make sexual jokes before actually fucking, but dont be abrupt or in your face about it. should be lighthearted

10. Always have the mindset that you lead the convo,

Just a note, if you make a mistake not autoamtically over, you can easily recover it by backtracking and moving on.

And if once you're dating a girl geniunley you make a big mistake and she wants to cut you off, simply apologize and flirt and some persistence and you should be good

TL;DR: Went to the free 3-day bootcamp in London. Some of the content was genuinely useful for a free event, but that isn't my issue. The whole weekend is built to lead you to one moment-- a high-pressure close on a ~12k program, with deposits taken on the spot before you've had a chance to think. I'm writing this so anyone considering it knows exactly what's coming.

1. The bait: Owen isn't there

Most people sign up because of Owen Cook. He wasn't attending. That was only announced the day before, when everyone had already booked travel, hotels and time off. You're committed by then, so you go anyway. In hindsight that was the first sign of how carefully the whole thing is managed.

2. Three days of building you up and breaking you down

To be fair, there were good parts and real takeaways. But the structure of the weekend is the point.

Over three days the coaches slowly build a single story: what's wrong with you is bigger than you thought, and this program is the only real way to fix it. The exercises are mostly simple things that feel hard in the moment. Once you've done them, the feeling of having broken through gets tied directly to the brand.

Many people there are at a low point, some at their wits' end, and they look at the guys on stage like gods. That gap is what drives everything that happens next.

3. The close (this is the part you need to understand)

This is where it went from a seminar to something else. Every step felt rehearsed.

The pitch. Owen comes in on Zoom and makes the offer. He's extremely good at it. The room is already primed after three days, so it lands hard.

The hand raise. You're asked to raise your hand if you're interested. Low commitment, nothing signed. But you've now publicly identified yourself.

The separation. Everyone who raised a hand is asked to go and stand at the back of the room or outside. You're now physically removed from the people who didn't raise their hands, standing in a group of guys who all look committed.

The manufactured rush. Suddenly there's urgency: we're being kicked out by the hotel, we need to wrap this up now. I can't prove it was staged, but the timing was very convenient.

The QR codes. Staff are waiting with QR codes already set up. No time to think it over, look things up, or talk to anyone. You scan, pay a minimum £500 deposit, and a payment plan is set up for the rest.

The contract. Before you've really processed it, you've signed a roughly 10-page contract. Nobody is reading 10 pages standing in a hallway while being told the room is closing.

From start to finish it took minutes. My estimate is at least 50 people signed up for the ~12k program. Afterwards, at least half of the people I spoke to were in the same headspace as me: what just happened?

Honestly, I have to give credit for how well they've refined it. Every step is designed to remove a chance to pause: commit a little, isolate the group, apply time pressure, and remove friction from paying. It's a very well-practised sales operation.

4. The "success stories" in the room

Some people at the event were past bootcamp attendees talking about how great it was. Watch the dynamic. These are often the guys who are being considered for the team, or at least they think they are. They're the most eager to impress the leaders, both at the event and in the group chat. Their enthusiasm is real, but it isn't neutral.

5. Does anyone actually get results?

Probably, yes. But I'd argue that's mostly down to them. Anyone who drops thousands and turns up to a bootcamp is already desperate to change. That motivation would get results with or without having to pay 12k. This is a huge amount for the average person to pay regardless of how they frame it (burn the bridges) . I even heard at one point about using credit loans to pay.

6. Why I'm posting

Maybe I'm biased by my own experience. Maybe I'm being harsh. But if you're going to one of these free events:

Decide your budget before you walk in, and stick to it.

Don't raise your hand "just to hear more." That's the first step of the close.

If you feel urgency, that's the moment to walk away. A real opportunity will still be there tomorrow.

Never sign a contract you haven't read. Check your cooling-off rights. In the UK/EU you may have cancellation rights depending on how and where the contract was sold.

Has anyone else been through this? Did you sign up, and did you regret it or think it was worth it? I'd really like to hear both sides.